peedue Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 bobby petrino may know the x's and o's of football but he has no management skills................communication skills at all. zero. you can operate in college with kids this way and get away with it but not at the pro level where respect towards your players mean everything.he has the "bedside manners" of hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000# Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 i'd rather the "bedside manners of hitler" with petrino than the "beside manners of little miss muffet" that we had with mora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 15, 2007 Author Share Posted November 15, 2007 i'd rather the "bedside manners of hitler" with petrino than the "beside manners of little miss muffet" that we had with mora.somewhere in between might be nice, don't you think ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 respect toward the players???? petrino is not an adolescent psychologist, he's a football coach. he's the boss, and the players work for him. they're paid millions of dollars to play a game, so it's in their interest to respect him, and do what he says....not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty4life Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 petrino has been clear the whole time. after the giants game he named byron the starter. if joey tricked himself into beliving otherwise b/c of how well our defense has been playing... that's on him (and the joey huggers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_red_storm Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 bobby petrino may know the x's and o's of football but he has no management skills................communication skills at all. zero. you can operate in college with kids this way and get away with it but not at the pro level where respect towards your players mean everything.he has the "bedside manners" of hitler.i blame mora; these players would know how things worked if mora would not have powdered their little bottoms for them before warming their milk while he was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonsfan Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 he's the boss, and the players work for him. they're paid millions of dollars to play a game, so it's in their interest to respect him, and do what he says....not the other way around.i have to disagree. petrino's continuing employment (as well as all other nfl coaches) is tied directly to the team's performance on the field. to be clear, the player's don't have to like a coach, but they do have to respect him - and respect is a two-way street - and be willing to play to the fullest extent of their ability each and every weekend. when that doesn't happen (whether the result of a lack of talent or because the coach lost the locker room), it is the coach that usually gets his walking papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 15, 2007 Author Share Posted November 15, 2007 respect toward the players???? petrino is not an adolescent psychologist, he's a football coach. he's the boss, and the players work for him. they're paid millions of dollars to play a game, so it's in their interest to respect him, and do what he says....not the other way around.well, none of us see what actually goes on at flowery branch. we just don't, and that's understandable. but, when you coach, it's no different than running a small company, something i did for over half my life. or, being an officer in the military. you communicate.....................clearly..............objectively..............an honestly. if you do that consistantly................not just when it's easy or convenient...............you win the respect of everyone under you. this is true.........it works, and i would hope coach petrino realizes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statick Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 bobby petrino may know the x's and o's of football but he has no management skills................communication skills at all. zero. you can operate in college with kids this way and get away with it but not at the pro level where respect towards your players mean everything.he has the "bedside manners" of hitler.respect? it's nice to have, but these guys are being paid alot of money to do a job, whether they like the coach or not.if they want a daddy figure, they need to go home for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bingo Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 i blame mora; these players would know how things worked if mora would not have powdered their little bottoms for them before warming their milk while he was here. "does little alge need some warm milky"?that's hilarious, but sadly true. some players and obviously some fansgot used to the warm fuzzy cocoa feeling.bp is the boss and from what i've heard the players are respondingand joey should keep his displeasure in house.what was he ????? again?oh yeah, the fact that bobby named lefty thestarter for the rest of the season prior to the saints game.i wish mora was still here so we could hear a better list of excuses for losing!!!bp's only excuse is there ain't no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonsfan Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 respect? it's nice to have, but these guys are being paid alot of money to do a job, whether they like the coach or not.at least for me, i don't think the players have to like a coach, but they do have to respect him - and respect is a two-way street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statick Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 at least for me, i don't think the players have to like a coach, but they do have to respect him - and respect is a two-way street.yeah, right.mora got alot of respect. so much so that it ended up with him getting canned. the day i see respect ending up being directly correlated to performance on the field, i'll believe the two-way street thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 15, 2007 Author Share Posted November 15, 2007 yeah, right.mora got alot of respect. so much so that it ended up with him getting canned. the day i see respect ending up being directly correlated to performance on the field, i'll believe the two-way street thing.ok, all you have to do is watch the patriot's next game this sunday nite, then..............voila !! you'll be a believer !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000# Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 some players and obviously some fansgot used to the warm fuzzy cocoa feeling.fact: joey loves hot cocoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 15, 2007 Author Share Posted November 15, 2007 fact: joey loves hot cocoayeah but playing in the dome.............not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statick Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 ok, all you have to do is watch the patriot's next game this sunday nite, then..............voila !! you'll be a believer !!!yeah, i'm sure the fans packing the stands will be a big help as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 i have to disagree. petrino's continuing employment (as well as all other nfl coaches) is tied directly to the team's performance on the field. to be clear, the player's don't have to like a coach, but they do have to respect him - and respect is a two-way street - and be willing to play to the fullest extent of their ability each and every weekend. when that doesn't happen (whether the result of a lack of talent or because the coach lost the locker room), it is the coach that usually gets his walking papers.as is any bosses job but you replace the workers with motivated ones. its that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 15, 2007 Author Share Posted November 15, 2007 as is any bosses job but you replace the workers with motivated ones. its that simple.nuf sed !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonsfan Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 yeah, right.mora got alot of respect. so much so that it ended up with him getting canned. the day i see respect ending up being directly correlated to performance on the field, i'll believe the two-way street thing.1. bellichek - can anyone name five people in the entire world that actually likes this guy? no? i can name an entire team that respects him.2. parcells - not exactly the definition of warm and fuzzy - but when he was still coaching, his teams respected him and played to the best of their abilities for him.or, on the other end, we have norv turner. now, i never believed that sd was going to be as good as advertised, but they sure aren't as bad as they're playing now. what happened? they now have a new coach (formerly an oc and thought to be an offensive genius - where have we heard all that before?), that has the personality of a wet piece of toast. the player's apparently like him, yet do not respect him enough to zip their lips when around reporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonsfan Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 as is any bosses job but you replace the workers with motivated ones. its that simple.in the "real world" that may work...but we're talking about the rarified air of the nfl. for many good reasons (limited talent pool, salary cap, etc.), simply replacing the workers isn't...well, it isn't simple. the fact is, it is easier to replace a coach (and less expensive) than it is to replace even a few players, and don't think for one minute the players don't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statick Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 1. bellichek - can anyone name five people in the entire world that actually likes this guy? no? i can name an entire team that respects him.2. parcells - not exactly the definition of warm and fuzzy - but when he was still coaching, his teams respected him and played to the best of their abilities for him.or, on the other end, we have norv turner. now, i never believed that sd was going to be as good as advertised, but they sure aren't as bad as they're playing now. what happened? they now have a new coach (formerly an oc and thought to be an offensive genius - where have we heard all that before?), that has the personality of a wet piece of toast. the player's apparently like him, yet do not respect him enough to zip their lips when around reporters.and either guy has been coaching in the nfl for how many years now? bellichek didn't garner instant respect from his players during his first year as a head coach. many thought he was a stoic eccentric when they first met him. but winning changes a person's perception as a coach, still i have yet to see a direct correlation to respect to performance on the field. parcells basically scared the player's into performing. i don't see that as respect. if that were so, then keyshawn johnson would have stayed a cowboy when bill was coaching.i find it funny how a couple of players run their mouths and all of a sudden petrino has lost respect or control of the team. give the guy some time to gain respect before you pass judgment on his management style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 and either guy has been coaching in the nfl for how many years now? bellichek didn't garner instant respect from his players during his first year as a head coach. many thought he was a stoic eccentric when they first met him. but winning changes a person's perception as a coach, still i have yet to see a direct correlation to respect to performance on the field. parcells basically scared the player's into performing. i don't see that as respect. if that were so, then keyshawn johnson would have stayed a cowboy when bill was coaching.i find it funny how a couple of players run their mouths and all of a sudden petrino has lost respect or control of the team. give the guy some time to gain respect before you pass judgment on his management style.the main point we should all think of is : we really don't know what is said behind closed doors in flowery branch. and that's the way it should be. don't believe every thing you read.who said that ?i like that !!have a good night !!i'm outta here............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsflyin Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 petrino has been clear the whole time. after the giants game he named byron the starter. if joey tricked himself into beliving otherwise b/c of how well our defense has been playing... that's on him (and the joey huggers)perfecto! well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiney_McShine Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 well.....petrino should have told us, the fans......maybe he is responsible for the launch date of the new forums being pushed back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peedue Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 well.....petrino should have told us, the fans......maybe he is responsible for the launch date of the new forums being pushed back.you know, you're right !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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