nickelplated38 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 hurting worse on o-line. anybody with any football knowledge that is watching the games can see that o-line is the weakest link. please spare me the "anybody with any football knowledge" crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfoozball Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i think he will probably have to wear this special support shoe once he gets back... maybe even on both feet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelplated38 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 first of all, even if we have a top 3 pick the value is right:even if you are right and long is the 5th best player, we still need to take him. there isn't much of a difference between 3rd and 5th. some draft sites had levi brown ranked in the teens but the cards still wisely took him at #5 because they needed o-line help bad. our o-line problems are the reason we are hurting so bad at qb and rb. with a solid o-line leftwich/harrington could get the job done and so could dunn/norwood.with all due respect...you are hopeless... you're even trying to legitimize us leaving more talented players on the board for your man-crush...you aren't proving anything, i can say that with a solid qb/rb our ol could get the job done too...if you notice the ol wasn't as big of a problem with #7 was back there, and barry sanders still was a premiere player behind those porous lions' lines...see? it goes both ways...we need to draft the best player we can whether he be qb, rb, or ol. we need to acquire the biggest upgrade we can at any of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va~falcon Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i hate to say it, but i watch more football on sat. than sun. cause all i can think about is who to draft next year. we only have one or two brilliant plays a game (roddy making a nice catch, or jerious getting the ball 4 out of 24 carries and taking it twice as many yards as dunn.) i'm so glad roddy is "emerging" this year, and with medioker passing. also, the only thing i can think is petrino and dunn have a deal: dunn gets this year to show petrino that he can be the no. 1 back. only cause he's on his way out and probably won't get many more chances. with our o-line, we can't run anything up the middle, but there goes dunn every other down straight into a scrum head down like he's jamal lewis or deuce, then "stuck". with jerious, at least every 3rd play you get 10-20 yards. dunn is and awsome guy, and i'm glad they gave him another shot, but the last few games they should see how norwood does with the lead spot. plus, norwoods got jesus power jerious connerly trophy and he's got crazy footwork. his best blockers are the wideouts if he can just get past the o-line. anyway, i love the guy. i could ramble on for days, hope i'm not boring anyone. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va~falcon Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 first of all, even if we have a top 3 pick the value is right:even if you are right and long is the 5th best player, we still need to take him. there isn't much of a difference between 3rd and 5th. some draft sites had levi brown ranked in the teens but the cards still wisely took him at #5 because they needed o-line help bad. our o-line problems are the reason we are hurting so bad at qb and rb. with a solid o-line leftwich/harrington could get the job done and so could dunn/norwood.maybe, but you can get the number one o-line guys in the 3rd and 4th round anyway, number one pick should be the most confident qb in college football, the best leader we can find. then pick two, get a deuce for norwood. dunn is "done" and norwood is our scat back. we would do so much better with a fb size back, and norwood with the latter taking most of the carries and the big guy taking the 3rd down and short carries. just my thoughts (plus fb thing was petrino's idea from the start) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 guys relax!we have sooo many holes in soooo many places we'll get value no matter who we pick.besides if we get a qb he has to show improvement in 2 years.how long do you think blank will keep petrino around if he keeps giving us 2-3 win seasons?it's not like atlanta has the most loyal fans to begin with and i think it's safe to say there will no longer be a season ticket waiting list.blank wants to sell tickets and the only thing he can do to generate interest is change coaches because if he does draft a franchise qb and they don't show improvement in 2-3 years then guess what blank will do?then there's also the cost of signing a qb in the top 3. how much did russel and johnson get paid again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_Hal Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 i just heard a report that said the falcons "hope to have him back by the end of the season". why all of the secrecy? just tell us what the deal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonsfan Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i just heard a report that said the falcons "hope to have him back by the end of the season". why all of the secrecy? just tell us what the deal is.i'm guessing it is because they really don't know. some people can recover sufficiently from high ankle sprains in four weeks or so...others take much, much longer. in some instances, surgery is required. given his history with ankle problems (and the fact that, everytime he throws, his right foot is off the ground - making him more susceptible to injury of that leg), the team probably doesn't have the first idea when he may be cleared to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 you aren't proving anything, i can say that with a solid qb/rb our ol could get the job done too... out of sheer, morbid curiosity, what have you seen out of this group in the last 4 years to give you that impression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoal Brother Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 how long until he is back? any word from the falcons yet?its official, he bruised his ovaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 sorry, no such thing. if you want a franchise lt you have to use a first in most cases (see walter jones, orlando pace, joe thomas, etc...)how many of those are on the patriots and the colts? how about the steelers? the truth is, you don't need a #1 ot pick to be #1. even still, it takes 2 yrs minimum to get a qb ready for the nfl. you can put in an ot/og/c right away. why not get a qb this year and then get a new ot next year? if you get an ot this year we will have to wait another year to draft and then another year to start the qb.its official, he bruised his ovaries. good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 13 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 its official, he bruised his ovaries. now that's funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoal Brother Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i'm all for having a qb who can throw the ball a mile. however we do need him to make it through one game without being helped off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridson Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 why would we take a lineman and let joey be the qb for another season, only to be in the same predicament next year. we can sign a franchise tackle in fa or take one or two in the second round (this draft is deep at the position. look at the colts, pats and cowboys. they have one first round tackle between them, and he was taken at the end of the first round). not taking a qb will just slow down the rebuilding process. harrington sucks too bad to be given the starting job again next year, and i'm afraid leftwich is too brittle.if we get a qb they'll be ruined behind this line. the best thing to do is to draft a o lineman first and bring in a couple veterans on the o-line to help the young guys. thats what indy, jax and new england did when they built their line. also we should get a physical rb and have shockley or a young qb work with harrington or another veteran if the team goes out and gets a fa. any young qb in our system will end up like harrington, carr, andrew walter etc, because they'll get frustrated with no blocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridson Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 sadly after watching the hits he took in that sequence yesterday i'd be surprised if byron comes back this year...also after he tried to come back to the sideline he had to be put back on the cart again...to me that seems more along the lines of serious damage and not just a "sprain". "sprains" end up with a guy on the sidelines watching, not leaving the stadium in a boot cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_winger Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 leftwich took a nasty, twisting hit. i normally say to let the boys play football, but that hit/tackle had mean written all over it. the saints were losing, and they knew how to get back in the game - by taking #4 out.i was pleasantly surprised by how well b was leading this team. i got my hopes up that we'd not be in last place after 4:00, only to have them dashed - again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dub Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 to whoever wrote we should sign a franchise lt in free agency...it doesn't work that way. they're not there. teams keep their franchise lt's. if you look to add a lt through fa or trade, you'll end up with a gandy type of player. you might get something decent or even good, but if you want someone who can really be a staple for your o-line and elevate their play to a higher level, then i think you need to hit on a great draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 the fact that they went back and said he needed an mri isn't good.good news doesn't need a second opinion.with the way this season has gone i'm thinking he's done for the season...yep it's been that type of season.. just a bad bad season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachb Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 maybe, but you can get the number one o-line guys in the 3rd and 4th round anyway, number one pick should be the most confident qb in college football, the best leader we can find. then pick two, get a deuce for norwood. dunn is "done" and norwood is our scat back. we would do so much better with a fb size back, and norwood with the latter taking most of the carries and the big guy taking the 3rd down and short carries. just my thoughts (plus fb thing was petrino's idea from the start)i'm sorry, but you rarely get a franchise lt in the 3rd or 4th round. why would anyone want to put the curtains in the window before building a foundation is confusing. if you draft a rb or qb, they will be killed and possibly ruined. look at the history of this type situation. tim couch in cleveland, ryan leaf in san diego, david carr in houston are just three quick examples of not building the foundation before going for the pretty boy.add to that just how deep the qb position is this year. draft long in the 1st. the last few years a very good top 5 pick qb has dropped into the low 1st round. if necessary, trade up and take your qb in the late 1st. then in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. you then get depth and ol prospects. keep in mind that later round picks only have a 50% success rate. i don't want to entrust a potential franchise qb to those type of odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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