JDaveG 42,505 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 20 min. run yesterday evening. Nice and slow, tomorrow is race day. BIRDLAND 2.0, PeytonMannings Forehead, paprika neck and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I'm the Answer 2 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I tend to do 2 to 3 hours of cardio a dayi also lift weights for an hour a day i do individual days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atl_sportjunkie 0 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Anybody know a good routine to start for toning up? I have alot of strength, but I want to tone up what I have... Legs are fine, I'm toning them nicely. Mainly the arms and stomach area I'm looking to tone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,505 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 It sounds like you already have good muscle tone, and you need to burn some fat to reveal it. I'd do complexes (circuits). Join a local boot camp or kickboxing class or something similar.The other route would be heavy cardio, but you risk burning muscle with fat if you aren't very careful on intake/output.The key is to create a mild calorie deficit so your body burns fat instead of retaining food that gets stored as fat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,505 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Ran the Hillgrove High School Holiday Classic in 30:38 (PR). Goal was 30 min., so I fell short, but it was a well run race for me.AWFUL hilly course, but the last 1/4 mile or so was a nice gradual downhill.They did not announce placement in my age group, but I missed 1st by 3 min. give or take a few seconds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atl_sportjunkie 0 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Ya, one day I was at the gym, and maxed out on the squats machine.. so that was fun. But ya.. I need to get a good diet going. Not a diet diet, but more healthy, less fat, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quicksand 3 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 There's no such thing as 'tone' the way your thinking it is, the tone look is a function of how much fat is covering your muscles. The only way to lose weight is by creating a caloric deficit, the easiest way of doing this isn't focusing on exercise but rather on changing your diet, exercise is still important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,505 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Low fat, high fat and low carb, high carb doesn't matter except that low fat, low carb will tend to be lower CALORIE (which is what you want). A few rules to think about:Avoid most carbs other than what you get in vegetables except pre-workout or post-workout (immediately pre- or post-).Cut out any beverages with more than zero calories (switch to water and diet soda, no sweet tea, no alcohol, minimal coffee). If you drink coffee, for goodness sake don't put any cream or sugar in it.Cut out refined sugars and flours. Whole grain bread, brown or wild rice, sweet potatoes, etc. If it's a white carb, don't eat it.Make sure you get enough protein.When you do eat carbs pre- and post-workout, try to make them fruits or whole grain breads/muffins/etc.Eat several smaller meals during the day, ALWAYS eat breakfast, and always eat frequently. You should be eating constantly enough that it is a pain in the butt to stop what you are doing and go get some food.Then make sure to do your normal training routine. You should see steady results that you will notice within a month or so. Keep at it until your bodyfat percentage is where you want it, then you can slowly add some calories to maintain (be VERY careful about this -- it's a good way to end up looking "soft" again, and it usually doesn't take as long to gain the fat as it does to lose it). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidWest Falcon 26 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Since I finished my football career up at last year I told my self I was going to take a break for a while. Well I took and break........a long, drunken, beer chugging, break :P Well I have a gut and I'm going to stop it in it's tracks!!!!! I've been running at least a mile a day and doing push ups and sit ups for the last week and a half. I'm really dedicated to this and plan on hitting the weight really soon:D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,505 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Good deal, MidWest Falcon. I waited until I was 34 to start exercising again. It gets harder to start and progress the longer you wait Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atl_sportjunkie 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Part of my thoughts on tone is getting my muscles tighter. But it's also shrinking to fat around them... The biggest guilty pleasure I drink right now is Sweet-T, and Blue Demon energy, lol.Once I get my work routine set in a normal motion, I'll start getting back into the gym Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconskill 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 So would you guys recommend an elliptical or a treadmill for home use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ramen 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 The mods were going to pin this thread, but the "pin" function is broken on the new boards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ki45toryu 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It will be a minute before this board is fully operational. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kicker23 19 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Treadmill. Elipticals are a good non-impact exercise and all, but they don't really simulate anything you'd actually do in real life. The idea, in my opinion, is to use the treadmil when you can't be outside running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidWest Falcon 26 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Thanks JDave, I always told myself I would not let myself get fat. Playing football in college is a year long job. We only had 4 weeks off (christmas). So when it was over I took a little break and man it caught up to me fast! Not only does running and working out get me in shape but it helps every aspect of my life. I'm in a better mood more and it just gets me in the zone for the day BTW, BJ Penn is my favorite MMA fighter :cool: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,505 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 MWF, no problem -- AEN (I think it was) started this thread on the old board so those of us who don't take naturally to exercise can encourage each other. I pretty much use it as a training log, so y'all will hopefully see another post on Tuesday when I get back into the gym.BTW, Penn is absolutely awesome. I've trained jiu-jitsu for 2 years now, and the guy just amazes me. As lost as I feel in class, he was over halfway to a black belt 2 years in, which is unheard of.Re: treadmill v. elliptical, falconskill, I think you can go either way on it. I would buy the elliptical, but that's because I use the machine not to get out of the weather, but to save wear and tear on my knees and feet by running less. I agree that it does not -- in any shape or form -- simulate running. But it does keep your cardio base up. If you don't have problems with your knees and feet (i.e., if you're a lot younger than me :crying:), the treadmill would do a better job simulating road running, but be aware that it is STILL a lot easier than running on the road, trail or track. The machine is still doing part of the work for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconskill 0 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I did buy an elliptical.. a few days ago actually. It seemed that it would generally burn more than a treadmill. I also was given one of those Tony Little Gazelle's but I have no idea how to calculate calorie burn on it as the computer was not with it. I just compare it with walking for exercise when I input my data into my database. What I also need to learn more about is nutrition.. I have not been eating anywhere near what I should the past 5 months and have shed alot of weight. But people tell me I am doing it wrong.. But I dont see how considering my drastic loss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duckettpleaze 264 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Can we migrate the old thread?CRAP!!! How do we access the old thread? ALL my training data is there! And nowhere else!I turbo trained twice last week, not much going on though. Nice little mountain bike ride to and around "flat creek" Saturday. Cross race today. It was perfect: I did the "C's" race because it was the most convenient and a friend of mine did it. I BIFFED going into the first barrier because my pedal came OUT of the crank. (That's not supposed to happen, but after eighteen years, the bearings of my very first generation spd's sort of seized up.) Anyway, I got MY bearings, asked some folks for an allen wrench, waited for a bit, realized no one was going to bring me one. Road out to the parking lot. Used my allen wrench to put my pedal back on TIGHTLY, got back on the course, passed back about twenty folks and finished 13, which was cool because I was racing below my catagory and it would have been uncool to place AND to NOT place because I got my butt kicked. This way, I had fun, a decent result, good excuse, and didn't take anyone's prize money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HolyMoses 12,049 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Oh . . . Here I am! And I found my old friend duckettplease, too!I wonder when and why I created "RSA Linkster" . . . It's my own joke and even I don't get it! Captain28 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GEORGIAfan 18,409 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I need a workout plan that can help me lose alot of weight. especially around the abs and quads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,505 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 :laugh: at HolyMoses. The migration over was an adventure, but once you get everything set up, I think it's worth it. I miss your avatar, BTW.GEORGIAfan, you can't spot-reduce weight. You either lose or gain total weight. Same with fat - there's no way short of liposuction to just take fat out of one part of your body. You just decrease your OVERALL body fat percentage. The good news is the places you mention are the last to go. The bad news is....well, they're the last to go.I'd try to cut some calories out of your diet and try that for a few weeks and see what results you get. If you are not working out AT ALL now, the flipside is to start and give THAT a few weeks. Weigh yourself daily, but the visual cues are probably better than the scale, because you can gain muscle, lose fat, and gain weight that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidWest Falcon 26 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Bump, lets get this pinned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dday 9 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I'm going to get in on this thread this time around. I've been working hard the last 6 months but haven't been keeping to my diet, I am eating way less and have shown some gains. I've lost 2 jean sizes and am thicker than I have been in a number of years. I do have a question for anyone who might know.I've always heard that you're supposed to eat within the first hour of being awake in the morning to kick start your metabolism but I've also heard that you should do cardio on an empty stomach so you burn the stored energy not the energy in your stomach. Since I work out first thing in the morning, what should I do? Eat then workout or workout then eat? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ancient raptor 88 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I just finished 18 sessions of pulmonary rehab, so at least I can breathe again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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