oxygencube Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i am starting to wonder if patrino and co. have given up on this season and are just testing out players for next year. they are giving our qb's a shot, i think that leftwich will start for 5 games then they will give redman a shot to see if we will need to draft a qb. i also think that they are conserving norwood's legs/health for next year. they have been rotating rookies and other players in quite a bit. i know this might be a reach but i think they have given up on this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i am starting to wonder if patrino and co. have given up on this season and are just testing out players for next year. they are giving our qb's a shot, i think that leftwich will start for 5 games then they will give redman a shot to see if we will need to draft a qb. i also think that they are conserving norwood's legs/health for next year. they have been rotating rookies and other players in quite a bit. i know this might be a reach but i think they have given up on this year. i don't know if he is looking at next year, or just trying to find some combination of players to give us a spark.but i think pretty soon he will be focused on next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 starting leftwich is the final desperation move before he gives up on the season.i think you're right, bart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxygencube Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 i think you're right, bart. yea i guess so. if leftwich doesn't play well will he go to redman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipp78 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 never thought about it that way...it could be possible i mean it is frustrating to see norwood get so few touches but maybe petrino does really wanna save him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxygencube Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 i just think that in the next 2-3 games we will know if this is the case. i honestly think that he is just trying to figure out where we should spend out draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mv4mvp Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i am starting to wonder if patrino and co. have given up on this season and are just testing out players for next year. they are giving our qb's a shot, i think that leftwich will start for 5 games then they will give redman a shot to see if we will need to draft a qb. i also think that they are conserving norwood's legs/health for next year. they have been rotating rookies and other players in quite a bit. i know this might be a reach but i think they have given up on this year. i think he knows that he has a lot of personnel to replace over the next couple of years and he is taking the present and future into consideration when he puts his players on the field. for instance, joe horn and alge crumpler probably do not fit into his long term plans but roddy white seems to have a bright future. i think norwood is a much different story. i think that norwood from day one has been a back that hasn't fit his plans for this offense but he is realising that jerious is a rare talent that you have to figure out how to use. he just hasn't came up with a good plan yet for doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev2000 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 starting leftwich is the final desperation move before he gives up on the season.no, that desperation move came when they started joey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev2000 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 yea i guess so. if leftwich doesn't play well will he go to redman?who else is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev2000 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 never thought about it that way...it could be possible i mean it is frustrating to see norwood get so few touches but maybe petrino does really wanna save himwho really knows what lerks in the hearts and minds of coaches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i just think that in the next 2-3 games we will know if this is the case. i honestly think that he is just trying to figure out where we should spend out draft picks.agreed. why not use all your resources available to turn this ship around? atleast he's not leaving sanders in there to get torched every play like mora did with webster and rossum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev2000 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i just think that in the next 2-3 games we will know if this is the case. i honestly think that he is just trying to figure out where we should spend out draft picks.i think the coach is trying to figure out how he got here in the first place. one moment he's the king of college football ...... the next ..... he's the footstoole of the pro's ......... hang in there coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i think he knows that he has a lot of personnel to replace over the next couple of years and he is taking the present and future into consideration when he puts his players on the field. for instance, joe horn and alge crumpler probably do not fit into his long term plans but roddy white seems to have a bright future. i think norwood is a much different story. i think that norwood from day one has been a back that hasn't fit his plans for this offense but he is realising that jerious is a rare talent that you have to figure out how to use. he just hasn't came up with a good plan yet for doing it.good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev2000 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 starting leftwich is the final desperation move before he gives up on the season.bart, you've taken too many blows to the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i think he knows that he has a lot of personnel to replace over the next couple of years and he is taking the present and future into consideration when he puts his players on the field. for instance, joe horn and alge crumpler probably do not fit into his long term plans but roddy white seems to have a bright future. i think norwood is a much different story. i think that norwood from day one has been a back that hasn't fit his plans for this offense but he is realising that jerious is a rare talent that you have to figure out how to use. he just hasn't came up with a good plan yet for doing it.joe horn i can understand but why not alge?alge is a really good te but petrino's "system" doesn't really use tight ends so he has to go? i really don't know about petrino and the front office anymore...how do you go into the season thinking our kicking situation was fine?how do you not know that the o-line is this bad before the season starts?so either we have major incompetence or we're taking a dive on purpose. nice, so in the 2-3 years that petrino will stay he will completely dismantle the roster and then when he leaves we'll have another team full of garbage players that fit a specific system that we don't use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burtonrdbird Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 starting leftwich is the final desperation move before he gives up on the season.agreed. bp is just in a bad spot. you have fans with no patience or logic, no offensive line, and no qb. i think zimmer should do the same with the defense becuase they will be burned out in a couple of more weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mv4mvp Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 joe horn i can understand but why not alge?alge is a really good te but petrino's "system" doesn't really use tight ends so he has to go? i really don't know about petrino and the front office anymore...how do you go into the season thinking our kicking situation was fine?how do you not know that the o-line is this bad before the season starts?so either we have major incompetence or we're taking a dive on purpose. nice, so in the 2-3 years that petrino will stay he will completely dismantle the roster and then when he leaves we'll have another team full of garbage players that fit a specific system that we don't use.you hit the nail on the head. like the small backs and the full back position te is not something that we are going to get a lot of use out of. i think petrino has tried to alge work but it just doesn't fit his scheme. i wouldn't be suprised if alge's comments this season don't make it a little easier for petrino to part ways with him as soon as it's advantagous. maybe the kicker situation has taught them a lesson and we will find a young leg that will be around for many seasons. the problem is that there were so many holes to fill that a corner or to had to be cut somewhere and they chose kicker, big mistake imo. the o-line is going to take some time to fix, i just hope that it is made priority #1 this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 petrino is frustrated with the play of harrington. it showed after the minnesota game and progressed from there.since the oline can't be fixed or revamped at this moment other measures have to be made in an attemp to get the running game started. if we can't keep the defense somewhat honest in our passing game the running game will contiue to fail. i know a lot of people are screaming for norwood to get the start but other than his long run against the giants the lanes just haven't been there for either back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40 year itch Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i have no problem playing for next year. l long ago figured (before the vick incident) that an 8-8 season would be great given the new coach and scheme. at this point, i would be happy with splitting the series with our nfc south foes, particularly the last games of the season. head into the offseason with some hope and momentum for a change.big things this offseason!!!! i can hardly wait. seriously p.s. i bought a cool vintage falcons mug a while back at some yard sale a falcon supporter's wife was having. gotta feeling it's for some future post-season celebrations. should come in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki45toryu Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 something to htink about though guys. teams that struggle in a season always change up qb's. which one comes first, the chicken or the egg? and by that i mean, which one came first....our struggles because of our qb, or in spite of.yeah the ol is porous, the defense is soft like churned butter, but maybe the qb is to blame some too. we wont really know this season, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 you hit the nail on the head. like the small backs and the full back position te is not something that we are going to get a lot of use out of. i think petrino has tried to alge work but it just doesn't fit his scheme. i wouldn't be suprised if alge's comments this season don't make it a little easier for petrino to part ways with him as soon as it's advantagous. maybe the kicker situation has taught them a lesson and we will find a young leg that will be around for many seasons. the problem is that there were so many holes to fill that a corner or to had to be cut somewhere and they chose kicker, big mistake imo. the o-line is going to take some time to fix, i just hope that it is made priority #1 this offseason.here's my problem about the kicker. it's the exact same problem we had at the beginning of last season. and it's the same band-aid solution. i understand the o-line is going to take some time to fix. and i understand that the staff kind of recognized it.my problem was that their solution was to sign a full back and act like that was going to fix anything.another problem i had with that signing was if petrino loves 3-4 wr sets why are you signing a fullback? traditionally in a 3-4 wr set the fullback isn't on the field.i would have rather of kept griffith than spend the money we did. at least griffith created mismatches and could do a number of things. is it a coincidence that the farther we get away from the "reeves" players the worse the team gets?reeves may not have been the best gm but at least his teams didn't quit when they had nothing to lose. they had nothing to play for at the end of '03 but we still won 3-4.last year they were playing for mora's job and went 0-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 i think he knows that he has a lot of personnel to replace over the next couple of years and he is taking the present and future into consideration when he puts his players on the field. for instance, joe horn and alge crumpler probably do not fit into his long term plans but roddy white seems to have a bright future. i think norwood is a much different story. i think that norwood from day one has been a back that hasn't fit his plans for this offense but he is realising that jerious is a rare talent that you have to figure out how to use. he just hasn't came up with a good plan yet for doing it.hm...i never thought about it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOYLE Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 petrino has seen joey show the ability to run a controlled ballcontrol offense. the problem with that is that our receivers droptoo many balls. he has scrapped it all to try to throw bombs andhope that if we put up 10 bombs maybe 1 or 2 will hit. our receiversdon't have to catch as many balls. the problem may be no time tothrow... we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_big_pants Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 reeves was horrible at talent acquisition. this team is bad because during the reeves years we couldn't draft for crap... those guys would be in position to be our solid veteran leadership if they weren't mostly washed out of the league. instead we've got some good but very young talent, and we've been trying to fill in the veteran roles through facy (like milloy, abe, horn, etc). in a few years when boley, white, robinson, norwood, jammal anderson, etc. are established veterans and we continue to have great drafts, then we'll be a good team. for now we've got good young talent but not enough of the team has turned over to make us good across the board (especially the **** o-line and kicker).i can't argue about reeves eye for talent but with that being said he must have been a **** of a coach to get the production he did.the thing that amazes me is that we have had the same off-season needs every off season since '99.o-line, almost every position in the secondary, and rb's. and now we're back to needing qbs.this is why you draft the best linemen when you can. i am really against system guys like all the undrafted louisville players that are starting on our team now.and people wonder why we're one of the worst 3 teams in the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 reeves was horrible at talent acquisition. this team is bad because during the reeves years we couldn't draft for crap... those guys would be in position to be our solid veteran leadership if they weren't mostly washed out of the league. instead we've got some good but very young talent, and we've been trying to fill in the veteran roles through facy (like milloy, abe, horn, etc). in a few years when boley, white, robinson, norwood, jammal anderson, etc. are established veterans and we continue to have great drafts, then we'll be a good team. for now we've got good young talent but not enough of the team has turned over to make us good across the board (especially the **** o-line and kicker).mora took a reeves team to the nfc championship with the weakest punter in the history of the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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