TheDirtyWordII Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 more than likely it was "omg - he's great! finally a good coach". or something to that extent.so let's withhold making any type of absolute judgements on petrino. fact is, mora walked into a situation where the franchise player was coming back from a major injury so it was getting a boost. petrino walks into a situation where the franchise player has been banned from the nfl. i think given the lessons we all should have learned in evaluating mora's capabilities, let's give petrino a larger sample size than 7 games before making any firm conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Falcon 50 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 more than likely it was "omg - he's great! finally a good coach". or something to that extent.so let's withhold making any type of absolute judgements on petrino. fact is, mora walked into a situation where the franchise player was coming back from a major injury so it was getting a boost. petrino walks into a situation where the franchise player has been banned from the nfl. i think given the lessons we all should have learned in evaluating mora's capabilities, let's give petrino a larger sample size than 7 games before making any firm conclusions.im willing to wait and see as well....i think bp will end up being a good nfl coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 13 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.ding!!!ding!!!!ding!!!!we have a winner!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINIK4L Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.^^^what he said.the people calling bp clueless are hilarious. like they actually have a clue about how to run an nfl team. and to make that decision based on 7 games, after the offseason we had. wow. thats smart.all of these 'bp is clueless' people need to look in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfalcon922 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 mora was alright.... could have done a better job...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneweiser Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 well also consider mora 's 1rst year was with a team that reeves built!!but i will give petrino 1 more year after this to see if he can turn this club around.no playoff's=no job!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Falcon 50 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 mora was alright.... could have done a better job......are u serious.....mora jr was a buddy not a coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons faithful Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.ok just so we understand. if you say he needs more then this season (which would be passing judgement) you can figure out the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedinredandblack Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.what he said! absolutely, if some of the people on here ran the team we would have another 30 years of losing. you have to build continuity in an organization. it's been proven that no-one can build a winning organization if you're playing musical chairs with your coaching. i give bp 2 more years to get us into early round playoffs and 4 years to a sb.....and i'm no spring chicken that has another 30 years left to watch the falcons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 well also consider mora 's 1rst year was with a team that reeves built!!but i will give petrino 1 more year after this to see if he can turn this club around.no playoff's=no job!!!yes mora started with a reeves built teambut bp had to start with a mora built team minus the one great player mora had! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statick Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.i know that.you know that.anyone with common sense knows this.those that don't...well...you can't reason with persons suffering from madden psychosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerrex01 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 man i miss reeves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Falcon 50 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 i know that.you know that.anyone with common sense knows this.those that don't...well...you can't reason with persons suffering from madden psychosis.lol funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Falcon 50 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 man i miss reeves!me too allthough i think we will like bp just as much in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signout Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 i am not passing judgment on petrino yet, but let follow this logically. people said mora won with reeves players and now petrino has to play with mora players. so where exactly does mckay fit into the equation? doesn't he suppose to the one who build the team for the coach to coach? granted mora and petrino might said i need a run stuffer or a power fb and mckay goes and get it for them, but ultimately mckay is the one who select which run stuffer or fb. furthermore, which year do we consider the players to be mora(& mckay) players and no longer reeves players? the core of vick, dunn, crumpler, almost the whole ol, brooking, kerney, etc... these are players under reeves that mora had all the way up to last year. so again what year can we said that it is mora players and not reeves players anymore? i am not sure we can. then how can we said petrino is playing with mora players if it was never his(mora) players any year he was here? ultimately regardless who players these players were/are, you have to look at the job that each coach did with them. mora was here 2004-2006 with records of 11-5, 8-8, 7-9 but always had a great start and falter down the stretch. don't know if it is average team overachieving or bad coaching and can't adjust, probably the latter. of course injuries didn't really help either. with petrino we are 1-6 so far with basically the same players(minus a big one) that were 8-8 and 7-9. you can said it's due to missing vick, new system, new scheme, etc... all i know is that we still don't know what petrino is or will be. he can be better than mora, but then again he can also be worse as he has not shown us that he can win with these players either. if mora did not have vick in 2004 then would he too start 1-6? maybe, maybe not, but even if he did and start releasing veteran players, is he then doing any worse than what petrino is doing now? of course not. so why it is prematurely to pass judgment on petrino, i also think he doesn't warrant any defense either. i think we just need to sit back and wait to see. if people want to criticize him now then let them, but defend him now and you might be defending another mora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bingo Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Falcon 50 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 i am not passing judgment on petrino yet, but let follow this logically. people said mora won with reeves players and now petrino has to play with mora players. so where exactly does mckay fit into the equation? doesn't he suppose to the one who build the team for the coach to coach? granted mora and petrino might said i need a run stuffer or a power fb and mckay goes and get it for them, but ultimately mckay is the one who select which run stuffer or fb. furthermore, which year do we consider the players to be mora(& mckay) players and no longer reeves players? the core of vick, dunn, crumpler, almost the whole ol, brooking, kerney, etc... these are players under reeves that mora had all the way up to last year. so again what year can we said that it is mora players and not reeves players anymore? i am not sure we can. then how can we said petrino is playing with mora players if it was never his(mora) players any year he was here? ultimately regardless who players these players were/are, you have to look at the job that each coach did with them. mora was here 2004-2006 with records of 11-5, 8-8, 7-9 but always had a great start and falter down the stretch. don't know if it is average team overachieving or bad coaching and can't adjust, probably the latter. of course injuries didn't really help either. with petrino we are 1-6 so far with basically the same players(minus a big one) that were 8-8 and 7-9. you can said it's due to missing vick, new system, new scheme, etc... all i know is that we still don't know what petrino is or will be. he can be better than mora, but then again he can also be worse as he has not shown us that he can win with these players either. if mora did not have vick in 2004 then would he too start 1-6? maybe, maybe not, but even if he did and start releasing veteran players, is he then doing any worse than what petrino is doing now? of course not. so why it is prematurely to pass judgment on petrino, i also think he doesn't warrent any defense either. i think we just need to sit back and wait to see. if people want to criticize him now then let them, but defend him now and you might be defending another mora.i will not defend him now cause i see what all critiques are saying....but im willing to wait and see.....but i want some improvement next year......is that fair to say??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconJerry Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 yes mora started with a reeves built teambut bp had to start with a mora built team minus the one great player mora had!you said it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signout Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 i will not defend him now cause i see what all critiques are saying....but im willing to wait and see.....but i want some improvement next year......is that fair to say???i think wait and see is the best stand in this case. if people want to blame him, let them. you don't have to join in but you also don't have to defend him either. just know that you are holding your judgment until a later time. to defend him now i think is to say that you believe what he is doing is right, and i don't think anyone can said that at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon124 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 mora was alright.... could have done a better job......mora road dan reeves team to the nfccg much like gruden road dungy's team to the superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce reville Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 well also consider mora 's 1rst year was with a team that reeves built!!but i will give petrino 1 more year after this to see if he can turn this club around.no playoff's=no job!!!for all those who says mora came in with a team reeves built -- well he did one thing with a reeves team that reeves couldn't do -- win!and before people jump up and down and say "but but vick was hurt?!!!!ok then explain 1999 - 2000 - 2001 -- what?! another player injured? puh-leasereeves did great in 1998 - almost p!$$ed away 2003 -- thank god we don't have a reeves team anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce reville Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 are u serious.....mora jr was a buddy not a coachsame question different day -- who was mora jr? he sure is popular or unpopular on these boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce reville Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.amen - i say wait until after the 3rd season before you can truely evaluate petrino's job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak.the.knight Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 anyone who judges petrino based on this season knows absolutely zero about nfl football.i agree, let's wait and see. people thought belichick wasn't that great of a coach after his first season with the browns, look at him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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