canesftballfan 6 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 he will improve as the years go on. mora took us to the champ game then 7-9....the bright side this year is that coach p will find out who wants to improve and whos here to just to get a check. as long as the wins keep improving hes improving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
domeOFpain 789 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 We can ony hope... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 when you only win 3 games and have a top 5 draft pick it's hard not to improve. the question is whether or not BP will get us to a NFCCG like Mora did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red2play 150 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 joremari (12/9/2007)when you only win 3 games and have a top 5 draft pick it's hard not to improve. the question is whether or not BP will get us to a NFCCG like Mora did.You mean like Reeves did. Because after Mora installed his system, we went NOWHERE with the equivalent of a Micheal Jordan in the form of YKW at Qb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ebonymonk 91 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 domeOFpain (12/9/2007)We can ony hope...You got that right, it's way too hard to assume what this team will do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,068 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 red2play (12/9/2007)joremari (12/9/2007)when you only win 3 games and have a top 5 draft pick it's hard not to improve. the question is whether or not BP will get us to a NFCCG like Mora did.You mean like Reeves did. Because after Mora installed his system, we went NOWHERE with the equivalent of a Micheal Jordan in the form of YKW at Qb.we had a lot of reeves players, but it WAS Mora's system that got us.Reeves system got us 5 losing seasons out of 7, Mora's had 1 out of 3.I have to wonder If we do win next year will people say it was Mora's team that Petrino won with?we re going to see some new faces next year at some positions, but the real core players on the tam will be the guys brought in my Mora. Hall, Abe, Boley, Norwood,White, Clabo, ( he will be the starting RT next year) among others will be here that were drafted/signed/traded for by Mora and company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLBrave 3,589 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 falconsd56 (12/9/2007)red2play (12/9/2007)joremari (12/9/2007)when you only win 3 games and have a top 5 draft pick it's hard not to improve. the question is whether or not BP will get us to a NFCCG like Mora did.You mean like Reeves did. Because after Mora installed his system, we went NOWHERE with the equivalent of a Micheal Jordan in the form of YKW at Qb.we had a lot of reeves players, but it WAS Mora's system that got us.Reeves system got us 5 losing seasons out of 7, Mora's had 1 out of 3.I have to wonder If we do win next year will people say it was Mora's team that Petrino won with?we re going to see some new faces next year at some positions, but the real core players on the tam will be the guys brought in my Mora. Hall, Abe, Boley, Norwood,White, Clabo, ( he will be the starting RT next year) among others will be here that were drafted/signed/traded for by Mora and company.We've already seen much of the Mora crew get tossed out of here (Grady, Webster, Reese, Rossum), so I really doubt you could call it Mora's team after 2 offseasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falken 6,273 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 we had a lot of reeves players, but it WAS Mora's system that got us.Mora had a system? Yea, right.Mora's system was laying it all on Vick's shoulders and sitting on the sideline sniffing amnia caps. He came here with a degree in defense and STRUGGLED. Jim Mora was nothing more than a motivator that had TOO much faith in an inept offensive coordinator.Don't get me wrong, bringing in Alex Gibbs was a brilliant idea that could have paid great dividends with the right offensive coordinator. Implementing the zone blocking and WCO could have been championship football.....only that garbage that Knapp put on the field was far from a WCO. The WCO is all about timing patterns and precise routes by WR's. Knapp's offense was more about having a WR run to a spot and stop......5 yards from the next WR leaving all WR's and defenders within arm's reach of one another. At least we have a coach now that actually COACHES. He's a PROVEN X's and O's guy who is ALWAYS in the film room studying and breaking down film. This franchise may never have back to back winning seasons with it's fickle fan base. Teams are built, from the coaching staff to the players, from the ground up. Give the guy a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
consistentfalcon 48 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 You got that right, it's way too hard to assume what this team will do. its best to assume they will lose because thats what they do best, this is there 30th losing season out of 41 yrs, really a no brainer:w00t::w00t: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
consistentfalcon 48 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Mora had a system? Yea, right.Mora's system was laying it all on Vick's shoulders and sitting on the sideline sniffing amnia caps. He came here with a degree in defense and STRUGGLED. Jim Mora was nothing more than a motivator that had TOO much faith in an inept offensive coordinator.Don't get me wrong, bringing in Alex Gibbs was a brilliant idea that could have paid great dividends with the right offensive coordinator. Implementing the zone blocking and WCO could have been championship football.....only that garbage that Knapp put on the field was far from a WCO. The WCO is all about timing patterns and precise routes by WR's. Knapp's offense was more about having a WR run to a spot and stop......5 yards from the next WR leaving all WR's and defenders within arm's reach of one another. At least we have a coach now that actually COACHES. He's a PROVEN X's and O's guy who is ALWAYS in the film room studying and breaking down film. This franchise may never have back to back winning seasons with it's fickle fan base. Teams are built, from the coaching staff to the players, from the ground up. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Blank seemed to think that mora had what it takes to make this a championship team:w00t::w00t: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
consistentfalcon 48 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 he will improve as the years go on. mora took us to the champ game then 7-9....the bright side this year is that coach p will find out who wants to improve and whos here to just to get a check. as long as the wins keep improving hes improving-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------this thread should be only started after he shows improvement, its all speculation right now, like a bunch of hopeless want a be's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mojo Risin 27 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 consistentfalcon (12/9/2007)this thread should be only started after he shows improvement, its all speculation right now, like a bunch of hopeless want a be's"Want TO be's" genius. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
busboyisback 6 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 canesftballfan (12/9/2007)he will improve as the years go on. mora took us to the champ game then 7-9....the bright side this year is that coach p will find out who wants to improve and whos here to just to get a check. as long as the wins keep improving hes improving.Depends on what we do this off-seasonThis draft and FA will make or break this team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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