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speaking of talent and not including off the field issues, here's my list

offense

rb- jamal anderson and william andrews back him up

fb - bob christian

wr- t. mathis, risen, martin,

te- crump

qb- vick and chandler

ol - b. fralic, whitfield (even with the holding ha), forney, ephirim salaam

defense

cb- d. sanders, ray buchannon and d hall

s- scott case and milloy and brian jordon

lb tuggle, nobis, brooking

dl- abe, rod coleman, c. bennett, lester a.

head coach

dan reeves

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well, if you're including just the years they spent with the falcons, maybe. if you're including career, i'd go with:

qb: bartkowski, chandler

rb: eric dickerson (yes, he played for the falcons), william andrews, jamal anderson

fb: gerald riggs (i believe he played fullback though he was a featured rusher just like larry czonka), bob christian

wr: mathis, rison, horn (his career has been superb), jenkins

te: junior miller, alge crumpler

ol: jeff van note, mike kenn, bill fralic, bob whitfield (oh, if only he had actually cared about football!), possibly blalock if he plays up to his ability

cb: deion sanders, deangelo hall, possibly ray buchanan (i'm drawing a blank of corners for some reason)

lb: tommy nobis, jessie tuggle, cornelius bennett

s: scott case, lawyer milloy

dl: claude humphrey (how could you forget him???), chuck smith, good lord, i'm drawing a blank on defensive tackles. i must be going nuts.

k: mort (duh)

p: hmmm.... stryzinski? he had a very solid average and was a fantastic directional punter for a long time

kr/pr: deion

i'm missing several, especially at dt, but i'm at work and can't really devote the time to it that i'd like.

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can't believe vick is on the list at all. exciting player, but never fulfilled his potential as a quarterback.

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career passing td to int ratio ranks:

1.) vick: 71/52 = 1.38 to 1

2.) george: 154/113 = 1.36 to 1

3.) chandler: 170/146 = 1.21 to 1

4.) millier: 123/102 = 1.21 to 1

5. ) hebert: 135/124 = 1.09 to 1

6.) bartkowski: 156/144 = 1.08 to 1

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no, i guess it doesn't matter, but it probably matters just as much as the all-time td/int ratios for falcons' qbs. the thread wasn't really about that, either.

the td to int ratio has more to do with who performed better, which is directly related to the topic at hand. the question of who could have been better is another topic.

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well, if you're including just the years they spent with the falcons, maybe. if you're including career, i'd go with:

qb: bartkowski, chandler

rb: eric dickerson (yes, he played for the falcons), william andrews, jamal anderson

fb: gerald riggs (i believe he played fullback though he was a featured rusher just like larry czonka), bob christian

wr: mathis, rison, horn (his career has been superb), jenkins

te: junior miller, alge crumpler

ol: jeff van note, mike kenn, bill fralic, bob whitfield (oh, if only he had actually cared about football!), possibly blalock if he plays up to his ability

cb: deion sanders, deangelo hall, possibly ray buchanan (i'm drawing a blank of corners for some reason)

lb: tommy nobis, jessie tuggle, cornelius bennett

s: scott case, lawyer milloy

dl: claude humphrey (how could you forget him???), chuck smith, good lord, i'm drawing a blank on defensive tackles. i must be going nuts.

k: mort (duh)

p: hmmm.... stryzinski? he had a very solid average and was a fantastic directional punter for a long time

kr/pr: deion

you forgot lb fulton kuykendall!!

i'm missing several, especially at dt, but i'm at work and can't really devote the time to it that i'd like.

direwolf

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actually, it is all subjective. you say td/int ratio has more to do with who performed better, others may say wins, others may say playoff wins, others may say sb appearances, others may say yards, etc., etc., etc.

i didn't ask who could have been better. i simply asked you if you thought that vick reached his potential, which, if i am not mistaken, is what direwolf said he did not do. your response to him was to start throwing up stats that can be used to argue any point of view. i would still like to know if you think that vick reached his potential.

it's a silly question to ask don't you think? of course he never reached his potential......i don't know if you know this or not, but he is still pretty young and isn't allowed to play this season and maybe never again....how one could think he reached his potential is beyond me.

ps- i wonder where the vick led falcons ranks when it does come to wins and playoff wins.

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i am not disagreeing with you. i would put him behind bart also, and more than likely behind chandler.

chandler = 1 magical season with a line, rb, and good defense.

i never had a problem with chandler, personally, but i realized that he wasnt the guy for this organization if we werent even making an attempt to keep him upright(drafting linemen to do so).

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the thing about chandler, though, was he knew how to lead the team. sure, he couldn't stay upright, and sure he couldn't stay healthy, but when he was on the field, the team just kind of had a confidence about them. maybe i am just hypnotized by the fact that it was the only sb team in 40 years....

chandler was great 1998,had a **** nice touch on his long throws,the minnesota nfc title game was his finest hour.he is 1a bart is 1b vick is 2

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here's my list:

qb - steve bartkowski and mike vick

rb - william andrews, gerald riggs, jamaal anderson

fb - bob christian and william andrews (great blocker as well)

wr - alfred jenkins, andre rison, terrance mathis, wallace francis

te - alge crumpler, junior miller

ol - mike kenn, bill fralic, r.c. theilmann, chris hinton, jeff van note

dl - claude humphries, chuck smith, pat kerney, chris doleman

lb - buddy curry, jessie tuggle, fulton kykendall, keith brooking

cb - deon, deangelo hall, bobby butler

ss - scott case, tom pridemore

kr - billy "white shoes" johnson

pr - billy "white shoes" johnson

p - john james

k - morten anderson

hc - leaman bennett

dc - jerry glanville (gritz blitz)

oc - june jones

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here's my list:

qb - bret farve ,steve bartkowski

rb - william andrews, jamaal anderson

fb - bob christian

wr - alfred jenkins, terrance mathis, wallace francis

te - alge crumpler

ol - mike kenn, bill fralic, r.c. theilmann, jeff van note

dl - claude humphries, chuck smith, pat kerney,(soon to be john abraham)

lb - jessie tuggle, keith brooking(soon to be boley)

cb - deon, deangelo hall, bobby butler

ss - scott case(man could he blow some people up!)

kr - billy "white shoes" johnson

pr - billy "white shoes" johnson

p - john james

k - jay feely

hc - dan reaves

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here's my list:

qb - steve bartkowski and mike vick

rb - william andrews, gerald riggs, jamaal anderson

fb - bob christian and william andrews (great blocker as well)

wr - alfred jenkins, andre rison, terrance mathis, wallace francis

te - alge crumpler, junior miller

ol - mike kenn, bill fralic, r.c. theilmann, chris hinton, jeff van note

dl - claude humphries, chuck smith, pat kerney, chris doleman

lb - buddy curry, jessie tuggle, fulton kykendall, keith brooking

cb - deon, deangelo hall, bobby butler

ss - scott case, tom pridemore

kr - billy "white shoes" johnson

pr - billy "white shoes" johnson

p - john james

k - morten anderson

hc - leaman bennett

dc - jerry glanville (gritz blitz)

oc - june jones

what made you pass on tommy nobis at linebacker? that guy should be in the hall of fame!

direwolf

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speaking of talent and not including off the field issues, here's my list

offense

rb- jamal anderson and william andrews back him up

fb - bob christian

wr- t. mathis, risen, martin,

te- crump

qb- vick and chandler

ol - b. fralic, whitfield (even with the holding ha), forney, ephirim salaam

defense

cb- d. sanders, ray buchannon and d hall

s- scott case and milloy and brian jordon

lb tuggle, nobis, brooking

dl- abe, rod coleman, c. bennett, lester a.

head coach

dan reeves

who's risen?

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what made you pass on tommy nobis at linebacker? that guy should be in the hall of fame!

direwolf

i was too young to see him play live. plus there's not alot of footage of those falcons 66-74, especially since falconsvision is off the air. i'd have to take someone's word for it. i heard he was great though.

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chandler = 1 magical season with a line, rb, and good defense.

i never had a problem with chandler, personally, but i realized that he wasnt the guy for this organization if we werent even making an attempt to keep him upright(drafting linemen to do so).

excellent point on chandler , and vick was brought in to fill the stadium not win a super bowl

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