Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i am kidding but there are some people that blamed harrington for everything....they claimed the qb was responsible for the kicker missing kicks, stupid penalties (hall for example), dropped passes, etc. etc.....all the blame went on harrington.......so.....where are you now? we lost once again....different qb....blame him too.i thought you were idiots for blaming harrington for team play, and if you don't blame leftwich the same, then what are you?leftwich played a good game....harrington played a good game....harrington has played well for the most part this season....as i and several other's have said.....it will not matter who is behind the line, they will both perform about equally....we have other issues that must be fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex11 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 yes like our defensive leader tackling his own teammate like a blind, idiotic fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlumberGuy Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 and dunn running like he's got thorns in his feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts69 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 idiotic fools! everyone. no bl did good but ######. we're all fools, **** it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 idiotic fools! everyone. no bl did good but ######. we're all fools, **** it.you sound like stewie from family guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmj Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 nice to see some objectivity. last i remember, it takes a team, not one player, to win or lose a game. now, i understand that a bonehead play in a close game by one player causing a penalty or turnover can result in a win or loss, but compare tom brady this year with top notch receivers vs last year with mediocre receivers and you can see why he's lighting it up. the falcons are like a scrabble game, when you can't make good words you forfeit a move, dump your 7 tiles for new ones, and hope you improve. maybe that's what they should do with their lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantownfalc Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 joey still took almost half snaps this game. so he helped lose it too. leftwich is 0-.5harrington is 1-5.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reservoirdog Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 we lost because once again we had no ground game outside of the six carries norwood got, and because brooking had a worse performance by a falcon's linebacker than any game hartwell ever played in. that we were able to pass the ball says nothing about either leftwich or harrington, the saints have a horrible secondary that anyone can pass on, that we couldn't run on them was the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbyr Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i am kidding but there are some people that blamed harrington for everything....they claimed the qb was responsible for the kicker missing kicks, stupid penalties (hall for example), dropped passes, etc. etc.....all the blame went on harrington.......so.....where are you now? we lost once again....different qb....blame him too.i thought you were idiots for blaming harrington for team play, and if you don't blame leftwich the same, then what are you?leftwich played a good game....harrington played a good game....harrington has played well for the most part this season....as i and several other's have said.....it will not matter who is behind the line, they will both perform about equally....we have other issues that must be fixed.where were you?people wanted hall cut saying he was a thug, they also ripped into prater for shanking every kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reservoirdog Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 where were you?people wanted hall cut saying he was a thug, they also ripped into prater for shanking every kick.i still want to trade hall and invest his cap money into the front seven like and elite nfl team would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twright21 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 we lost because once again we had no ground game outside of the six carries norwood got, and because brooking had a worse performance by a falcon's linebacker than any game hartwell ever played in. that we were able to pass the ball says nothing about either leftwich or harrington, the saints have a horrible secondary that anyone can pass on, that we couldn't run on them was the problem.hartwell played a game??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jncsystems2 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 thats bull , joey took about 16 fewer snaps and was trailing entering the game. the falcons have numerous problems on offense , bl just brings a stronger arm to the game that he couldnt consistantly use because of the constant pressure - basically he had to do similar things joey has been doing - dumping it off - and when he didnt he got drilled . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontknow Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 thats bull , joey took about 16 fewer snaps and was trailing entering the game. the falcons have numerous problems on offense , bl just brings a stronger arm to the game that he couldnt consistantly use because of the constant pressure - basically he had to do similar things joey has been doing - dumping it off - and when he didnt he got drilled .the announcers said it best, bl attacks parts of the field that joey can only dream about. the guy was throwing lasers downfield, he wasn't throwing little 5 yd patterns the whole game and waiting for the wrs to get some yac. i am rooting for joey, he seems like a nice guy, i hope he can turn his career around. the perception of him is that he's not a starting qb, and i don't think he is. he's a good backup, but his leadership skills have always been questioned, and the team did seem to rally behind bl early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 and dunn running like he's got thorns in his feet i honestly don't think that qb play is anywhere near our weakest elements.....and....that is with either harrington or leftwich behind center....both are equally good....both will put up similar stats.....the three major differences are: harrington is more accurate due to his more conservative play, leftwich has a stronger arm and more willing to throw it deep, leftwich is more injury prone.our weakest area's are:1) stupid penalties2) offensive line play3) poor punt return 4) play calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 joey still took almost half snaps this game. so he helped lose it too. leftwich is 0-.5harrington is 1-5.5what??? bs!!! you did not want to give any blame on leftwich for the tenn game, now all of a sudden, you want to include harrington into this loss......so typicalthe truth is....they both played good ball in this game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jncsystems2 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i honestly don't think that qb play is anywhere near our weakest elements.....and....that is with either harrington or leftwich behind center....both are equally good....both will put up similar stats.....the three major differences are: harrington is more accurate due to his more conservative play, leftwich has a stronger arm and more willing to throw it deep, leftwich is more injury prone.our weakest area's are:1) stupid penalties2) offensive line play3) poor punt return 4) play callingi would put playcalling number 1 - i expected much more from petrino , but he playcalls like someone has his nuts in a vice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 where were you?people wanted hall cut saying he was a thug, they also ripped into prater for shanking every kick.where was i??? how about defending harrington's play those games against the boneheads (jh haters / bl lovers) that wanted to put all the blame for every game on harrington......please don't tell me that you don't remember those nimwits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 the announcers said it best, bl attacks parts of the field that joey can only dream about. the guy was throwing lasers downfield, he wasn't throwing little 5 yd patterns the whole game and waiting for the wrs to get some yac. i am rooting for joey, he seems like a nice guy, i hope he can turn his career around. the perception of him is that he's not a starting qb, and i don't think he is. he's a good backup, but his leadership skills have always been questioned, and the team did seem to rally behind bl early on.ok....just out of curiousity....what was bl's ypc average in this game? what was harrington's in this game? hmmm....i will do the research myself....brbleftwich 15 completions for 145 yards for a 9.67 averageharrington 12 completions for 128 yards for a 10.67 averagethe announcers did say that...and leftwich will try to zip the ball into tight spots because of arm strength....but, overall, their performance and stats are very similar...the biggest difference is that harrington tends to get up everytime after being hit and with leftwich, you have to hold your breath when he gets hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 i would put playcalling number 1 - i expected much more from petrino , but he playcalls like someone has his nuts in a vice.that penalty that gave us a 4th down and 12 hurt......but i still think petrino needed to go for it.....bad call on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 the announcers said it best, bl attacks parts of the field that joey can only dream about. the guy was throwing lasers downfield, he wasn't throwing little 5 yd patterns the whole game and waiting for the wrs to get some yac.why can't people see that makes a difference??byron was decisive, the team was responding.and reaching for the stat page proves nothing about the intangibles.edit: and i'm not faulting joey.again, i believe he was doing the best he could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 why can't people see that makes a difference??byron was decisive, the team was responding.and reaching for the stat page proves nothing about the intangibles.rounz....my point is.....qb play is not the issue on this team....it never has been....there have been many other issues that should be given priority.....many of us have said this from the very beginning......but there have been a select few people on this board that wanted to pin every single mistake by others on the team on the qb.....some blamed harrington for anything, even if harrington was not on the field.....my point is....where are those same people? they should be on the site blaming leftwich....unless their whole reasoning was only race motivated.....because it definately was not football related....those people in my opinion did not know squat about the game.....rounz with you, i accepted your opinion......let's give leftwich a chance and see if he throws the deep ball...if it opens the defense up thus possibly helping the run......i can accept your reasoning......i just can not accept some other i.d.i.o.t.s. reasoning for obvious wrong reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 rounz....my point is.....qb play is not the issue on this team....it never has been....there have been many other issues that should be given priority.....many of us have said this from the very beginning......but there have been a select few people on this board that wanted to pin every single mistake by others on the team on the qb.....some blamed harrington for anything, even if harrington was not on the field.....my point is....where are those same people? they should be on the site blaming leftwich....unless their whole reasoning was only race motivated.....because it definately was not football related....those people in my opinion did not know squat about the game.....rounz with you, i accepted your opinion......let's give leftwich a chance and see if he throws the deep ball...if it opens the defense up thus possibly helping the run......i can accept your reasoning......i just can not accept some other i.d.i.o.t.s. reasoning for obvious wrong reasons.oh, ok, rodney.i guess i didn't know what you were responding to.and i agree, we still should have won this game after byron went down.if it's not the penalties, it's the injuries.and if it's not the injuries, it's the players getting in the way of each other on a crucial stop.it seems like we just can't get a break this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reservoirdog Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i stand by my original belief that harrington is a terrible quarterback and always will be, and leftwich is a mediocre quarterback that can't stay on the field. leftwich was clearly the superior option to harrington, they had similar stats, but leftwich was the one that got us into the end zone with a powerful throw between defenders that harrington would not have completed. leftwich is the only one that is actually going to make those plays in the red zone, harrington doesn't have the vision and arm strength to put the ball into the tight places when the receiver is open, he's a mechanical quarterback and the very limited success he has had so far has been the result of the system getting the receivers open in space and the receivers making the plays. our condition will not improve with harrington, while leftwich, when healthy, can give us a glimpse of what this offense would look like with a real quarterback, though we need someone with more touch and mobility than leftwich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monson007 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 but the truth is also that joey is the better quarterback. leftwich did not survive. i knew he would not and posted the information several days ago. lefwich managed a whole 145 yards of passing. he was 15 of 23. his play was okay but as i said, the better quarterback is one that can play a full game. with an offensive line as bad as the falcons, there was no way that leftwich was going to survive the game and he did not. he never will if he has to be behind the line that atlanta fields. harrington scrambles better so he can survive.i agree with the original poster who points out, that the team as a whole is the problem. blaiming joey for everything like petrino did and all the other stupid people out there did was a terrbile thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reservoirdog Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 but the truth is also that joey is the better quarterback. leftwich did not survive. i knew he would not and posted the information several days ago. lefwich managed a whole 145 yards of passing. he was 15 of 23. his play was okay but as i said, the better quarterback is one that can play a full game. with an offensive line as bad as the falcons, there was no way that leftwich was going to survive the game and he did not. he never will if he has to be behind the line that atlanta fields. harrington scrambles better so he can survive.i agree with the original poster who points out, that the team as a whole is the problem. blaiming joey for everything like petrino did and all the other stupid people out there did was a terrbile thing to do.so we would have been better off with three field goals and two turnovers from harrington, seeing as how with the all-out blitzes new orleans was throwing at us early that harrington was going to take a shot whether he threw the ball or not, and we all know what happens after the first couple times harrington hits the turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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