JDaveG Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 note: i left out stuff re: other players from other teams.early market watch by charles robinson, yahoo! sportsoctober 25, 2007if deangelo hall hadn't forced himself onto the trading block before this week, he may have finished the job wednesday. as several high-profile players have been the recent subjects of trade speculation, including cincinnati's chad johnson and miami's jason taylor, hall criticized the atlanta falcons for cutting defensive tackle grady jackson earlier this week. the comments, coming less than a month after he was fined $100,000 for a sideline tirade directed at falcons coach bobby petrino, could be the wedge that ultimately forces the franchise to deal their prized cornerback. in a candid interview with reporters at the falcons' practice facility, hall called the team's decision to single out jackson for poor play "asinine", "ridiculous" and "ludicrous." they were the sharpest words yet from hall this season, in which the falcons have gone 1-6 and seemingly been in a spiral since quarterback michael vick's offseason federal indictment and subsequent guilty plea on dog-fighting charges. according to the atlanta journal constitution, hall also concurred with a statement made by tight end alge crumpler that the coaching staff was minimizing the role of veteran players this season. while general manager rich mckay said earlier this month that the falcons weren't interested in moving hall next offseason, this latest barrage may be cause for new consideration. it's clear hall has been unhappy with his contract since nate clements landed a deal potentially worth $80 million from the san francisco 49ers in the latest round of free agency. hall has made the past two nfc pro bowl teams. one source close to hall even raised the possibility that the cornerback would hold out of training camp until he got a new deal. that never materialized, and hall has since appeared to be unhappy for a variety of reasons. a former falcons player now with another team said the cornerback felt the franchise "kicked mike (vick) when he was down," and that he has never been on the same page as petrino. "he's not feeling (petrino)," the player told yahoo! sports this week. "they're not even talking. not at all, nothing. (deangelo) was already ######ed about his (contract) and then they fined him and that was pretty much the last straw for any relationship." asked if hall was still expressing a desire to be traded behind closed doors, the player replied, "if the denver broncos found a way to make it happen with champ (bailey), deangelo knows (the falcons) can find a way to make it happen." after wednesday, it looks more likely than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensewinscliche Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 peaze out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 hmmm. jonathan vilma wants traded too. throw in justin miller and we got a deal. we would be just as good on d after that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdofprey7 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 note: i left out stuff re: other players from other teams.early market watch by charles robinson, yahoo! sportsoctober 25, 2007if deangelo hall hadn't forced himself onto the trading block before this week, he may have finished the job wednesday. as several high-profile players have been the recent subjects of trade speculation, including cincinnati's chad johnson and miami's jason taylor, hall criticized the atlanta falcons for cutting defensive tackle grady jackson earlier this week. the comments, coming less than a month after he was fined $100,000 for a sideline tirade directed at falcons coach bobby petrino, could be the wedge that ultimately forces the franchise to deal their prized cornerback. in a candid interview with reporters at the falcons' practice facility, hall called the team's decision to single out jackson for poor play "asinine", "ridiculous" and "ludicrous." they were the sharpest words yet from hall this season, in which the falcons have gone 1-6 and seemingly been in a spiral since quarterback michael vick's offseason federal indictment and subsequent guilty plea on dog-fighting charges. according to the atlanta journal constitution, hall also concurred with a statement made by tight end alge crumpler that the coaching staff was minimizing the role of veteran players this season. while general manager rich mckay said earlier this month that the falcons weren't interested in moving hall next offseason, this latest barrage may be cause for new consideration. it's clear hall has been unhappy with his contract since nate clements landed a deal potentially worth $80 million from the san francisco 49ers in the latest round of free agency. hall has made the past two nfc pro bowl teams. one source close to hall even raised the possibility that the cornerback would hold out of training camp until he got a new deal. that never materialized, and hall has since appeared to be unhappy for a variety of reasons. a former falcons player now with another team said the cornerback felt the franchise "kicked mike (vick) when he was down," and that he has never been on the same page as petrino. "he's not feeling (petrino)," the player told yahoo! sports this week. "they're not even talking. not at all, nothing. (deangelo) was already ######ed about his (contract) and then they fined him and that was pretty much the last straw for any relationship." asked if hall was still expressing a desire to be traded behind closed doors, the player replied, "if the denver broncos found a way to make it happen with champ (bailey), deangelo knows (the falcons) can find a way to make it happen." after wednesday, it looks more likely than ever.i would str8 up trade d-hall for bailey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 not to mention solving the falcons' return game issues....i would jump on that deal in a heartbeat.how good is vilma...run stuffer? mlb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki45toryu Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 i would take vilma and a mid round pick for hall.knowing us though we will be part of a 12 team trade that somehow ends up yielding us vinny testeverde and a 6th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak.the.knight Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 i would str8 up trade d-hall for bailey!!but denver in their right mind wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 well, i like him a lot. he kind of reminds me of a ray lewis/zach thomas mlb, as he is fast, fast, fast. not a huge guy, but very effective if you can keep the lineman off of him. i just don't think he likes the 3-4 they have going up in ny, as he is much more effective in a 4-3. i think he would be a good fit for the falcons.bring em home mckay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensewinscliche Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 i would str8 up trade d-hall for bailey!!and i would trade michael jenkins straight up for randy moss... i dont think the pats would go for it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chileanrastabilly Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 oh well, meangelo! don't let the door hit 'cha! go rob from another team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 well, i like him a lot. he kind of reminds me of a ray lewis/zach thomas mlb, as he is fast, fast, fast. not a huge guy, but very effective if you can keep the lineman off of him. i just don't think he likes the 3-4 they have going up in ny, as he is much more effective in a 4-3. i think he would be a good fit for the falcons.yep, when nyj was running the 4-3, he was in the conversation any time it was about top 5 mlb in the nfl.he is a baller. he is young. he is a good guy.i would love to have him in red and black!like i said, throw in justin miller. nyj would have hall and revis, and leon washington is a good kr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 hmmm. jonathan vilma wants traded too. throw in justin miller and we got a deal. we would be just as good on d after that deal.ill second that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownorg Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 well if hall were smart. he'd shut his mouth now that he's spoke his mind. go out an play lights out football to improve his trade value & contract size since it's obvious money is what he wants.and yea, i'd love to have vilma here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachb Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 note: i left out stuff re: other players from other teams.early market watch by charles robinson, yahoo! sportsoctober 25, 2007if deangelo hall hadn't forced himself onto the trading block before this week, he may have finished the job wednesday. as several high-profile players have been the recent subjects of trade speculation, including cincinnati's chad johnson and miami's jason taylor, hall criticized the atlanta falcons for cutting defensive tackle grady jackson earlier this week. the comments, coming less than a month after he was fined $100,000 for a sideline tirade directed at falcons coach bobby petrino, could be the wedge that ultimately forces the franchise to deal their prized cornerback. in a candid interview with reporters at the falcons' practice facility, hall called the team's decision to single out jackson for poor play "asinine", "ridiculous" and "ludicrous." they were the sharpest words yet from hall this season, in which the falcons have gone 1-6 and seemingly been in a spiral since quarterback michael vick's offseason federal indictment and subsequent guilty plea on dog-fighting charges. according to the atlanta journal constitution, hall also concurred with a statement made by tight end alge crumpler that the coaching staff was minimizing the role of veteran players this season. while general manager rich mckay said earlier this month that the falcons weren't interested in moving hall next offseason, this latest barrage may be cause for new consideration. it's clear hall has been unhappy with his contract since nate clements landed a deal potentially worth $80 million from the san francisco 49ers in the latest round of free agency. hall has made the past two nfc pro bowl teams. one source close to hall even raised the possibility that the cornerback would hold out of training camp until he got a new deal. that never materialized, and hall has since appeared to be unhappy for a variety of reasons. a former falcons player now with another team said the cornerback felt the franchise "kicked mike (vick) when he was down," and that he has never been on the same page as petrino. "he's not feeling (petrino)," the player told yahoo! sports this week. "they're not even talking. not at all, nothing. (deangelo) was already ######ed about his (contract) and then they fined him and that was pretty much the last straw for any relationship." asked if hall was still expressing a desire to be traded behind closed doors, the player replied, "if the denver broncos found a way to make it happen with champ (bailey), deangelo knows (the falcons) can find a way to make it happen." after wednesday, it looks more likely than ever.i would consider looking for a trading partner within the article. if derrick anderson continues to thrive in cleveland, i would strongly consider a package that would trad hall and a pick for d.a. and mabye leigh bodden or devon holly. we would get alot of youth (holly's in his 3rd year iirc, bodden in 4th year, and da is only 25) and a strong arm qb with a quick release to avoid the sack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozoatl Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 a former falcons player now with another team said the cornerback felt the franchise "kicked mike (vick) when he was down," and that he has never been on the same page as petrino."he's not feeling (petrino)," the player told yahoo! sports this week. "they're not even talking. not at all, nothing. (deangelo) was already ######ed about his (contract) and then they fined him and that was pretty much the last straw for any relationship."and this was right after hall said he had made a mistake, and he would accept any punishment or fine levied. then he cries to the nflpa about his fine (which was huge, but so was his tirade)asked if hall was still expressing a desire to be traded behind closed doors, the player replied, "if the denver broncos found a way to make it happen with champ (bailey), deangelo knows (the falcons) can find a way to make it happen."this in no way suggests a trade w/denver for bailey. it is just a comparison made by hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 i would consider looking for a trading partner within the article. if derrick anderson continues to thrive in cleveland, i would strongly consider a package that would trad hall and a pick for d.a. and mabye leigh bodden or devon holly. we would get alot of youth (holly's in his 3rd year iirc, bodden in 4th year, and da is only 25) and a strong arm qb with a quick release to avoid the sack!i dont think you would need to throw a pick in there at all. i am not sold on anderson enough to trade hall for him. i think leigh bodden is a very good cb though. i could live with bodden and anderson for hall, but think we could do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachb Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 i dont think you would need to throw a pick in there at all. i am not sold on anderson enough to trade hall for him. i think leigh bodden is a very good cb though. i could live with bodden and anderson for hall, but think we could do better.notice i said if da continues to play well. i'm not completely convinced, but if he finishes the season as he started it, that would be great. i don't think you'd be able to get a qb and shutdown cb for a shutdown cb, though. i think the pick would have to be included...especially as savvy as savage is and how he covets picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yippiefan Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 don't let the door hit 'cha where the good lord split 'cha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yippie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!go falcons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee_q Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 just be another stupid move by the falcons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 notice i said if da continues to play well. i'm not completely convinced, but if he finishes the season as he started it, that would be great. i don't think you'd be able to get a qb and shutdown cb for a shutdown cb, though. i think the pick would have to be included...especially as savvy as savage is and how he covets picks.didnt notice you said if. i dont know that bodden is a shutdown corner, but he is good.right now cle is having issues on defense. i think it is mainly up front though. they are weak all across the dl imo.i think cle would like to have anderson there to compete w/ quinn next year for the job, but they also know they want quinn as their future, and that they will lose anderson if they dont trade him as a rfa. i just dont know how anderson would do behind our line. they are giving him good protection. he isnt mobile at all. he is like a brick back there. but when he gets time, he makes the throws, and is not afraid to sling the ball downfield.all i know is a trade like this would be weird for me being a falcons and browns fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 if you trade dhall, you need to get a pro-bowl dt or ol. otherwise, we would kill ourselves . maybe a vilma with a 3rd rounder, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachb Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 if you trade dhall, you need to get a pro-bowl dt or ol. otherwise, we would kill ourselves . maybe a vilma with a 3rd rounder, who knows?why do that? if you get a good qb and db and then you draft jake long, you have just upgraded 2 positions significantly and about equal at the db spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachb Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 just be another stupid move by the falcons...yeah, that team chemistry and selfless attitude are sooooo overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voiceofreasoning Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 i sa we get rid of hall, crump, and dunn... plus all those vets that aren't performing then we'll finally have a real team with real team chemistry. we may not be competitive for 2-3 years but at least our players would be quiet.it would make the seasons so much more enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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