jidady Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 "But positioned to land a quarterback high in the draft next April, even Petrino wasn't sure that his former quarterback, Louisville's Brian Brohm, was worthy of a top ten pick. And few teams have Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan rated that highly right now, either.When asked whether they thought Cleveland's Derek Anderson was worthy of using the top five pick (plus a third-rounder) to help enhance Petrino's confidence in the club's personnel, the Falcons didn't believe the QB was worth such a package." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Derek Anderson ISN'T worth a top 5 pick... let alone a top 5 pick plus more. He's in the midst of his only good season thus far... he has not proven any measure of long term consistency to this point and is aided by the fact that Cleveland has done some MAJOR work on the o-line.Brohm isn't worth a top 10 pick... he MIGHT have last year, but he is a classic case of the ill effects that returning for a senior season can have on a high profile QB.With Petrino gone, I think the likelihood of us drafting a QB in the 1st just went down tremendously. Hopefully we take Glenn Dorsey, DMac, Sedrick Ellis, or reach a little for Ryan Clady (provided the others are gone and no trade down is possible). Clady is rated almost as highly as Jake Long and projects much better to LT than Long does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 jidady (12/11/2007)"But positioned to land a quarterback high in the draft next April, even Petrino wasn't sure that his former quarterback, Louisville's Brian Brohm, was worthy of a top ten pick. And few teams have Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan rated that highly right now, either.When asked whether they thought Cleveland's Derek Anderson was worthy of using the top five pick (plus a third-rounder) to help enhance Petrino's confidence in the club's personnel, the Falcons didn't believe the QB was worth such a package." I tell ya what , I would love to get Derek Anderson and then hire their O# Cor. as Coach that dude has done a fantastic job this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Carter (12/11/2007)Brohm isn't worth a top 10 pick... he MIGHT have last year, but he is a classic case of the ill effects that returning for a senior season can have on a high profile QB.OK...so he was worth a top 10 last year, but not now?He DESTROYED his statistics from last season, not to mention played his irst full season w/o getting knicked up. And for that you think his value has dropped?Please elaborate for me. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 1989fan (12/11/2007)OK...so he was worth a top 10 last year, but not now?He DESTROYED his statistics from last season, not to mention played his irst full season w/o getting knicked up. And for that you think his value has dropped?Please elaborate for me. :w00t::laugh:Don't argue it to me, dude... I'm not the one who sets the value of prospects. Brohm is still considered a top QB prospect, but his stock is without a doubt lower now than it was at this point last year.I know his stats are a lot better and he played a full season. His value has still dropped... go look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 grendel (12/11/2007)I still think Brohm is worth a top 10 pick, and I still think we're going to be in the market, no matter who our new coach is. We need a QB. We don't have a starter-quality QB on the roster, and there's not going to be any out there as UFA's.Oh I definitely think we'll be in the market for a QB... we need one bad. But given that the absolute biggest draw for Brohm to become a Falcon was that Petrino would bring him in to operate his system at the pro level... I think the biggest reason for why Brohm was so attractive has just walked out the door. He's no longer that safe pick for us.We may still take him... but I find it much much less likely unless we trade down or trade back into the 1st. When it comes to moving on in the 1st; Seattle could be looking to take either a QB or a RB later on, for one... as could the Vikings, Lions, Bears, and Panthers.There is absolutely no guarantee that Brian Brohm slips if Atlanta doesn't take him. He is a very good prospect with excellent stats and a great college career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6773a Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Even if Cleveland were willing to trade Derek Anderson, which I don't think they will, their price is going to be astronomical! They will more than we got for Matt Schaub. That is fine for a team that is only missing a few pieces and really needs a QB, such as Chicago. But, our Falcons have so many holes to fill that it does not make a trade logical. Granted, we have QB issues, but we also have holes all over the place! Just say no to college coaches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveboogie2 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 1989fan (12/11/2007)Carter (12/11/2007)Brohm isn't worth a top 10 pick... he MIGHT have last year, but he is a classic case of the ill effects that returning for a senior season can have on a high profile QB.OK...so he was worth a top 10 last year, but not now?He DESTROYED his statistics from last season, not to mention played his irst full season w/o getting knicked up. And for that you think his value has dropped?Please elaborate for me. :w00t:It's not that difficult to figure out.12-1vs.6-6It's all about winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 "It's not that difficult to figure out.12-1vs.6-6It's all about winning..."Funny, I could have sworn Vanderbilt went 5-6 in Jay Cutler's final season yet he went #11 overall. Why, it's almost as if the Broncos examined the player's individual skills rather than the team's record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I still think Brohm is worth a top 10 pick, and I still think we're going to be in the market, no matter who our new coach is. We need a QB. We don't have a starter-quality QB on the roster, and there's not going to be any out there as UFA's.---True statement. Whether its Brohm, woodson or Ryan & maybe Brennan (if he does well against UGA), we are still in the market for a stud young QB in this draft. Got to be. As you stated we don't have one and the UFA market is depleted. It would cost a first and third at the least to pry Anderson--and he's a crap shoot after only one good year under his belt.It'll be tough to pass on QB if McFadden is on the board, but it is easier to find a quality FA rb than it is a qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Carter (12/11/2007)Derek Anderson ISN'T worth a top 5 pick... let alone a top 5 pick plus more. He's in the midst of his only good season thus far... he has not proven any measure of long term consistency to this point and is aided by the fact that Cleveland has done some MAJOR work on the o-line.Brohm isn't worth a top 10 pick... he MIGHT have last year, but he is a classic case of the ill effects that returning for a senior season can have on a high profile QB.With Petrino gone, I think the likelihood of us drafting a QB in the 1st just went down tremendously. Hopefully we take Glenn Dorsey, DMac, Sedrick Ellis, or reach a little for Ryan Clady (provided the others are gone and no trade down is possible). Clady is rated almost as highly as Jake Long and projects much better to LT than Long does.perfect post. i agree 100% on anderson, 100% on brohm (maybe a top 15 pick, but not a great value between 5-10 imo.) and i would love any of those 4 of dorsey, dmac, ellis or clady. and i 100% agree about him being the better LT prospect than long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 jidady (12/12/2007)"It's not that difficult to figure out.12-1vs.6-6It's all about winning..."Funny, I could have sworn Vanderbilt went 5-6 in Jay Cutler's final season yet he went #11 overall. Why, it's almost as if the Broncos examined the player's individual skills rather than the team's record.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 jidady (12/12/2007)"It's not that difficult to figure out.12-1vs.6-6It's all about winning..."Funny, I could have sworn Vanderbilt went 5-6 in Jay Cutler's final season yet he went #11 overall. Why, it's almost as if the Broncos examined the player's individual skills rather than the team's record.Jay Cutler was also a virtual nobody until the combine and shortly before the combine when people started getting wind of his potential. SEC people knew about him... but the SEC only stretches as far as Louisiana and Kentucky. Nobody else pays attention until we start crying about an SEC team getting snubbed by the BCS.Brian Brohm is still a very very good prospect, but it is pretty pointless to argue that his stock is as high now as it was a year ago. It simply isn't. There is a reason why Brohm came into the season a Heisman favorite and now the only people who talk about him are draft prognosticators on message boards like this trying to figure out if he's a top 15, top 20, or a slip into the 2nd round.Like Cutler, Brohm could have a big time combine and come out blazing in April... but it's too soon to tell at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busboyisback Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 LMAO @ making a player's draft status about the team's win-loss record.You've got to be kidding me.It's about individual talent.Everyone knows that the Cardinals losing isn't Brohm's fault any more than GT losing was because of Calvin Johnson.With that said, I still don't think we should take a QB that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6773a Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 There have been just as many good QBs drafted in the 2nd round or later as ther have been in the 1st round.Joe MontanaTony RomoBrett FavreTom BradyKurt WarnerDerek AndersonRich GannonThose are just a few that come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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