ggarcia Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 what do the qb prospects bring to the table that harrington, leftwich and shockley do not? please be serious and refrain from using cliches like "winning attitude" or "gutsy" or "all he does is win." harrington's college career was top notch. jh, bl and djs all have more "nfl" experience with petrino's offense than any of the college kids. so, why are we all so obsessed with drafting a qb in the first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btrain5489 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 what do the qb prospects bring to the table that harrington, leftwich and shockley do not? please be serious and refrain from using cliches like "winning attitude" or "gutsy" or "all he does is win." harrington's college career was top notch. jh, bl and djs all have more "nfl" experience with petrino's offense than any of the college kids. so, why are we all so obsessed with drafting a qb in the first round?because there are just enough loud (read very active) posters here that think football is all about the qb and the other 10 players don't really play a role in the success of the team.maybe we should trade the first pick in this draft, a top 5 in next year's draft, and a top 10 the year after that for peyton manning. we'd be awesome then. championship! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons faithful Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 see this topichttp://boards.atlantafalcons.com/index.php?showtopic=276327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
july425 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 very good point. both bl and jh are high draft picks. our run blocking and pass protection is poo poo. drafting a qb in the 1st makes no sense at all and would simply be an excuse for arthur to plaster up new billboards of said qb and raise ticket prices again.i believe that too, and honestly believe that's whats gonna happen anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 what do the qb prospects bring to the table that harrington, leftwich and shockley do not? please be serious and refrain from using cliches like "winning attitude" or "gutsy" or "all he does is win." harrington's college career was top notch. jh, bl and djs all have more "nfl" experience with petrino's offense than any of the college kids. so, why are we all so obsessed with drafting a qb in the first round?i agree with you. it would be stupid to draft any of these qbs. the qb position is the last thing we need in next years draft considering the bust potential of them. if we need a qb in the draft its two or three years down the road. dj shockley or joey harrington can be good players when they get some talent around them. that said joey had his shot at being the starter and its dj shockleys turn to steer the ship next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pit&atlfan81 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 what do the qb prospects bring to the table that harrington, leftwich and shockley do not? please be serious and refrain from using cliches like "winning attitude" or "gutsy" or "all he does is win." harrington's college career was top notch. jh, bl and djs all have more "nfl" experience with petrino's offense than any of the college kids. so, why are we all so obsessed with drafting a qb in the first round?qb, along w/ol, are our top needs in this next draft. period. end of story.and to think we don't need to draft a qb is only kidding yourself or you need to pull your head out of your azz and see the light b/c harrington, leftwich, nor shockley is the answer.i agree with you. it would be stupid to draft any of these qbs. the qb position is the last thing we need in next years draft considering the bust potential of them.i stopped reading after this. stupid, ignorant post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdonawire Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 correct. let's compare how we are doing at each position:qb: we have 2 former high 1st round pick qbs with nfl experience signed to 2 year contractsot: we have a 35 year old ot out with a season (and possibly career) ending injury and a udfa rookie who can't handle speed rushers well. we are also one of the worst in the nfl at run blocking and pass protection.we are way worse off at lt than qb. a franchise lt would help this team more than anything else.i have nothing against you but this is the 1st time i have actually agreed with one of your posts. we are making progress already. see my signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 correct. let's compare how we are doing at each position:qb: we have 2 former high 1st round pick qbs with nfl experience signed to 2 year contractsot: we have a 35 year old ot out with a season (and possibly career) ending injury and a udfa rookie who can't handle speed rushers well. we are also one of the worst in the nfl at run blocking and pass protection.we are way worse off at lt than qb. a franchise lt would help this team more than anything else. they are below average. who cares if they have nfl experience? harrington esspecially. atleast byron has more career td's than int's. since tim couch and ryan leaf have nfl experience, should we signed one of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosedaddy70 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 correct. let's compare how we are doing at each position:qb: we have 2 former high 1st round pick qbs with nfl experience signed to 2 year contractsot: we have a 35 year old ot out with a season (and possibly career) ending injury and a udfa rookie who can't handle speed rushers well. we are also one of the worst in the nfl at run blocking and pass protection.we are way worse off at lt than qb. a franchise lt would help this team more than anything else.you know, guarantee me that any of these guys will be good or great in the nfl. you can't and neither can anyone else. there has always been a debate as to whether a team should draft for need or for best player available and the falcons have made a great number of mistakes over the years. this past year was the best, top to bottom, that they have ever done and i have faith that they can do it again next year.this is not a quick fix team here. we have many holes to fill and i believe that our front office and scouts will pick the best player available and will go out in fa and try to bring in guys that will help us. if they draft brohm, then that is the best guy or if they draft long or mcfadden or whoever its the best guy for us. i believe in this team and i know that i have to have patience. you all should know that too. i mean, after all, we are falcons fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pit&atlfan81 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 i don't disagree that the falcons need a qb, but i completely disagree that it should be the first pick for them in the draft next year. imho, they have to address the huge hole at lt first and foremost. once that is solidfied, and with as deep as the qb class is coming out next year, i see no reason why they couldn't look at a qb with one of their second round picks.i can live w/that. as long as qb is one of our first 3 picks or day 1 pick i'm happy. but we need qb and ol our first 3 picks, in any order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pit&atlfan81 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 dude we have qbs that could kill in this offense if they had a line. we need dt( glenn dorsey) 2 ots. fix the trenches. the war is won in the trenches. dj or byron can lead the offense, and if they suck, we can get dante culpepper, until we trade for another qb, or the 2009 draft.dj ain't the answer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggarcia Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 very good point. both bl and jh are high draft picks. our run blocking and pass protection is poo poo. drafting a qb in the 1st makes no sense at all and would simply be an excuse for arthur to plaster up new billboards of said qb and raise ticket prices again.exactly. since blank purchased the team, he has been desperate for the pr splash. remember the whole pearless price trade? good lord, blank had a video made of vick hooking up with price and then played it for price on the screens at the dome. it was all about marketting with him.after the vick debacle, blank has been quiet and i think that he is going to let mckay and petrino call the shots.......he should have done that with reeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggarcia Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 qb, along w/ol, are our top needs in this next draft. period. end of story.and to think we don't need to draft a qb is only kidding yourself or you need to pull your head out of your azz and see the light b/c harrington, leftwich, nor shockley is the answer.i stopped reading after this. stupid, ignorant post.you like to insult a lot don't you? you make a statement then back it up by saying "period." your posts have no validity unless you can show your reasoning. i hope that i am not using words that are too big for you. if you want to be a part of the discussion, back up your opinions with reasoning, logic and facts. otherwise, you are just a troll.harrington plays well, when he has time. he can not buy more time by scrambling.....that is his fault. if you compare the time manning and brady get to complete a pass to the time harrington gets, you begin to understand the true problem. maybe leftwich is the answer, i don't know. maybe shockley can become the ideal qb for pertino.....again, i don't know. you tell me why you think that brohm, ryan or woodward will definitely be better in this offense (with this ol) than jh, bl or even shockley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrage Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 i agree with you. it would be stupid to draft any of these qbs. the qb position is the last thing we need in next years draft considering the bust potential of them. if we need a qb in the draft its two or three years down the road. dj shockley or joey harrington can be good players when they get some talent around them. that said joey had his shot at being the starter and its dj shockleys turn to steer the ship next year.are you kidding me? you can't be scared to draft a certain position just because of the "bust potential." every player drafted at every position has bust potential. if we're too scared to draft people then we might as well trade all of our picks away like the redskins do every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_falcons74 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 if you are not going to go with a qb in the first round...you'd better get a legitimate power rusher to go along with the ol help.furthermore...i want to say that if neither leftwich or harrington can get it together this season...then not picking a qb in the 1st round would be a big mistake! if they have less than 4 seconds to throw the ball...then sure its the ol. otherwise...i want to see some progress.lets just see how they do from here on out...shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunna777 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 qb, along w/ol, are our top needs in this next draft. period. end of story.and to think we don't need to draft a qb is only kidding yourself or you need to pull your head out of your azz and see the light b/c harrington, leftwich, nor shockley is the answer.i stopped reading after this. stupid, ignorant post.no, you make the stupid, ignorant posts thinking you know everything about what we need...ive seen it in the d&fa forum... if mocks dont draft matt ryan or said qb in round 1, they are not worthlooking at blah blah blah. as far as im concerned when you post like this, your comments arnt worth lookingat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pick_6 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 a good o-line will make any qb look good. with that said, we should go with jake long in the first, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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