d34ng3l021 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 If we trade down to the 10-15 range, I think we should look really hard at Kenny Phillips. He can come in and replace Lawyer Milloy at SS and our secondary will never look back. He has no weakness in his game...sure tackler...great in coverage. We wont be giving up so many **** long plays anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 JMO, but Kenny Phillips will go top 10 once he works out and interviews. He is a more complete talent than Landry and Huff in recent years, with A+ character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange_Crush Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Great prospect, horrible pick for us. Crocker has played well this season and I would like for him to be resigned. IF, very big IF, Jimmy becomes our FS, then Crocker has earned the right to take over at SS. He's a very good tackler so bringing him up in the box shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Storms Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 With how bad we've had it with injuries (and ineffectiveness of a certain rookie) on the defensive line, if we go defense, it has got to be one of the elite DT's in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I was hoping to avoid this discussion in 2008, but I despise the idea of giving top 10 money to a safety in almost every instance. I was against a Landry draft pick last year, and I like him quite a bit better than Phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d34ng3l021 Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 I think safety is a way underrated position, and with the passing offenses dominating, we need an elite safety. Look at the last few SB winners. Troy Polamalu. Bob Sanders. Rodney Harrison. It is definetly an up coming positons, and our safeties cant cover for #####. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 There are too many other needs to be taking a safety in round 1. QB, OT, RB, DT, MLB, the list goes on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 If we are lucky enough to trade down, I would definitely support drafting Phillips. However, it is very likely that Phillips will be a top ten draft choice. At this moment, his status is dragged down by a very mediocre Hurricane team. Once he interviews and performs at the Combine, his status will shoot upwards. I want Phillips to wear the black and red because I think that Hall will be traded. Phillips has the talent, intelligence and study habits to match Ed Reed's career. We could eventually end up with Stone and Phillips as our Safeties...playing behind Irons and Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 jidady (12/8/2007)I was hoping to avoid this discussion in 2008, but I despise the idea of giving top 10 money to a safety in almost every instance. I was against a Landry draft pick last year, and I like him quite a bit better than Phillips.I agree w that. I would go nuts knowing we had a safety that never took an NFL snap making 30-40M dollars. That is likely what Bob Sanders will get.Landry's deal is 42M I think...that is nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedefensedefense Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 If we have another very bad season like this one(god i hope not!!), maybe 2009 is the year to replace Milloy... Even if we dont have a high 1st round pick, it should be a good class in 2009...Hopefully Williams proves he can hold down the free safety position and we can afford to pick up a guy like Taylor Mays from USC in the 2009 draft... A 6-4, 225-pound safety who runs a 4.3:w00t:I agree that safety is an up and coming position, and more and more are being taken in the draft at early stages. I wonder if the Redskins were onto something? Sean Taylor taken@ 5, and LaRon Landry taken@ 6... Maybe its the cheaper way to go in the long run, draft excellent safeties and 2nd round CB's like Smoot(although they drafted Rogers in round 1 also) that wont demand $70-100M contracts 5 years after theyre drafted...To be honest, i would love to have Phillips on this team, but the only way i see it happening is if DeAngelo Hall is traded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 defensedefensedefense (12/8/2007)If we have another very bad season like this one(god i hope not!!), maybe 2009 is the year to replace Milloy... Even if we dont have a high 1st round pick, it should be a good class in 2009...Hopefully Williams proves he can hold down the free safety position and we can afford to pick up a guy like Taylor Mays from USC in the 2009 draft... A 6-4, 225-pound safety who runs a 4.3:w00t:I agree that safety is an up and coming position, and more and more are being taken in the draft at early stages. I wonder if the Redskins were onto something? Sean Taylor taken@ 5, and LaRon Landry taken@ 6... Maybe its the cheaper way to go in the long run, draft excellent safeties and 2nd round CB's like Smoot(although they drafted Rogers in round 1 also) that wont demand $70-100M contracts 5 years after theyre drafted...To be honest, i would love to have Phillips on this team, but the only way i see it happening is if DeAngelo Hall is traded...Agree. Signing Hall and drafting Phillips would not be the wisest way to allocate cap space. However, if Hall is traded, we would likely get a mid first rounder for him. We could draft anyone we want with our early first rounder. Then, we could trade Hall, as long as Phillips remained on the board. The beauty of the possible Hall trade is that we don't have to trade him. I believe that he is signed through 2008, so we will still have him next season, if we can't acquire Phillips.As far as comparing Landry to Phillips......they are very different Safeties. Landry is a big hitter that has the speed to cover. He can be beaten by quicker WR's, but he can handle most of them. Phillips is a Safety that covers more ground with greater speed. He may not create bone-jarring hits, but he is an excellent tackler. Both players are going to have very good careers. I prefer Phillips because I think that he will better cover for the weaknesses of our CB's. He would be like having a third CB out there on every down. One final word: His coaches compare him favorably to Ed Reed. I don't have the link readily available, but I will try to find the quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyfalcon Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Washington may move up to get Phillips since they lost Sean Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 this is a hard one....crocker had shown he can play SS....but is that worth passing on a Adrian Wilson...because thats who kenny phillips is.........we all see what a all-pro safety can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblade Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 The skins will probably draft Phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 i agree, if the skins dont have a shot at vernon gholston, i think they snatch up phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Storms Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 If we have the money and Sanders becomes available in free agency, by all means go after him. But there are plenty of talented, highly drafted safeties that, in the end, are just stiff cornerbacks that can't handle receivers one-on-one and are not worth big contracts, and I would not want to risk our top pick on a safety that is not a gurantee when we have so many other needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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