halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 why does reeves get a pass for 2003 from so many while petrino seems to be getting all the blame for this season. reeves seems to get a pass because he lost vick unexpectedly. so did petrino. at least reeves had 'his players' while petrino is working with mostly players he didn't have any part in selecting. many of whom don't want to accept him as thier new boss because he's not coddling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 did you know that we still finished that season as the #14th rushing team in the nfl.and how did reeves get a pass for that season considering he was "let go" in the middle of it?how did he get a pass when he was essentially fired after winning the first game back with vick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 did you know that we still finished the season as the #14th rushing team in the nfl.and how did reeves get a pass for that season considering he was "let go" in the middle of it?yeah, the falcon's finished 14th with a younger warrick dunn , mike vick for 4 games, and lineman that fit the scheme. when i say "a pass", i mean by a large number of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signout Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 did you know that we still finished that season as the #14th rushing team in the nfl.and how did reeves get a pass for that season considering he was "let go" in the middle of it?how did he get a pass when he was essentially fired after winning the first game back with vick?the logic is rather "puzzling". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 yeah, the falcon's finished 14th with a younger warrick dunn , mike vick for 4 games, and lineman that fit the scheme. when i say "a pass", i mean by a large number of fans.scheme?what scheme? we didn't zone block. we ran a "traditional" blocking scheme. this was reeves football. dunn up the middle. over and over and over again...trust me. reeves didn't get a pass at the time. he looks better now because of the way the team collapsed the last 2 years with mora and the way the team looks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesouphead Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 why does reeves get a pass for 2003 from so many while petrino seems to be getting all the blame for this season. reeves seems to get a pass because he lost vick unexpectedly. so did petrino. at least reeves had 'his players' while petrino is working with mostly players he didn't have any part in selecting. many of whom don't want to accept him as thier new boss because he's not coddling them.reeves was fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesouphead Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 when i say "a pass", i mean by a large number of fans.possible that it was the same fans that saw reeves take the falcons to their only super bowl game in the entire 32 years that the team had been around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonymonk Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 why does reeves get a pass for 2003 from so many while petrino seems to be getting all the blame for this season. reeves seems to get a pass because he lost vick unexpectedly. so did petrino. at least reeves had 'his players' while petrino is working with mostly players he didn't have any part in selecting. many of whom don't want to accept him as thier new boss because he's not coddling them.i haven't read any posts giving the coach full blame for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 he didn't get a pass but you have to realize many on this board want to go back to him. what halsey is trying to say is that why are people screaming at coach p and asking for reeves when reeves had a better situation and only won 2 of the first 12 games that year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrews_31 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 he didn't, back in 2003. i am quite sure that most of the same people that are on here now screaming for petrino's head were on here back then screaming for reeves' head.you are dead on the money!! the big issue on the board then was that reeves could not make adjustments at halftime to keep us in the game(s). a lot of people on here wanted blood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 he didn't get a pass but you have to realize many on this board want to go back to him. what halsey is trying to say is that why are people screaming at coach p and asking for reeves when reeves had a better situation and only won 2 of the first 12 games that year?better situation?i would beg to differ. i don't know if i would say that doug johnson and kurt kittner were better options than joey harrington and chris redman...also i think this team has much better defensive personnel than that team did. do you remember the starting db tandem or ray buchanon and tyrone williams?tyrone willams quit during plays. they benched the entire secondary.i guess you could say the situation was better because the team respected reeves and would not mess with him. of course reeves had a proven nfl track record and wasn't afriad to cut players mid season. remember willie jackson and quentin mccord? reeves did have the respect/fear of nfl players. it is obvious that petrino does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 scheme?what scheme? we didn't zone block. we ran a "traditional" blocking scheme. this was reeves football. dunn up the middle. over and over and over again...trust me. reeves didn't get a pass at the time. he looks better now because of the way the team collapsed the last 2 years with mora and the way the team looks now.the lineman playing for atlanta at that time were the lineman selected by reeves. whatever scheme you want to call it, they fit what reeves wanted. dunn averagesd 5.4 ypc that year so that was obviously working pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 better situation?i would beg to differ. i don't know if i would say that doug johnson and kurt kittner were better options than joey harrington and chris redman...also i think this team has much better defensive personnel than that team did. do you remember the starting db tandem or ray buchanon and tyrone williams?tyrone willams quit during plays. they benched the entire secondary.i guess you could say the situation was better because the team respected reeves and would not mess with him. of course reeves had a proven nfl track record and wasn't afriad to cut players mid season. remember willie jackson and quentin mccord? reeves did have the respect/fear of nfl players. it is obvious that petrino does not.dan reeves had his team regadless and he chose doug johnson and it wasn't his first season. we aren't talking about the teams, we are talking about the situation and dan had only himself to hold responsible for the problems after vick went down and he didn't go down throughout the whole season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 reeves also had a healthy alge crumpler.did i mention reeves had both doug johnson and marc bulger in camp as undrafted free agents in camp in 2000 and chose to cut bulger. great choice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willwork4tackles Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 yeah, the falcon's finished 14th with a younger warrick dunn , mike vick for 4 games, and lineman that fit the scheme. when i say "a pass", i mean by a large number of fans.apparently not a large enough number of fans. in fact, i can only remember about 5 people in all of atlanta that didn't want reeves gone back then. i think your memory is failing you buddy, which sucks because i like hearing your calls on buck & kincaide everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 apparently not a large enough number of fans. in fact, i can only remember about 5 people in all of atlanta that didn't want reeves gone back then. i think your memory is failing you buddynope, my memory isn't failing me, sister. i know the calls for reeve's job were loud back then, but there are a lot of people who have changed thier tune since and call for reeves to get his job back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the atl Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 since when was getting fired before the season ended considered getting a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 since when was getting fired before the season ended considered getting a pass? it clearly says "from fans" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedsquirrl Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 dan reeves didn't get a pass.and wade phillips had no chance of getting the job because he was associated with dan reeves.2003 was when www.firedanreeves.com was in the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODDY NATION Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 reeves also had a healthy alge crumpler.did i mention reeves had both doug johnson and marc bulger in camp as undrafted free agents in camp in 2000 and chose to cut bulger. great choice....hindsight is always 20/20. you ever thought that maybe bulger didn't have the arm strength to run this offense? maybe a spread offense like martz run was a better fit. learn the fundamentals of football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the atl Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 it clearly says "from fans" doh i missed that!i think it is because most fans are casual and had a attachement to reeves while the only thing they know about bp is that some players dont like him because he is a doo-doo meanie head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the atl Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 hindsight is always 20/20. you ever thought that maybe bulger didn't have the arm strength to run this offense? maybe a spread offense like martz run was a better fit. learn the fundamentals of footballi hope thats just a typical uneducated troll post and you arnt serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 doh i missed that!i think it is because most fans are casual and had a attachement to reeves while the only thing they know about bp is that some players dont like him because he is a doo-doo meanie head.i changed the title to make it more clear. i was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halsey Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 hindsight is always 20/20. you ever thought that maybe bulger didn't have the arm strength to run this offense? maybe a spread offense like martz run was a better fit. learn the fundamentals of footballso you're saying marc bulger would have been worse than doug johnson? doug johnson has a strong arm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonfalcon Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 nope, my memory isn't failing me, sister. i know the calls for reeve's job were loud back then, but there are a lot of people who have changed thier tune since and call for reeves to get his job back.best be careful hasley, i pointed out the exact same thing and was pretty much accused of stalking!! and i agree with all you've said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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