falconfoozball Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 which games have you watched? because i didn't see redman nor dj in any of them. you don't know what your talking about.they both played in preseason. he's talking about preseason games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytrewqasdfg Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 see i would say if anyone was smart they would not place any money (smart or other wise) on anything petrino does. i will not say the norwood needs to start over dunn but warwick sure ain't up to snuff this year.. i will say that so far it sure doesn't look like petrino has a clue to waht he is doing. they are a lot of people who think petrino is going to be great for this team. i think he will be the worst thnig to happen to the falcons ever, only time will tell for sure.i said if you were forced to place a bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
columbus79 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 really?do you know what's interesting?in 2003 we still finished the year as the #14th rushing team in the league.so we finished in the top half of the nfl in rushing with bob whitfield, roberto garza(?), mcclure, forney, and weiner...and this was with doug johnson and kurt kitner as the qb's...not having vick is no excuse for the way our running game is. also switching blocking schemes is no excuse for the way the running game is now.if we could finish in the top 15 in '03 with that lineup then there's no excuse for the way things are now...exactly.the common denominator in 2003 and 2007 is warrick dunn. he has to go if the falcons are serious about providing a spark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
columbus79 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 "he (petrino) did a great job of keeping us together with all the turmoil. with anything, you have to learn. he's learning. in time, he'll get this ship turned around."--warrick dunndunn is trying to save his job by being a yes man to petrino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
columbus79 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 that's the hc's job - to evaluate talent. there was every reason to let them compete for the #2 spot. not sure about that. i didn't get to see redman play much, but i watched the game that dj got hurt in. and he was playing lights out up until the injury. or at least what i'm used to seeing as "lights out" from the falcons w/he-who. very mobile, and making plays both in the air and on the ground. btw, if there were no veteran qbs available, does that include testaverde? until yesterday, i gotta say it seemed like the panthers made a good call bringing him in as an alternative to their qb woes. why not testaverde instead of leftwich? (i mean, when it became obvious that we were going to have to sign another one.) oh yeah, one more thing... we shouldn't get rid of dunn. he's been referred to as our #3 qb in at least one statement from the falcons hc staff. warrick as our #3 qb -- that will be a disaster .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 do you really believe that? its more likely that coach p had more history with redman and felt more comfortable with him. i'd bet that redman won't be here next year and dj will.shockley was horrible in his first game. i mean baaad. he looked better in his second game, but got hurt. redman played his way to the number 2 spot. now had shock not gotten hurt, he might be our #2 as of now, but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak.the.knight Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 because, newsflash, redman outplayed shockley, and as someone else noted above, there were no veteran qbs available that we thought it prudent to sign.true, shockley was given the chance to beat redman and he couldn't do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
columbus79 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 true, shockley was given the chance to beat redman and he couldn't do so.petrino played favorites in regards to redman and thought he could get away with at shockley's expense... that selfish move hurt team unity, chemistry and compromised our 2007 season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faninmd Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 2007 didn't have to be a lost cause. petrino chose to have redman as our #2 qb. petrino allowed dunn to start even after poor performances.petrino also framed vick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyjerk Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 dunn is the major veteran domino that needs to fall. as long as he plays, it is business as usual.dunn will be back next season hes our #3 qb. by the start of next season he'll probably be the #2 qb on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faninmd Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 petrino played favorites in regards to redman and thought he could get away with at shockley's expense... that selfish move hurt team unity, chemistry and compromised our 2007 season..exactly, nothing hurts a team more than loosing your 3rd string qb for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faninmd Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 its not always the best qb than it is the system. redman most likely did better in it than dj. that's really all there is to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOYLE Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 we may not be as bad off as it appears right now. joey has shownthe ability to move the ball on long sustained drives. some of thesehave led to field goals and some of the field goals have been missed.the inability to get more carries to norwood even when he has thehot hand has been baffling. i don't care if he starts, just get him therock enough for us to win. as bad as leftwich looked in his first actionhe looked really strong in his first start. he threw deep and with goodaccuracy. our receivers returned to catching the ball after taking a week off. so i can see a rotation. if leftwich could come in and geta lead then joey could come in and burn clock. leftwich would besafe on the sideline. it could be a unique trying something like thatbut it would keep the defenses from locking in on us. it might helpleftwich to get healthy and stay available. i would like to see us tryrotating them, running norwood and giving a few reps to somebodyat middle linebacker so brooking can be "fresh". nicholas & taylorcould use a few reps. we have been in games just need a formulato win instead of lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 which games have you watched? because i didn't see redman nor dj in any of them. you don't know what your talking about.they didn't play in preseason?cuz that's when dj was hurt. since you know so much, surely you know dj wasn't 3rd string behind redman during the regular season when he was out for surgery.yeah, sure you know that, smart guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgentry162 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 if petrino had no intention of putting redman in a game, why even allow him to steal snaps from shockley in the preseason? and if he didn't like shockley, why not go after another veteran qb who has actually played? redman knew the offense and it allowed the other qb's to see how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveymonster Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 if petrino had no intention of putting redman in a game, why even allow him to steal snaps from shockley in the preseason? and if he didn't like shockley, why not go after another veteran qb who has actually played?harrington is 24-49 as a starter, but petrino had opportunities to adjust and make the tough decisions and he chose to throw the 2007 season away.the majority of the o-line that started the season was part of the best running game in the nfl the previous three years. this o-line is struggling, but our main rb isn't a very good runner..the reason there is such a change int the running game from being the best to one of the worse is not because dunn's a poor runner. it is not because vick's not here anymore either. it's because they changed blocking schemes. the 3 years of good running came under the old blocking scheme. this poor running has come under the new scheme. the o-line was better suited for the old scheme, not this new scheme. the o-line are smaller and faster which is what the old scheme called for. the new scheme calls for bigger and more powerful which our line is not. so stop blaming it on the running back. every one thinks noorwood is better then dunn, well he might be, but he isn't haveing much success too. the only exception was the 1 long run in the giants game and the 1 long run in the saints game. the line were acually able to hold for thoses exceptions. so back to what i was sayying the running problem has come because of a switch to a different blocking scheme that our o-line are not buit for, well except maybe the new guys like baylock that were picked for the new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dub Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 there is no reasonable explanation as to why dunn is still starting, and it goes beyond his lack of production. shouldn't they try and find out exactly what type of rb norwood is and what type of workload he can handle, before they go out on the market next off-season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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