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darren mcfadden has elite speed for his position, he's elusive, has good vision. makes nice cuts, etc, but there's one thing that most people don't seem to notice when comparing him with adrian peterson. watch these 2 highlights videos and look for one difference in thier runs:

darren mcfadden

adrian peterson

adrian peterson has the elite speed and elusiveness and he's a more physical runner who's harder to bring down. most of mcfadden's great runs are about making people miss and outrunning them. i just question whether he will be as successful at making people miss and outrunning them in the pros. you could argue that peterson's physical style of running makes him a less desirable back because he's at more risk for injury, but at the top of thier game ad is a better runner.

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judging by the video, arkansas is giving him beastly holes to run through...

either mcfadden and jones are really that good, or arkansas offensive line is that good.

i'm guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle. not sure if i wanna spend the top pick on a back like that, particularly when you have a number of other pressing needs.

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mcfadden is more healthy than adrian peterson was when peterson was coming out of college. in the long run, i really believe that mcfadden will stay healthy longer than peterson will, but i think these two running backs will be compared for the rest of their careers.

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you are exactly right. this is something people seem to miss. it isn't just are they a great player, but are they a great player that fits your system and what you are trying to do?

peterson & mcfadden are two different types of running backs.

peterson type of: duece mcallister, ronnie brown, lt, bo jackson, & ricky williams (in prime).

mcfadden type of: reggie bush & warrick dunn.

mcfadden isn't another peterson, he is a another (slightly larger) warrik dunn. that isn't bad (in fact it is pretty darned good), but is that the type of back we are looking to build around for the future?

darren mcfadden has elite speed for his position, he's elusive, has good vision. makes nice cuts, etc, but there's one thing that most people don't seem to notice when comparing him with adrian peterson. watch these 2 highlights videos and look for one difference in thier runs:

darren mcfadden

adrian peterson

adrian peterson has the elite speed and elusiveness and he's a more physical runner who's harder to bring down. most of mcfadden's great runs are about making people miss and outrunning them. i just question whether he will be as successful at making people miss and outrunning them in the pros. you could argue that peterson's physical style of running makes him a less desirable back because he's at more risk for injury, but at the top of thier game ad is a better runner.

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name: darren mcfadden

college: arkansas number: 5

height: 6-2 weight: 210

position: rb pos2: kr

class/draft year: jr/2009

40 time: 4.42 40 low: 4.36 40 high: 4.49

projected round: 1 stock:

rated number 1 out of 135 rb's 1 / 1511 total

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draft scout snapshot: 14 gp; 14 gs; rush: 284-1647-5.8-14; pass: 9-7-77.8-69-3-1; rec: 11-149-13.5-1; kr: 10-262-26.2-1; all-american rb/rs, 1st team all-sec in '06. missed time w/broken toe suffered in bar fight before just season began. 11 gp; 11 gs; rush: 176-1113-6.3-11; pass: 2-1-50.0-13-0-0; rec: 14-52-3.7-0; kr: 12-348-29-0 in '05; most spectacular season by a razorback freshman running back in school history.

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opened his razorback career with the most prolific freshman season in school history. an honorable mention all-american and consensus freshman all-american, he earned first-team all-sec honors at tailback and was named the sec freshman and newcomer of the year. he shattered the ua freshman rushing record and became the first razorback rookie and just the seventh freshman in sec history to rush for 1,000 yards (1,113). he already owns five 100-yard rushing games after just one collegiate season. he has earned a reputation as one of the best tailbacks in the nation.

he is a 2006 pre-season all-america selection and is listed as the no. 4 running back in the nation by phil steele s college football and as the no. 5 running back in the nation by the sporting news. he is a pre-season candidate for the maxwell award given annually to the top collegiate football player in the nation. he showed exceptional hands in the spring as arkansas utilized him more actively in the passing game. he will be at the center of the razorback offense again in 2006 as arkansas starting tailback.

2006 season

all-american rb/rs, 1st team all-sec in '06. missed time w/broken toe suffered in bar fight before just season began. mcfadden turned in the most prolific offensive season by an individual in arkansas history on his way to winning the doak walker award and finishing as the heisman trophy runner-up. the first arkansas player to be a finalist for the nation s top individual award, mcfadden became only the seventh freshman or sophomore to finish as the runner-up after finishing behind winner troy smith of ohio state. mcfadden outpolled third-place brady quinn of notre dame by 96 points. mcfadden became the first sophomore to win the 2006 doak walker award, presented annually to the top running back in the nation. he was the first razorback to win the doak walker award and only the third player in school history to win a major national individual award (bud brooks and loyd phillips - outland trophy). mcfadden was a consensus first-team all-america selection by the associated press, american football coaches association (afca), cbs sportsline.com, si.com, walter camp foundation, rivals.com and football writers association of america (fwaa). he was named as the unanimous sec offensive player of the year by the associated press, sec coaches, the little rock touchdown club and the mobile register. mcfadden was also honored as the jim brown national running back of the year by the touchdown club of columbus (ohio) and the sec back of the year by the birmingham monday morning quarterback club. mcfadden rushed for a school-record 1,647 yards on 284 carries. his season output marked the fifth-best rushing season in sec history. he became just the third arkansas running back to produce back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons and only the second player in sec history to earn 1,000 yards as both a freshman and sophomore (herschel walker georgia). mcfadden and teammate felix jones (1,168) became only the third duo in sec history and the 38th tandem in ncaa history to rush for 1,000 yards in the same year on the same team. mcfadden led the sec and ranked 10th in the nation averaging 117.6 yards per game rushing. he rushed for 100 yards or more seven times (utah state, alabama, auburn, ulm, south carolina, tennessee and lsu), including his first 200-yard effort vs. the gamecocks with 219 yards on the ground. his seven 100-yard games in 2006 tied with cedric cobbs (2003) for the single-season school record. he became just the 12th player in school history to rush for 2,000 yards in his career was the first ua sophomore to accomplish the feat. he reached the 2,000-yard barrier on just 324 carries, which averaged out to roughly 6.2 yards per carry. mcfadden ranked second in the sec and tied for 38th in the nation with an average of 7.00 points per game. he found the end zone 16 times racking up 14 rushing touchdowns, one receiving touchdown and one kickoff return score. he earned a rushing touchdown in nine of 14 games in 2006. in addition, he passed for three touchdowns out of the wildcat formation. he finished the season 7-of-9 passing for 69 yards and three touchdowns. he hauled in 11 catches for 149 yards, including a career-long 70-yard touchdown reception. he returned 10 kickoffs for 262 yards and scored his first career kickoff return touchdown on a 92-yard run against mississippi state. mcfadden ranked first in the sec and sixth in the nation with 147.0 all-purpose yards per game. he shattered the ua record for all-purpose yards in a season by 454 yards with his total of 2,058. in fact, mcfadden topped dickey morton s previous school record of 1,604 all-purpose yards on rushing yards alone (1,647). he made a surprise start at flanker in the season opener after coming back from toe surgery on july 30. he rushed nine times for 42 yards and hauled in two passes for minus-6 yards against usc. he exploded for 184 yards and two touchdowns in the hogs' 20-0 win over utah state. he scampered for a then-career-long 72-yard touchdown run in the third quarter against the aggies. he also scored from nine yards in the second quarter. mcfadden rushed for 71 yards on 19 carries in the razorbacks' win over vanderbilt. he tallied a 20-yard gain against the commodores. mcfadden turned in his second 100-yard game of the season with a 112-yard effort on 25 carries in arkansas' 24-23 double-overtime win against no. 22 alabama. he scored his third rushing touchdown of the season on a three-yard run in the third quarter. he tallied first-down yardage on five of his carries and earned five or more yards on 10 of his 25 totes including runs of 9, 11, 12, 12 and 29 yards. his 29-yard run was the longest allowed by alabama's defense, ranked 18th nationally, in the first four games of the season. he snared a successful two-point conversion pass in the third quarter. he also made another catch for one yard against the crimson tide. mcfadden was named usa today national player of the week after exploding for 145 yards and a touchdown in the razorbacks' 27-10 road upset of no. 2 auburn. he raced 63 yards for a touchdown in the second quarter to register the first rushing touchdown against the auburn defense all season long (six games). his 100-yard effort was the third of the season and the eighth of his career. he recorded nine runs of four yards or more and six runs of six yards or more against the tigers. he tallied 71 yards and two touchdowns on only six carries in the hogs' blowout win over southeast missouri state. all of mcfadden's rushing attempts came in the first qu

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and just to make the point about him being a natural comparison with ap, here is scouts inc's mcfadden page:

"overall: mcfadden is hands-down the most talented all-around athlete in the country. his size and running skills are similar to adrian peterson (vikings; no. 7 overall in 2007), but mcfadden shows a better second gear in the open field. he also is an accomplished receiver, blocker and kickoff return specialist."

they think he's similar to peterson and they give him a higher grade of 99 as opposed to ap's 98 last year.

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one other mcfadden note: during last saturday's epic performance, he became only the second sec player to rush for 1,000+ yards in their freshman, sophomore and junior years. that club is herschel walker and him and walker is another comparison you'll hear for mcfadden in terms of overall package.

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getting mcfadden is like buying a porche when you can't even afford a small house.

he is a highly touted norwood type of back and we have nobody to block for him.

no team ever got worse by acquiring the best player in a draft or free agency. we'd be a better team both right now and for the future if we had adrian peterson on our team. run dmc is the same way. it's a non-issue at the moment, though, since it doesn't appear we'll be picking high enough to draft him.

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one other mcfadden note: during last saturday's epic performance, he became only the second sec player to rush for 1,000+ yards in their freshman, sophomore and junior years. that club is herschel walker and him and walker is another comparison you'll hear for mcfadden in terms of overall package.

great point. what some people fail to realize that this team is in complete rebuild mode. when you are in that place, you don't take players of need with your #1 pick, you take the bpa.

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great point. what some people fail to realize that this team is in complete rebuild mode. when you are in that place, you don't take players of need with your #1 pick, you take the bpa.

honestly, i don't think anybody has lost sight of the fact that we need players at a lot of positions. it's just that our line play this year has been such a disappointment that talking up any position other than lt feels weird. it's hard to be patient and accept that we can fill that hole in other ways, just as it's hard to be optimistic about quinn ojinnaka finally getting his opportunity. we drafted him to be a solution at lt, something he could have been in the gibbs scheme, but we've since switched to power attack. also, he's been beaten out by a udfa. the optimist's perspective would be that in foster, clabo and ojinnaka's playing time, we are getting a chance to see how good our depth is. the realist's point of view is that our line play has been so bad one guy is afraid to stand in the pocket and the other got punished for having the courage to do so. maybe qo can surprise us but if he doesn't, the idea of best lt in round one is appealing even to me, and i'm a diehard bpa guy. i know that patience is the prudent decision, but there comes a point where enough is enough. fortunately, with this draft's depth at the position, we won't have to panic like that.

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i noticed it every time i saw a mcfadden video or highlight, just kept my mouth shut so i wouldn't be flamed for blasting the 'safest pick in the draft'.

i've always believed you have a better chance of a bust with a back whos forte is elusiveness, because that attribute doesn't usually translate to the nfl very well.

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what you've failed to realize is that we've needed a lot of different things at different positions for years, however vick and all the attention that was focused on him allowed other areas to over achieve like the offensive line. and for the record, the remark about ap being a better running back is insane, he makes tons of people miss coming off the edge. if he has a second gear like mcfadden he wouldn't have to get physical. don't underestimate mcfadden, those numbers do not lie.

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correct. guys like bush and mcfadden can't outrun everybody in the nfl like they did in college. norwood is faster than mcfadden btw... and norwood is pretty **** elusive in space. i don't see mcfadden as a huge upgrade to norwood...

i do however, see long or oher as a huge upgrade to gandy/foster.

norwood is a rock, i know, i'm saying that you can aggravate people more with two rocks.

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i know darren mcfadden will be long gone before we pick so i hate even talking about him.

but i can't get over the fact that so many people ignorantly believe that he is not the real deal.

the guy would have gone over adrian peterson if he was draft eligible.

he's slightly bigger, showed more durability, and played against tougher competition in college. he's also listed as a better receiver.

not to mention the added element of the lt trick play.

and **** who knows, he could even add another staple with that wildcat formation with a creative enough coach and on a team with another fast back.

as far as his great oline, just like the same people who said he would take a step back with the loss of ugoh, he has proven them wrong.

ever think the reason why those holes look so great is because of how fast he hits them?

adrian peterson may run a faster 40 time than mcfadden but what mcfadden has is top notch acceleration. he hits the holes quickly so his line hardly has to even hold before he burst through.

and defenders will tell you it's next to impossible to square your shoulders when he burst through that hole.

because of ad's success and because of how sick mcfadden is in his own right, he will be a top 3 pick. so it's a moot point talking about taking him as a falcon

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correct. guys like bush and mcfadden can't outrun everybody in the nfl like they did in college. norwood is faster than mcfadden btw... and norwood is pretty **** elusive in space. i don't see mcfadden as a huge upgrade to norwood...

i do however, see long or oher as a huge upgrade to gandy/foster.

you would make a terrible gm if you passed on darren mcfadden because of jerious norwood who is 100% unproven as an every down back.

as far as comparing mcfadden to bush, what a freaking joke!

mcfadden is a guy who goes between the tackles. he also is much harder to bring down than bush.

he wasn't running sideline to sideline vs pac 10 defenses. he was running north/south against the best defenses in the country.

they are completely different players.

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i'd prefer a thunder and lighting approach like nyg had with tiki barber and brandon jacobs. we should get a big power back to complement norwood.

the only guy who fits that mold is jonathan stewart who is completely out of our draft range.

ray rice or mike hart (whichever one of them drops) could be a rock compared to warrick dunn

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