jidady Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 i wouldn't spend a first round pick on matt ryan. the mistakes he makes are not of the correctable variety. he's got moxy, but he's too easily confused by college coverages. i will be surprised if that changes against far more complex defenses. i've bit my tongue on this for a while, but this is a guy with big time question marks. we're going to pick in the top 10. someone else needs to draft him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 i wouldn't spend a first round pick on matt ryan. the mistakes he makes are not of the correctable variety. he's got moxy, but he's too easily confused by college coverages. i will be surprised if that changes against far more complex defenses. i've bit my tongue on this for a while, but this is a guy with big time question marks. we're going to pick in the top 10. someone else needs to draft him.yeah, i'm starting to think this too. i was really high on the guy earlier this year, but lately he's really changing my opinion. i knew the guy was turnover prone, but he's really shown a huge propensity for mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23vickfalcons Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 he will be a good pro guys, reminds me of rothlisbergerno way is he better than woodson or dixon as an nfl prospect thoughafter today the prospects are very clear to me1. woodson2. dixon3. ryan4. brohm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 i see it as brohm then woodson then dixon followed by henne then ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23vickfalcons Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 i see it as brohm then woodson then dixon followed by henne then ryan.i really respect you as a poster so this is definitely not a shot or anything its really a questionwhy would you rank brohm ahead of woodson, dixon or even ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23vickfalcons Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 consistency and doing it year after year.doing what? playing no one each yr & putting up huge passing yds??most top prospects could do that man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23vickfalcons Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 apparently they can't. see also: matt ryan.basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighteyes Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 doing what? playing no one each yr & putting up huge passing yds??most top prospects could do that manit sounds like you think that it is all about the big names schools to see who is the best not the talent which is what it should be about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 why would you rank brohm ahead of woodson, dixon or even ryanas i have said before, brohm reminds me a lot of chad pennington but without the physical limitations. entering 2007, pennington has been the afc version of vick in that whenever he is healthy, the jets win. when he's not, they lose. so, when i say brohm is like him, that's as high a compliment as i can give. brohm is a surgeon on the field, exhibiting the type of precision most quarterbacks only dream about. part of the draft process is to devalue players who don't go up or down much from their normal play. such is the case with brohm. i saw you criticize him earlier, calling him a loser. my response to this would be that the cardinals' point totals in the four games they lost were 34, 35, 35 and 17. that's one game where he could be blamed for not doing enough with the offense. in fact, his stats in those four games are:28/43 for 366 yards and 2 tds (8.5 ypa), 1 int39/58 for 467 yards and 4 tds (8.1 ypa)29/41 for 228 yards and 1 td (5.6 ypa), 2 int45/65 for 555 yards and 4 tds (8.5 ypa), 2 intthat's a combined 141/207 (68.1% completion percentage) averaging 404 passing yards per game at 7.8 ypa with a td to int ratio of 2.2 (11 tds vs. 5 ints) while leading his team to 30.2 points per game. stating the obvious, those are spectacular numbers. they're certainly not losing because of him. he's had an impressive run this year, but it's going unnoticed due to the struggles of his team's defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighteyes Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 as i have said before, brohm reminds me a lot of chad pennington but without the physical limitations. entering 2007, pennington has been the afc version of vick in that whenever he is healthy, the jets win. when he's not, they lose. so, when i say brohm is like him, that's as high a compliment as i can give. brohm is a surgeon on the field, exhibiting the type of precision most quarterbacks only dream about. part of the draft process is to devalue players who don't go up or down much from their normal play. such is the case with brohm. i saw you criticize him earlier, calling him a loser. my response to this would be that the cardinals' point totals in the four games they lost were 34, 35, 35 and 17. that's one game where he could be blamed for not doing enough with the offense. in fact, his stats in those four games are:28/43 for 366 yards and 2 tds (8.5 ypa), 1 int39/58 for 467 yards and 4 tds (8.1 ypa)29/41 for 228 yards and 1 td (5.6 ypa), 2 int45/65 for 555 yards and 4 tds (8.5 ypa), 2 intthat's a combined 141/207 (68.1% completion percentage) averaging 404 passing yards per game at 7.8 ypa with a td to int ratio of 2.2 (11 tds vs. 5 ints) while leading his team to 30.2 points per game. stating the obvious, those are spectacular numbers. they're certainly not losing because of him. he's had an impressive run this year, but it's going unnoticed due to the struggles of his team's defense.hence more ppl base the talent on the school not the player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willwork4tackles Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 i wouldn't spend a first on ryan either and i was one of his original supporters here. i wouldn't trade up into the late first round to get him either. he is no brady quinn. he could end up being a good nfl qb, but he is a 2nd-3rd round pick talent at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmesomo Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 he will be a good pro guys, reminds me of rothlisbergerno way is he better than woodson or dixon as an nfl prospect thoughafter today the prospects are very clear to me1. woodson2. dixon3. ryan4. brohm good one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23vickfalcons Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 good one...your top 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23vickfalcons Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 hence more ppl base the talent on the school not the playerman with your guys thinking anyone can become a first round talentim fast as ######, i could have went to santa monica community college & put up 10,000 yds a yr & id be a first round talent according to you guysmight have to take a spin down to smcc next wk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 im fast as ######, i could have went to santa monica community college & put up 10,000 yds a yr & id be a first round talent according to you guysit worked for chad johnson and steve smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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