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from si.com truth and rumors:

"vikings coach brad childress, in dire need of a qb, was donovan mcnabb's offensive coordinator and qb coach before coming to minnesota. if childress is back next year, as expected, it would make sense to trade with pal andy reid, the eagles' coach, for the established mcnabb, 30, who probably could use a change of scenery. a trade, which probably would cost the vikings a second-round draft pick, makes more sense than drafting another qb in april and waiting two years for him to develop."

our team has enough playmakers on both sides of the the ball. what we are lacking is oline and qb play. if we can improve each, we could compete for a playoff spot next year. the draft will not provide much in the way of immediate upgrades. trading one of our seconds next year for mcnabb would provide a year or two for our qb of the future to develop (whoever that is) and free us from being forced to reach for a qb if there isn't a good value when we pick. this would be a waste if we didn't improve the oline through free agency and/or lottery pick. we are not as far away as our record indicates. our deficiencies are just at the most critical positions, and can't be covered up through scheme or playcalling.

also, is there really anyone we'll get in the second round that could help us win games more than mcnabb? if we pick up a young qb, do you really want him learning from joey or byron? mcnabb could do for them what horn has done for roddy- only mcnabb still has some gas left in the tank.

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from si.com truth and rumors:

"vikings coach brad childress, in dire need of a qb, was donovan mcnabb's offensive coordinator and qb coach before coming to minnesota. if childress is back next year, as expected, it would make sense to trade with pal andy reid, the eagles' coach, for the established mcnabb, 30, who probably could use a change of scenery. a trade, which probably would cost the vikings a second-round draft pick, makes more sense than drafting another qb in april and waiting two years for him to develop."

our team has enough playmakers on both sides of the the ball. what we are lacking is oline and qb play. if we can improve each, we could compete for a playoff spot next year. the draft will not provide much in the way of immediate upgrades. trading one of our seconds next year for mcnabb would provide a year or two for our qb of the future to develop (whoever that is) and free us from being forced to reach for a qb if there isn't a good value when we pick. this would be a waste if we didn't improve the oline through free agency and/or lottery pick. we are not as far away as our record indicates. our deficiencies are just at the most critical positions, and can't be covered up through scheme or playcalling.

also, is there really anyone we'll get in the second round that could help us win games more than mcnabb? if we pick up a young qb, do you really want him learning from joey or byron? mcnabb could do for them what horn has done for roddy- only mcnabb still has some gas left in the tank.

what gas is that? the aftermath of free taco day at taco bell today??? mcnabb is done.. we need to start looking towards the future.. not wasting a 2nd round pick on him when he is gonna last a couple years if even that... there are tons of players in the second round that have way more potential then mcnabb has skill left in the tank right now.. the dude is over the hill.. he just needs to walk away.. or role away on his wheel chair when he gets hurt again soon... the young qb you speak of wouldn't be learning from another qb.. he would learn from the only person that matters.. petrino...

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what gas is that? the aftermath of free taco day at taco bell today??? mcnabb is done.. we need to start looking towards the future.. not wasting a 2nd round pick on him when he is gonna last a couple years if even that...

the guy cant even last a whole season...he is done....we are better off starting leftwich next year and seasoning a young qb!

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from si.com truth and rumors:

"vikings coach brad childress, in dire need of a qb, was donovan mcnabb's offensive coordinator and qb coach before coming to minnesota. if childress is back next year, as expected, it would make sense to trade with pal andy reid, the eagles' coach, for the established mcnabb, 30, who probably could use a change of scenery. a trade, which probably would cost the vikings a second-round draft pick, makes more sense than drafting another qb in april and waiting two years for him to develop."

our team has enough playmakers on both sides of the the ball. what we are lacking is oline and qb play. if we can improve each, we could compete for a playoff spot next year. the draft will not provide much in the way of immediate upgrades. trading one of our seconds next year for mcnabb would provide a year or two for our qb of the future to develop (whoever that is) and free us from being forced to reach for a qb if there isn't a good value when we pick. this would be a waste if we didn't improve the oline through free agency and/or lottery pick. we are not as far away as our record indicates. our deficiencies are just at the most critical positions, and can't be covered up through scheme or playcalling.

also, is there really anyone we'll get in the second round that could help us win games more than mcnabb? if we pick up a young qb, do you really want him learning from joey or byron? mcnabb could do for them what horn has done for roddy- only mcnabb still has some gas left in the tank.

are you kidding? we have one of the worst, most atrocious offenses in the league. outside of roddy, jerious, and may laurent robinson, there is no one else on this offense that can give you a big play. i don't even want to talk about the defense. as for the trade, no thanks. mcnabb is done, we already have an injury prone qb on the team.

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no way we spend a 2nd on mcnabb. i would go no hire than a 4th. and isn't his contract up at the end of the year?

he is in decline and has sustained multiple injuries. i say we take our chances in the draft and stick with leftwich for another year or 2.

agreed. leftwich should be the starter next year with dj as #2 and our draft pick as #3. i'd trade harrington for another pick.

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agreed. leftwich should be the starter next year with dj as #2 and our draft pick as #3. i'd trade harrington for another pick.

of course i may be wrong, but i doubt harrington has any value in a trade. before we signed him, there was speculation he was going to the cfl. also, leftwich is injury prone. i wouldn't mind him here as a backup, but you have to be able to depend on your qb for more than 6 or 7 games a season. we are in rebuilding mode, major rebuilding mode. if you're going to do that, you do that with a young qb. dennis dixon in the 2nd!

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mcnabb will probably want to play on a grass field at his new home stadium/ 8 home games..

the eagles probably won't trade him within the nfc unless the recieve a pro bowler and or a 1st.

jets or dolphins..

the nyc market is screaming for a pro bowl veteran name like mcnabb. jets.

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mcnabb will probably want to play on a grass field at his new home stadium/ 8 home games..

the eagles probably won't trade him within the nfc unless the recieve a pro bowler and or a 1st.

jets or dolphins..

the nyc market is screaming for a pro bowl veteran name like mcnabb. jets.

no mangini and tannenbaum have made it clear that kellen clemens is who they want to replace pennington. they wouldn't trade for mcnabb.

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agreed. leftwich should be the starter next year with dj as #2 and our draft pick as #3. i'd trade harrington for another pick.

1. to think that someone would give up a draft pick for harrington is laughable.

2. why are people so in love with shockley? if he had not been hurt, i doubt he would have remained on the team.

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entertaining thread.

mcnabb is just 10-11 months removed from the knife and is the 12th ranked passer in the nfl....only 5 passer rating points from ranking 5th. he isn't all the way back from his acl injury, but who would realistically expect him to be at this point? they typically take 18-24 months for full recovery. at that time he will be only 31 years old...he'll turn 32 in november, 2008.

now one can argue whether or not his injury fortunes will continue...but that's a risk for any qb. he hasn't had any problems with re-occurring injuries, he had a string of different ones. if he had the same acl injury (or other injury) repeatedly, i would understand the concern more.

would he be a long-term answer? not compared to a rookie of course....but is 4-5 years a short period of time? he could easily play until he's 36-37. that's really not unheard of for the qb position. we aren't talking about a rb here.

as for his trade value, it's too hard to speculate what he'd be worth. the 4th round pick someone mentioned is absurd. why would the eagles do that? if it's a 2nd, it would be to a team that is picking fairly high in the 2nd. the rest of this season will clear this whole thing up.

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what gas is that? the aftermath of free taco day at taco bell today??? mcnabb is done.. we need to start looking towards the future.. not wasting a 2nd round pick on him when he is gonna last a couple years if even that... there are tons of players in the second round that have way more potential then mcnabb has skill left in the tank right now.. the dude is over the hill.. he just needs to walk away.. or role away on his wheel chair when he gets hurt again soon... the young qb you speak of wouldn't be learning from another qb.. he would learn from the only person that matters.. petrino...

exactly, mcnabb is old news. we need to start fresh, let's let petrino have a chance to get a qb that he wants in his system.

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mcnabb would fit the system. he is mobile, experienced, accurate and has a strong arm. we have multiple 2nd's and if we could get him for that it would have a much more profound impact on next season than drafting a rookie in the 2nd. he would instantly bring some credibility back to the franchise and may even help to avoid t.v. blackouts like we are going to have on sunday. since we have leftwich on the roster i wouldn't be too worried about mcnabb's durability either. between the two of them we could make it through the season and into the playoffs.

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when has it ever been a good idea to do something simply because "we could do worse"?

what better options are out there? i don't think brady, manning, or palmer are going to be put on the block. mcnabb may not be there either...but his case is at least more likely.

and there are no sure-things in the draft. the former titan's gm, floyd reese, said the other day that if you miss (doesn't pan out) on a qb with a 1st round pick, it sets your franchise back 5 years, minimum.

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