fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 With the cap situation being a very large consideration for the team, they really need to build from the ground up this time. If they start with the top floor, there will be no structure to hold it up. They need to start with the offensive line and pick up a big running back before taking a QB.If they take a 1st rounder and give him the large contract, the team will have a difficult time building around him due to cap concerns. Taking a quarterback in round 2 or later will be less costly and there will still be "value" picks available. I would really like to see the next high paid Falcons quarterback earn his high dollar contract as an Atlanta Falcon instead of getting the contract based on speculation that he will perform in the NFL as he did in college. Let's face it, a lot of quarterbacks that do very well in college just never make it in the NFL. I hope the team don't gamble this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlfalcon2184 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yea, I'm hoping we wait too. I think most likely we will. It's gonna cost too much for a QB at were we will be drafting, and honestly none of them are worth a top 5 pick at this point. There's too much depth at QB in this draft to validate taking one so high, especially considering we have other needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fideltom Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Honestly, Brohm is worth it he really is he has adequate arm strength, good acuracy, can move in the pocket, a brilliant football IQ and knows this system he is worth it look at Beck in Miami and Croyle in KC both arent doin paticulary well and Russell at the raiders impressed me when he finally got to play, fsecond round QB are in the second round for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 fideltom (12/6/2007), fsecond round QB are in the second round for a reason.You do know that Joey Harrington was the third pick overall the year he came out and one of the top prospects...right? He really lived up to that hype...Hype is really all that any of the projected 1st round quarterbacks have going for them. There is not one quarterback coming out in the 1st next spring that is worth the money...not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fideltom Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yes i know where Joey was drafted, but you can point to all the examples you like its how people perform in college with the tools around them and the teams they play and Brohm has looked in impressive and very consistent for the last 4 years he is worth it and we will take him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers/Dawgs6481 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Brohm is worth the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 Maybe...maybe not.One thing about BP is no one can predict what he might do in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers/Dawgs6481 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 fansince78 (12/6/2007)Maybe...maybe not.One thing about BP is no one can predict what he might do in the draft.He's already told Brohm they're targeting him.It makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-nor Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Well since we cant run the football and we cant protect the Qb. i dont see where getting a QB in the first round would make any sense for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers/Dawgs6481 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 fin-nor (12/6/2007)Well since we cant run the football and we cant protect the Qb. i dont see where getting a QB in the first round would make any sense for this team.It's the most pressing need on the team along w/OL. That's where it makes sense.We draft QB in the 1st and OL in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-nor Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hand off to Warric Dunn up the middle for no gain.. But yeah lets take @ QB in the first round. I know we need a QB but NONE of them are worth a first round pick. More than one of the top 5 qbs in this draft will be there later trust me. RB and O line should be top priority jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers/Dawgs6481 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 fin-nor (12/6/2007)Hand off to Warric Dunn up the middle for no gain.. But yeah lets take @ QB in the first round. I know we need a QB but NONE of them are worth a first round pick. More than one of the top 5 qbs in this draft will be there later trust me. RB and O line should be top priority jmoRB is not the top priority, QB and OL is the top-priority. And yes, Brohm is worth a first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-nor Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 So Brohm would be a a franchise QB that we could build a team around?If we go that way you can expect a long losing season again for the next few years. Mcfadden would make an impact right away. Either way, this team needs help in all those areas so which ever way they go its gonna fill a need. I just dont see how getting Brohm in the first round will help this team anymore than getting Mcfadden in the first brohm or dixon in the second and some o line via freeagency in the 2nd round and beyond... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 One thing about BP is no one can predict what he might do in the draft.He's already told Brohm they're targeting him.He has said that to a player before that didn't get drafted by the Falcons. Remember that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 fansince78 (12/6/2007)With the cap situation being a very large consideration for the team, they really need to build from the ground up this time. If they start with the top floor, there will be no structure to hold it up. They need to start with the offensive line and pick up a big running back before taking a QB.If they take a 1st rounder and give him the large contract, the team will have a difficult time building around him due to cap concerns. Taking a quarterback in round 2 or later will be less costly and there will still be "value" picks available. I would really like to see the next high paid Falcons quarterback earn his high dollar contract as an Atlanta Falcon instead of getting the contract based on speculation that he will perform in the NFL as he did in college. Let's face it, a lot of quarterbacks that do very well in college just never make it in the NFL. I hope the team don't gamble this draft.:laugh: wth.....A first round pick is going to cost a lot no matter what position you pick and lots of players at every position don't do as well in the pros as they did in college..and who the **** thinks RB is a ground up position....:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 Halsey,Which player gets a bigger contract...An offensive lineman picked 5th overall, or a quarterback picked in that spot?Do the Falcons need a quarterback who rear end will see more of the turf than his eyes will see a receiver?Can a big running back block in blitz situations better than a small running back?How many first round quarterbacks are on the Falcons team today?Why am I wasting my time?:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 Which is short term thinking?A-Someone who wants a quarterback who has all the hype of being great in college. They think that he will make the difference even though he will spend most of his time on the field picking his ### up off the ground.B-Someone who wants to put the pieces in place that will allow a rookie to learn to play without getting hit almost every play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 fansince78 (12/6/2007)Halsey,Which player gets a bigger contract...An offensive lineman picked 5th overall, or a quarterback picked in that spot?:laugh: You fantasy footballers...That depends on the team and the player. Regardless a first round pick costs a lot and is a risk. and there's a reason QB's are the highest paid position in football... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 So you don't think an offensive lineman who surrenders one sack in a season is worth anything?A quarterback gets far too much credit when a team is winning and far too much blame when a team loses. A team consists of more than a quarterback and a successful team puts the pieces in place that allow the quarterback to do his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think Brohm will be there. I hope we still take Long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookhaven Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 fansince78 (12/6/2007)If they take a 1st rounder and give him the large contract, the team will have a difficult time building around him due to cap concerns.Are you suggesting the Falcons skip their 1st round pick? Look at what last year's top guys did:Pick 1: Jamarcus Russell (QB) signed a six year, 61 million dollar contract. - 10Pick 2: Calvin Johnson (WR) signed a six year, 55.5 million dollar contract. - 9.1Pick 3: Joe Thomas (OT) signed a five year, 42.5 million dollar contract. - 7Pick 4: Gaines Admans (DE) signed a six year, 46 million dollar contract. - 7.6Pick 5: Levi Brown (OT) signed a six year, 62 million dollar contract. - 10Pick 6: Laron Landry (SS) signed a five year, 41.5 million dollar contract. - 8Pick 7: Adrian Peterson (RB) signed a five year, 40.5 million dollar contract. - 8 Pick 8: Jamaal Anderson (DE) signed a five year, 31 million dollar contract. - 6The last number is the total divided by the year.If you pick in the top 10, you have to give somebody (at some position) a big contract. It has less to do with the position than with where they are picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 first round pick either pat white or mcfadden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted December 7, 2007 Author Share Posted December 7, 2007 #34 (12/6/2007)first round pick either pat white or mcfaddenI'll stick with Jake Long in the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Storms Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I'd take the thing with Long about only giving up one sack in perspective. Marcus McNeill was talked down throughout the offseason, even though he boasted that he did not give up a sack all season, because scouts saw flaws in his technique and worried about his back condition. He dropped to the second round and played like an All-Pro in his rookie season. He had flaws in his technique, yes, but that made people look past his stunning success in the SEC. However, on the other hand, Jake Long plays in a far weaker conference and did not perform well at all in critical games such as against Ohio State, and he could have given up a lot more than one sack, in that game and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconMama Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Well someone is gonna get the money so why not use it on a big need being QB or Oline. Now way in **** is a RB a bigger need than Oline or QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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