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morphy (12/12/2007)
Of interesting note, the Libertarian Party is officially endorsing Ron Paul. They are urging him to run as a Libertarian instead, but nonetheless calling for all LP members to vote for him, regardless of his party affilliation. I'll let them explain why:

http://www.lp.org/fp/article_546.shtml

Trust me, in our small Watergate office, the words "Ron Paul" echo throughout the hallways all day, every day, as we respond to the many questions posed by passionate Libertarians who call, e-mail, mail and visit our office.

If you think about it, this appears to put us in a tough position. We're the Libertarian Party, and Ron Paul is seeking the Republican presidential nomination. It's not our issue, right?

A party loyalist would not dare say something positive about a member of another party...right? Blind partisan loyalty is why Republicans and Democrats are so powerful...right?

No!

Partisanship is why they are corrupt. The Republican and Democratic parties exist to maintain their own power...that's about it.

We exist for liberty.

The official resolution is here:

http://www.lp.org/media/article_545.shtml

SWEET! Well he definitely has this vote!

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Twinblade (12/12/2007)
If Ron Paul does not get elected, watch and see....WW3 will happen and a draft will happen, looks like im going to prison.

If there were ever a legitimate war involving the US, Id be first in line to serve. But if we ever go to war with Iran, I'll either be running to canada or sitting in a jail cell.

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Twinblade (12/12/2007)
If Ron Paul does not get elected, watch and see....WW3 will happen and a draft will happen, looks like im going to prison.

If there were ever a legitimate war involving the US, Id be first in line to serve. But if we ever go to war with Iran, I'll either be running to canada or sitting in a jail cell.

WW3 would be in the middle east, Including Iran.

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morphy (12/12/2007)
Of interesting note, the Libertarian Party is officially endorsing Ron Paul. They are urging him to run as a Libertarian instead, but nonetheless calling for all LP members to vote for him, regardless of his party affilliation. I'll let them explain why:

http://www.lp.org/fp/article_546.shtml

Trust me, in our small Watergate office, the words "Ron Paul" echo throughout the hallways all day, every day, as we respond to the many questions posed by passionate Libertarians who call, e-mail, mail and visit our office.

If you think about it, this appears to put us in a tough position. We're the Libertarian Party, and Ron Paul is seeking the Republican presidential nomination. It's not our issue, right?

A party loyalist would not dare say something positive about a member of another party...right? Blind partisan loyalty is why Republicans and Democrats are so powerful...right?

No!

Partisanship is why they are corrupt. The Republican and Democratic parties exist to maintain their own power...that's about it.

We exist for liberty.

The official resolution is here:

http://www.lp.org/media/article_545.shtml

This just confirms what everybody knew. That Ron Paul is a libertarian pretending to be a republican for the exposure. He has zero shot of winning the republican nomination because he is not a republican. After he is defeated in the primaries, he will run either as an independent or a libertarian in the general election and rob votes from Clinton/Obama thus putting Huckabee in the white house. Great news!

You do realize that he is being forced to be republican right and don't get your hopes up with Huckabee, he doesn't have a chance.

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Steve_Bartkowski (12/12/2007)This just confirms what everybody knew. That Ron Paul is a libertarian pretending to be a republican for the exposure. He has zero shot of winning the republican nomination because he is not a republican. After he is defeated in the primaries, he will run either as an independent or a libertarian in the general election and rob votes from Clinton/Obama thus putting Huckabee in the white house. Great news!

The fact that he is not a republican makes him the best republican candidate. Simply because the rest are ready to sell out every individual American freedom to zealots who want to legislate the Bible into the Federal Register, all the while dumping America's treasury into more socialist vote-buying programs.

The GOP has forgotten what it means to be a conservative. It has also forgotten what a political philosophy is. The GOP's main platform is: Beat the Democrats.

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Twinblade (12/12/2007)
If Ron Paul does not get elected, watch and see....WW3 will happen and a draft will happen, looks like im going to prison.

if ron paul DOES get elected, i bet he gets assassinated within a year. these banks and defense and energy corporations aren't going to give up that easy.

as for WW3 and a draft- unless the US is actually threatened (and i'm thinking China is about the only legit threat out there, and not really even them right now), i'll be in that cell with you.

or on the beach in Belize, smoking blunts with naked-azz women with they titties hanging out.

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Ron Paul Scrubbed From Glenn Beck Poll

Neo-Con CNN hack Glenn Beck, who recently called Ron Paul supporters a potential physical threat that should be dealt with by the U.S. military, has conveniently scrubbed the popular Congressman's name from his website poll which asks who will win the Republican nomination.

Beck was obviously sick and tired of losing his own polls by a hefty majority and just decided to cherry-pick the available answers to suit his own reich-wing tastes.

Tail-enders Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo even made it in but the Congressman, whose growing support has catapulted him to the heels of the frontrunners, is nowhere to be seen.

FLASHBACK: Glenn Beck Losing His Own Poll

FLASHBACK: Complaints Flood CNN After Beck Smears Ron Paul Supporters As Terrorists

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eliyahu ha navi (12/12/2007)
President Paul is elected; first day in office:

President Paul: Alright guys, we're getting rid of the Fed!

Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid: Nope, not gonna happen.

PP: Ok, so let's dump the IRS..?

NP/HR: Sorry...

PP: Can we at least quit the UN or NAFTA or something?

NP/HR: No, Mr. President.

PP: Well there goes my platform...

:D darn that whole separation of powers thingymabob.

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What I think is great about Ron Paul is that nobody can dig up any dirt on him for a smear campaign. You would think that really any of the big name candidates on either side have got to be afraid of him at the very least stealing lots of votes for them, yet none can say anything bad about him.

He doesnt have any shady ties with lobbyists or business interests. He served honorably in WWII. He was a respected doctor. And most importantly, he has held the same views his entire career. If he supports something, you can go back 15 years and his voting record still supports that.

Even if you dont like his policies, you have got to respect that. Even Mike Huckabee, the guy who is supposed to be the morally sound christian conservative is a bit shady when it comes to his stance on quarantining AIDS patients and pardoning convicted rapists.

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Steve_Bartkowski (12/12/2007)
eliyahu ha navi (12/12/2007)
President Paul is elected; first day in office:

President Paul: Alright guys, we're getting rid of the Fed!

Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid: Nope, not gonna happen.

PP: Ok, so let's dump the IRS..?

NP/HR: Sorry...

PP: Can we at least quit the UN or NAFTA or something?

NP/HR: No, Mr. President.

PP: Well there goes my platform...

Yep, that's pretty much what would happen. He wouldn't be able to do jack...

If Ron Paul got elected, that would mean the majority of america would agree with his ideals. Meaning that eventually the current congress members would have to either give in or would get kicked out of office.

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lax32 (12/13/2007)

If Ron Paul got elected, that would mean the majority of america would agree with his ideals. Meaning that eventually the current congress members would have to either give in or would get kicked out of office.

Right, because winning the Presidency always translates to gaining a friendly Congress...

Even if it did, there aren't even 60 Senatorial candidates who would support Ron Paul's platform, and would stand any chance of being elected by 2010, or even 2014.

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morphy (12/12/2007)
Of interesting note, the Libertarian Party is officially endorsing Ron Paul. They are urging him to run as a Libertarian instead, but nonetheless calling for all LP members to vote for him, regardless of his party affilliation. I'll let them explain why:

http://www.lp.org/fp/article_546.shtml

Trust me, in our small Watergate office, the words "Ron Paul" echo throughout the hallways all day, every day, as we respond to the many questions posed by passionate Libertarians who call, e-mail, mail and visit our office.

If you think about it, this appears to put us in a tough position. We're the Libertarian Party, and Ron Paul is seeking the Republican presidential nomination. It's not our issue, right?

A party loyalist would not dare say something positive about a member of another party...right? Blind partisan loyalty is why Republicans and Democrats are so powerful...right?

No!

Partisanship is why they are corrupt. The Republican and Democratic parties exist to maintain their own power...that's about it.

We exist for liberty.

The official resolution is here:

http://www.lp.org/media/article_545.shtml

This just confirms what everybody knew. That Ron Paul is a libertarian pretending to be a republican for the exposure. He has zero shot of winning the republican nomination because he is not a republican. After he is defeated in the primaries, he will run either as an independent or a libertarian in the general election and rob votes from Clinton/Obama thus putting Huckabee in the white house. Great news!

Going into the primaries, Ron Paul will have more money on hand than any other republican candidate. That is VERY important.

I know it makes you feel powerful to regurgitate neo-con propaganda and somehow you think your part of the team but you're sadly mistaken.

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Steve_Bartkowski (12/13/2007)
Cult Leader (12/13/2007)

I know it makes you feel powerful to regurgitate neo-con propaganda and somehow you think your part of the team but you're sadly mistaken.

I know you'd like to think that I'm part of some neo-con conspiracy or that I have been spoon fed propaganda but that is simply not the case. I research, look at the issues, and make a decision on what is best for the country. For example:

Energy Independence: GOOD - One reason to support Huckabee

Smaller Government: GOOD - One reason to like Huckabee or Ron Paul

Fair Tax: GOOD - One reason to like Huckabee or Ron Paul

Finishing the job in Iraq: GOOD - One reason to support Huckabee and NOT support Ron Paul

Finish WHAT job in Iraq? Killing the rest of the residents of a 3rd world country? I'm sure you believe the Iran propaganda as well.

Most of these fake-conservative talk shows are nothing but psy-ops.

I hope you reconsider because Huckabee is no different than Bush (neither will Hillary for that matter). They all serve the same globalist agenda.

Our freedoms are eroding quickly.

I hope you enjoy World War III, the domestic Police State, and the economic collapse of our country.

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Steve_Bartkowski (12/13/2007)
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I hope you enjoy World War III, the domestic Police State, and the economic collapse of our country.

All scare tactics put out by that wacko Alex Jones and by Ron Paul supporters.

Vote for Ron Paul or the world will end! OMG!!! C'mon you're really not THAT gullible are you?

What do you make of the fact that other candidates are already talking about attacking Iran? What about the fact that the US dollar is now worth less than the canadian dollar?

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People that is all for war are nothing but brain washed Americans....I know people from the army and the only reason they joined is to protect their family's and friends, not to protect oil!

A man invents a car that runs off of water, the gov took the car and destoried it.

Ron Paul for US President 2008

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Twinblade (12/13/2007)

A man invents a car that runs off of water, the gov took the car and destoried it.

Runs off water, lol...

Just proves my point that a lot of Ron Paul supporters are Alex Jones hugging conspiracy theorist tin foil hat wearing impressionable youth.

A car can run off water as it can run off cooking oil, which the gov would not allow to happen.

But of course you will always be a Ron Paul hater and be a huckabee fanboy that supports war like a brainless American so you can have your oil. :w00t:

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Twinblade (12/13/2007)

A man invents a car that runs off of water, the gov took the car and destoried it.

Runs off water, lol...

Just proves my point that a lot of Ron Paul supporters are Alex Jones hugging conspiracy theorist tin foil hat wearing impressionable youth.

whatever makes you sleep better at night.

alex jones is a kook (half the time i think he's working FOR the CIA to plant these ridiculous stories to throw people off the scent) but he's right on a few issues.

the federal reserve and intl bankers absolutely ARE trying to destroy american sovereignty and impose a 1-world govt. look up some of david rockefeller's quotes on the subject.

the federal reserve and the IRS are two of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated on the american people.

and you're incredibly naive if you don't think car and energy companies (and therefore the US Govt, which they own) would suppress any technology that would threaten them.

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Twinblade (12/13/2007)

and you're incredibly naive if you don't think car and energy companies (and therefore the US Govt, which they own) would suppress any technology that would threaten them.

The U.S. is not the world. Why wouldn't the car companies just take their inventions over seas if they are sooooo worried about the U.S. gov? Most auto innovations come from Germany and Japan anyways.

Over in Europe they have a car that runs off compressed air.... http://www.theaircar.com/

For the record, I am a libertarian and Ron Paul supporter. I don't, however, buy into conspiracy theory's. Companies are going to do whatever makes them the most money. Clean running cars will come out as soon as car companies think it will be more profitable. Right now they are too expensive and car companies are probably getting ##### loads of kickbacks from oil companies.

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Twinblade (12/13/2007)

A man invents a car that runs off of water, the gov took the car and destoried it.

Runs off water, lol...

Just proves my point that a lot of Ron Paul supporters are Alex Jones hugging conspiracy theorist tin foil hat wearing impressionable youth.

... you do know that those exist, right? Its the basis for the hydrogen engine.

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Steve_Bartkowski (12/13/2007)
Cult Leader (12/13/2007)

I hope you enjoy World War III, the domestic Police State, and the economic collapse of our country.

All scare tactics put out by that wacko Alex Jones and by Ron Paul supporters.

Vote for Ron Paul or the world will end! OMG!!! C'mon you're really not THAT gullible are you?

Gullible how? What specifically are you talking about?

The North American Union is REAL.

The dollar collapse is REAL.

The CFR is REAL.

The NAFTA Super Highway is REAL

Habeas Corpus is gone

Mercury in flu vaccines is REAL.

The monopolistic practices of the privately owned Federal Reserve is REAL.

The Patriot Act condones secret arrests and many other anti-American sentiments.

Oh, and the traitors ALMOST got a complete amnesty pushed through Congress and I'm sure they will try again if the She-Devil, the Mob Boss is elected, or Huckabee for that matter because he supports the invaders.

AND if we get aggressive with Iran, that means war with China AND Russia!

Again, I say to you, what specifically are talking about? I know its easy to dismiss things that are too scary for you to rationalize.

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