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alfred e. neuman (3/5/2008)
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I am to heavy for 100 straight pullups..Which could be problem now that I think about it..

I have a hard time getting up on pull-ups..

Learn to do gymnastics kipping pull-ups first. They'll let you get your numbers up without having to do dead hangs.

Kipping pull-ups

That is against everything I have learned in the proper form text..That just looks violent!:w00t:

I will give it a try ..;)

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Hey fitness guys, whats yalls thoughts on crunches? I routinely run but i still have a beer belly and love handles and id really like to tighten that up. Are crunches a good way to fight that or will i just build muscle under fat? Like everyone else i guess, i just want to look better with my shirt off and summer is just around the way.

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Today I did shoulders..

5 sets of military presses

5 sets of barbell front presses

3 sets of dumbell latteral raises

3 sets of dumbell front raises.

I am about to go do a couple of miles of cardio..

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TerminusTiercel (3/7/2008)
Hey fitness guys, whats yalls thoughts on crunches? I routinely run but i still have a beer belly and love handles and id really like to tighten that up. Are crunches a good way to fight that or will i just build muscle under fat? Like everyone else i guess, i just want to look better with my shirt off and summer is just around the way.

You will build muscle under fat. The only way to get a flat belly/6 pack is to reduce total body fat percentage and (here's the part that stinks) in men, usually belly fat is the last to go.

You need a caloric deficit -- take in fewer than you burn. You can do this by cutting calories, increasing exercise, or both. Crunches won't really burn enough calories to matter. I'd run or do complexes, and try to shave a few calories here and there (cut out drinks with more than 0 calories and severely limit refined carbs, to start).

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1.5 hours jiu jitsu today. I did not participate in all the warmup, and I quit after 2 rolls (including 1 VERY light roll with a new young guy, which wasn't much different than drilling). Good class though. I feel okay -- clearly I'm not in shape, and clearly I'm not quite well yet, but I'll try again next week and see how it goes.

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The key to a 6 pack is to be under 23, and a professional football player.

According to Peyton Manning anyways.

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ki45toryu (3/8/2008)
The key to a 6 pack is to be under 23, and a professional football player.

According to Peyton Manning anyways.

Peyton Manning is a liar.

The key to a 6 pack is juice. Lots and lots of juice.

Don't forget the PCT. Oh, and it probably shouldn't need to be said, but don't forget to work out. Juice doesn't work on its own, you know.

(P.S., for the lurking Feds, I do NOT have a 6 pack, and I am TOTALLY kidding :P)

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JDaveG (3/8/2008)
ki45toryu (3/8/2008)
The key to a 6 pack is to be under 23, and a professional football player.

According to Peyton Manning anyways.

Peyton Manning is a liar.

The key to a 6 pack is juice. Lots and lots of juice.

Don't forget the PCT. Oh, and it probably shouldn't need to be said, but don't forget to work out. Juice doesn't work on its own, you know.

(P.S., for the lurking Feds, I do NOT have a 6 pack, and I am TOTALLY kidding :P)

Well, you just meant tomato juice right? V8 all the way

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I haven't exercised since November, and I've lost 10 lbs. I weigh exactly 170 lbs. I haven't been eating, and I drink much much more. Those of you who know my situation get it. Those of you don't, I've just been under an incredible amount of stress. But things are getting better.

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kicker23 (3/8/2008)
I haven't exercised since November, and I've lost 10 lbs. I weigh exactly 170 lbs. I haven't been eating, and I drink much much more. Those of you who know my situation get it. Those of you don't, I've just been under an incredible amount of stress. But things are getting better.

I dont know your social background...but you might want to see a doctor for that kind of weight loss. Seriously.

And you might have a myriad of nutrional deficiencies too. Go get it checked.

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Just finished Saturday scrimage with over 35 mens Indoor soccer in Loganville, AKA, Dead Men Walking. Lost 1 player to a dislocated kneecap already, so not how sure this was a good idea.

Still need bodies if anyone is interested. We have all levels of experience and fitness. All you need is 70 fee, ball and shin guards. They also have younger age groups 28-34, etc.

http://www.cscindoor.com/

Need to hit my knee with that juice Dave was talking about. And going to 0 calorie drinks to keep some weight off the knees.

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If you guys dont mind , what are you clocking in at as far as weight?

What is your height and what is your target weight?

I am 5ft -6 and weighing in at 200lbs..

I am wanting to lose about 15lbs and see if that will be a good weight for me to maintain..

Cardio has gotten so much easier lately..

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ki45toryu (3/8/2008)
Well, you just meant tomato juice right? V8 all the way

Nah, pineapple juice is the best.

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JDaveG (3/8/2008)
ki45toryu (3/8/2008)
The key to a 6 pack is to be under 23, and a professional football player.

According to Peyton Manning anyways.

Peyton Manning is a liar.

The key to a 6 pack is juice. Lots and lots of juice.

Don't forget the PCT. Oh, and it probably shouldn't need to be said, but don't forget to work out. Juice doesn't work on its own, you know.

(P.S., for the lurking Feds, I do NOT have a 6 pack, and I am TOTALLY kidding :P)

PCT?

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Riders' deaths rattle cyclists in Bay Area

By Denis C. Theriault, Joe Rodriguez and Leslie Griffy

MEDIANEWS STAFF

Article Launched: 03/11/2008 03:04:25 AM PDT

SAN JOSE -- There was no screech, no bang -- no noise to warn bicyclist Daniel Brasse what was coming around the corner Sunday morning on Stevens Canyon Road.

A Santa Clara County sheriff's patrol car was facing the wrong way on the wrong side of the road after slamming into a group of Brasse's riding partners. A deputy was walking around in a daze, later telling at least two witnesses that he had fallen asleep.

One of Brasse's friends, Matt Peterson, 30, was already dead. Another, Christopher Knapp, 20, was writhing in agony, with two limbs broken. And the third, 31-year-old Kristianna Gough, her leg severed and her head bleeding, was gasping for air.

As he pedaled toward the gruesome scene, all Brasse could hear were screams.

"Screams of pain," he said, his voice cracking.

On Monday, Brasse told his story for the first time and the Bay Area cycling community continued to grapple with the deaths of two riders, one of them an Olympic hopeful. But the one question on everyone's mind remained: How, exactly, did the deputy's white cruiser on a routine patrol come to veer across a double yellow line?

Brasse, who ran to Gough's side in the aftermath of the 10:30 a.m. crash, his first-aid training coming to life, never spoke with the deputy, 27-year-old James Council. But another cyclist, who had parked his car nearby, said the deputy was in a state of shock.

"I saw the officer pacing back and forth on the roadway. He said, 'I must have fallen asleep,'"

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said Bryce Renshaw, a San Jose chiropractor.

Kevin Valerio, who was riding behind the four riders, said that Council seemed very disoriented. Another deputy was walking Council to her squad car as onlookers gathered, he said.

"She said don't talk to those people, put her arm around him and took him to the car," Renshaw said.

Council, whose father also is a sheriff's deputy, could not be reached for comment Monday night. He was placed on paid administrative leave. California Highway Patrol investigators indicated that there was no evidence the deputy fell asleep. Council had been on duty since 6 a.m., Santa Clara County Sheriff's Sgt. Don Morrissey said.

"We are asking people to avoid speculation, and we are avoiding speculating," said CHP officer Todd Thibodeau, adding that a CHP inquiry could take 30 days.

It is unclear how fast the patrol car was going, how far it crossed the center line and where exactly on the opposite side of the road Council struck the group, Thibodeau said.

"'Why' is going to be a big question," he said.

Morrissey described Council as "very emotional" after the crash. He was sent home with a crisis team that helps fellow deputies deal with traumatic events.

Knapp, a German racer who was training with the group, is recovering from a broken arm and leg. He declined to talk Monday afternoon when reached at Stanford Hospital.

Gough's mother, Karen Sue Clarkson, had raced to the hospital when she heard about the crash, but she arrived 10 minutes too late.

Clarkson remembered a daughter who was athletic from the start and left Chabot College to pursue her dream of becoming a pro triathlete.

"The first time she saw a triathlon on TV she said, 'That's it! That's what I want to do,'" Clarkson said.

Gough switched to competitive cycling recently. Friends say she won every race and quickly caught the eye of U.S. cycling officials.

She was training for pre-Olympic time trials next weekend in Visalia. Anthony Borba, Third Pillar's captain, said she was the only woman on the team and one of the most selfless members.

Peterson rode with the rival Roaring Mouse cycling club but was still friendly enough to train with Third Pillar, Borba said. "It's a measure of a man when he has friends."

Roaring Mouse co-founder Larry Rosa remembers hearing four years ago from Peterson, who said he was looking to get into shape after he hit nearly 300 pounds. Rosa said the newcomer's outgoing personality and cycling were a perfect match.

Borba said the two teams are talking about taking part in a memorial ride Saturday.

For Brasse, surviving the crash brings a sense of luck -- and guilt. He and Knapp, the other survivor, "both feel a link for life now."

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Anybody on here familiar with the POSE method of running? 

I used to run with a failry heavy forward heal strike that was fairly inefficient.  This led to a pretty good injury around Christmas.  Since running sprints is a pretty major part of my program, I've been following the adivise of CrossFit and transitioning to the Pose method. 

It's basically a fore-foot strike with the strike happening directly underneath the body.  This eliminates the breaking effect of the forward heal strike with every stride.  Instead of pushing off to move forward, you focus on pulling up the foot as quickly as possible after the stride hits the ground.  The cadence needs to be pretty high for this style of running - 180 total foot strikes per minute.  But it's cut my 400 repeats down to under 1:15 during a hard workout. 

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I am 5'9" and 169lbs.  I was over 215lbs back in August 2007.  I was in a motorcycle accident and had some medical troubles over the past couple of years.  Was eating like crap and gained a lot of weight (highest I reached was 219lbs).  I kept lifting weights over that time, so I was strong, but chunky (benchpressed 305lbs 2 reps, but 219lbs at 5'9" was pretty chunk).  I ended up dislocating my shoulder so I couldn't lift anymore, so I decided to try to cut.

I started out running a mile a day at 10 minutes.  That was kicking my butte in the beginning because I was so out of shape (never was doing aerobic activity).  But I set goals and kept pushing myself.  I gradually increased my distance and speed.  Today I'm running 6 miles 3 days a week at 8 minutes per mile (48 minutes).  The other 3 days I'm running 2 miles at just under 7 minutes per mile and then lifting weights for 45 minutes.  Once I started doing 5 miles I started to feel it a little bit in my joints, so I switched from 6 days of distance down to 3 days to take it easier on my joints.  Instead of cutting my workout to 3 days, I filled the other 3 with weights and sprinting.  I'll tell you what, this is getting me in the best shape of my life.  My goal is to get down to about 155lbs. 

I basically lost a total of 50lbs thus far and only 2.5 lbs of muscle.  I can actually see a portion of my 6 pack, but not the entire thing.  The alternating of distance running and sprinting/lifting is working great for me.  If anybody is having trouble getting lean, I would strongly recommend this sort of routine.  For the record, I'm 29 years old and I do not use anything other than food and exercise.

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pzummo (3/11/2008)
Once I started doing 5 miles I started to feel it a little bit in my joints, so I switched from 6 days of distance down to 3 days to take it easier on my joints.  Instead of cutting my workout to 3 days, I filled the other 3 with weights and sprinting.  I'll tell you what, this is getting me in the best shape of my life.  My goal is to get down to about 155lbs. 

I basically lost a total of 50lbs thus far and only 2.5 lbs of muscle.  I can actually see a portion of my 6 pack, but not the entire thing.  The alternating of distance running and sprinting/lifting is working great for me.  If anybody is having trouble getting lean, I would strongly recommend this sort of routine.  For the record, I'm 29 years old and I do not use anything other than food and exercise.

If weightlifting combined with sprinting is what you're into, look no farther than CrossFit.  It's what we do.

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alfred e. neuman (3/11/2008)
pzummo (3/11/2008)
Once I started doing 5 miles I started to feel it a little bit in my joints, so I switched from 6 days of distance down to 3 days to take it easier on my joints.  Instead of cutting my workout to 3 days, I filled the other 3 with weights and sprinting.  I'll tell you what, this is getting me in the best shape of my life.  My goal is to get down to about 155lbs. 

I basically lost a total of 50lbs thus far and only 2.5 lbs of muscle.  I can actually see a portion of my 6 pack, but not the entire thing.  The alternating of distance running and sprinting/lifting is working great for me.  If anybody is having trouble getting lean, I would strongly recommend this sort of routine.  For the record, I'm 29 years old and I do not use anything other than food and exercise.

If weightlifting combined with sprinting is what you're into, look no farther than CrossFit.  It's what we do.

What exactly do you guys do? 

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pzummo (3/11/2008)
What exactly do you guys do? 

To put it most simply, CrossFit defines "fitness" as increased work capacity over broad time and modal domains.  That means that whether it's a 5 second max effort Deadlift or a 43 mintue 10k, and any and everything in between, you get trained for it.

To get that fitness, CrossFit prescribes a wide variety of functional movements executed at a high intensity.  The movements and the intensity are the keys to the program.  Intensity is the independent variable most often associated with results.  That's why CrossFit times the vast majority of their workouts.  You are either given a set workout and you see how fast you can get it done, or you are given a set time and you see how much work you can get done in that time.  They round out the program with ME (maximum effort) days in the big lifts and some Monstructural (single event "cardio" such as running, rowing, cycling, etc) days like running a 5k.

Here's a sampling of some of the workouts over the last few weeks:

"Tabata Something Else"

Complete 32 intervals of 20 seconds of work followed by ten seconds of rest where the first 8 intervals are pull-ups, the second 8 are push-ups, the third 8 intervals are sit-ups, and finally, the last 8 intervals are squats. There is no rest between exercises.

Post total reps from all 32 intervals to comments.

Deadlift 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps

Post loads to comments.

"Fran"

Three rounds, 21-15- and 9 reps, for time of:

95 pound Thruster

Pull-ups

Post time to comments.

Hang squat clean 3-3-3-3-3-3-3 reps

Post loads to comments.

"Eva"

Five rounds for time of:

Run 800 meters

2 pood Kettlebell swing, 30 reps

30 Pull-ups

Post time to comments.

7 rounds for time of:

95 pound Sumo-deadlift high-pull, 10 reps

10 Ring dips

Post time to comments.

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Oh, ok.  I am not looking for assistance.  I was posting what I found that works for me.  One thing I've found is that the further you push your limits, the higher your odds of sustaining an injury.  I realize there are measures you can take to minimize that risk, but the risk is still higher when you put higher amounts of physical stress on your body.  That sort of training is more suited for a young person trying to compete in sports.  I'm looking for physical fitness and I can achieve that through running and eating decent.  I found something that works for me and I'm going to stick with that. 

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