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nfl truth: hip-hop culture hurting nfl

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jason whitlock is such a twit...

you can't blame the actions of any individual on a culture. you can not do that. period. end of story. it doesn't matter if the author is black or white...

to me this is no different than the white people who make the same suggestions...

this is no different than blaming all white people when one white serial killer is arrested or blaming all black people when one black person steals a car...

he's clearly sucking up to the masses of white people who are ignorant to the culture that they are trying to attack...

and thats not an ignorant statement?

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and thats not an ignorant statement?

how so?

so, you believe the majority of white people who agree with whitlock's article are knowledgeable in the culture?

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how so?

so, you believe the majority of white people who agree with whitlock's article are knowledgeable in the culture?

masses indicate an overwhelming minority or even majority of a grouping of people. i dont agree that a large percentage of white people would attack the culture being villified in his article.

i would agree that a small percentage of white people(as well as black people) would "attack" the culture, as you put it. the way you phrased your last sentence wouldnt indicate a small percentage though. a different word than "masses" could have been used if you wanted to indicate that. i cant determine context on the internet so words play a big role, and "masses" infers a large group. i dont agree with that opinion if that was indeed the message you were trying to convey.

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masses indicate an overwhelming minority or even majority of a grouping of people. i dont agree that a large percentage of white people would attack the culture being villified in his article.

i would agree that a small percentage of white people(as well as black people) would "attack" the culture, as you put it. the way you phrased your last sentence wouldnt indicate a small percentage though. a different word than "masses" could have been used if you wanted to indicate that. i cant determine context on the internet so words play a big role, and "masses" infers a large group. i dont agree with that opinion if that was indeed the message you were trying to convey.

what i was trying to imply was that this poorly written article by whitlock will be used by those ignorant of hip hop as ammunition in the attacking of the culture...

the fact of the matter is since the majority of the people who agree with this article aren't exactly well-versed in hip hop...

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what i was trying to imply was that this poorly written article by whitlock will be used by those ignorant of hip hop as ammunition in the attacking of the culture...

the fact of the matter is since the majority of the people who agree with this article aren't exactly well-versed in hip hop...

hip hop has few positive qualities intrinsic in it, but is hardly to blame for individual's actions. its up to the person to make ultimate choices in their life. people with a different set of norms and values from the majority will continue to make their choices in life, regardless of their culture or influences.

like someone mentioned before, he was just looking for a scapegoat to push an agenda....however one could make a broad arguement about influencing factors in a culture.

in music's case, there is a reciprocal relationship among culture and the influence of music. music is originated out of a cultural demand for it...and the culture will reinforce that music while the demand exists.

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how come no one complains about hockey players fighting...? it's part of the game!

how come no one complains about bench clearing brawls in baseball...? it's part of the game!

how come no one complains when soccer players run around like they are crazy after a goal...? it's part of the game!

so how come when 8 men stack the line and tackle lj 8 yards deep and he spikes it because he is upset he is labeled a disgrace or a" thug?"

man, this country is something else. mad.gif

exactly, but in bball & football if you argue in someones

face your a thug and have issues. laugh.gif

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hip hop has few positive qualities intrinsic in it, but is hardly to blame for individual's actions. its up to the person to make ultimate choices in their life. people with a different set of norms and values from the majority will continue to make their choices in life, regardless of their culture or influences.

like someone mentioned before, he was just looking for a scapegoat to push an agenda....however one could make a broad arguement about influencing factors in a culture.

in music's case, there is a reciprocal relationship among culture and the influence of music. music is originated out of a cultural demand for it...and the culture will reinforce that music while the demand exists.

no, modern rap is totally void of positive qualities...

see? there is a difference. this is what i'm talking about. the people who are reading whitlock's articles have little to no idea of what hip hop is and he is preying on their already bias opinions on the subject matter...

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no, modern rap is totally void of positive qualities...

see? there is a difference. this is what i'm talking about. the people who are reading whitlock's articles have little to no idea of what hip hop is and he is preying on their already bias opinions on the subject matter...

there is no bias on my part sir...most music have few 'positive' qualities intrinsic in them. that goes for music that i enjoy as well.

i cant sit here and tell you with a straight face that the foo fighter's music furthers society in a constructive manner...doesnt mean i still dont like them a lot.

and like any music, there is no black and white when it comes to the rap/hiphop delineation. there are polar songs for both groups, but like a bell curve, many songs have a bit of both.

same thing goes for any genre of music.

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there is no bias on my part sir...most music have few 'positive' qualities intrinsic in them. that goes for music that i enjoy as well.

i cant sit here and tell you with a straight face that the foo fighter's music furthers society in a constructive manner...doesnt mean i still dont like them a lot.

and like any music, there is no black and white when it comes to the rap/hiphop delineation. there are polar songs for both groups, but like a bell curve, many songs have a bit of both.

same thing goes for any genre of music.

i didn't say you were bias, but the majority of the people who think there is any legitimacy to whitlock's article are and your reply to my previous statement is proof the people who subscribe to that bias aren't likely to be able to figure out the difference...

as far as hip-hop is concerned, the genre was founded on educational entertainment, an overwhelming majority of early hip-hop acts are positive. today many still exist but they aren't as popular...

it wasn't until commercialism crept into the genre that gangsta rap came to be. the name "hip-hop" was then given to all the negative aspects of the culture; the gangbanging, selfishness, gunplay, womanizing, drug dealing, etc...

you are right that today's contributions have both, but the negative is what is popular, the negative is what makes it's way to mtv, bet, radio and into the ears of young america, and it's the negative that people are basing their judgments off of...

that is why jason whitlock is so wrong for releasing these articles because people who readily agree with him would just as quickly throw the baby out with the bathwater...

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i didn't say you were bias, but the majority of the people who think there is any legitimacy to whitlock's article are and your reply to my previous statement is proof the people who subscribe to that bias aren't likely to be able to figure out the difference...

as far as hip-hop is concerned, the genre was founded on educational entertainment, an overwhelming majority of early hip-hop acts are positive. today many still exist but they aren't as popular...

it wasn't until commercialism crept into the genre that gangsta rap came to be. the name "hip-hop" was then given to all the negative aspects of the culture; the gangbanging, selfishness, gunplay, womanizing, drug dealing, etc...

you are right that today's contributions have both, but the negative is what is popular, the negative is what makes it's way to mtv, bet, radio and into the ears of young america, and it's the negative that people are basing their judgments off of...

that is why jason whitlock is so wrong for releasing these articles because people who readily agree with him would just as quickly throw the baby out with the bathwater...

scapegoat is a good term, but 'quick fix' in their eyes might fit the bill even better. only if life was that easy huh?

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the rams have 21 white players on their 53 man roster.... guess that blows his theory right out of the water. rolleyes.gif

it's disgusting what some writers will talk about just to sell a few rags.

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completely ignorant and irresponsible article. whitening up rosters? i guess every black person is a hardcore hip hop advocate. you posters that agree with him must swim in the same pool of ignorance. to classify all hip hop the same way would be like comparing death metal to soft rock. yes thats right not all of hip hop is the same, just what you see on your television screens. theres so many points i could bring up but i wont even get into with most of the people on this board.

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this article is total trash. making broad generalizations about groups of people is not good journalism: it is sensationalism designed to gain the writer notoriety.

every generation has to hear how their rebelliousness is ruining the country. this is a very long trend in american culture going back to the 50's when hollywood produced movies about "gang" culture, which continued right into the 60's with the motorcyle gang movies.

i heard all this garbage about my generation being ruined by sex, drugs, and rock&roll in the 60's and 70's.

the status quo does not like to be upset by change.

the funniest part is him characterizing hip hop as a black only experience. i hate to pop his bubble, but my son, who is white, listens to hip hop all the time, as do his friends. there are plenty of white fans of hip hop now.

as the writer himself pointed out, there have been plenty of rebels in the nfl before hip hop.

perfectly said, end of discussion.

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