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  1. UNBELIEVABLE! We are currently the Dolphins hidden by the success of Matt Ryan and Julio Jones. We are a complete joke of an organization right now! I will not watch anymore Falcons games until Dan Quinn leaves now! I'm sick and tired of this BS! Year after year after year!
  2. With a ton more talent on this roster. The 2007 team was the weird post-Vick and pre-Ryan year. This current team is much worse. For the 2nd week in a row, our offense shows up but our defense can’t do ANYTHING! Tony Gonzalez just said it on FOX. Only the Miami Dolphins have a worse defense than us! The offensive side of the ball deserves much better than this BS Dan Quinn has done to the defense. Fire Quinn now! Sick of it!!!!!
  3. Or are we really aren't as talented as we think we are? There's multiple former pro bowlers on this team. The Falcons have so many flaws and problems right now the list is too long to make. Some of these problems, such as bad special teams coverage, horrible starting field position, our offensive line/running back not getting a yard, our defense being mediocre as usual, have been problems with the Falcons for several years now, even in the Mike Smith years. The difference is when we had good teams, we got away with these problems but it always came back to hunt us somewhere in the postseason. Now we have a s**t ton more problems than ever before. Matt Ryan is old. Julio Jones is getting old. Alex Mack is old now. Matt Bryant as great as he is we have to draft a new quality kicker ASAP. Devonta Freeman was built perfectly for Shanahan's offense but with Koetter (including 2014) and Sarkisian, what has Freeman really done? Trufant, nothing more than an average corner, he's never been elite, always been average and good enough to be a solid starter, but in Trufant's 7 seasons with the Falcons, he's only been in the postseason with us ONCE, that was in 2017. He was injured in our Super Bowl run, and we missed the playoffs in 2013-2015, 2018, and now it's going to be 2019. The Falcons need a more physical offensive line, we're working on that, but the overhaul of the O-line may have come at a worse time. Maybe it'll benefit us the next few years, but we don't know for sure yet. Along with our offensive line, we need a bigger workhorse back who weighs more and can help us run out clock better to help the defense, not light weighted guys like Freeman or Ito. Freeman and Ito are good, but we need to draft a fresh big workhorse back, like another Turner, or a Blunt, a Chubb, a Henry, behind a big physical O-line. Freeman was mostly built for Shanahan's offense like I said previously. A bigger workhorse back is built more for the current offense we have now. Last but not least, I don't care what QB we draft, if we don't have the previous I mentioned along with an ELITE DEFENSE or a TOP 10 DEFENSE for once who has a lot of fire lit up on them with great leadership. We will never win the big one. Defense wins championships. Enough of the mediocre sorry defenses in Atlanta with no leadership at all and a lot of sorry players who can't tackle or make good plays consistently. We're not getting anywhere with this current defense. We need to draft better, bigger and more physical guys up front and in the secondary. Just having Grady Jarrett, Deion Jones, and Ricardo Allen is not enough.
  4. You know what I'm worried about the most at this point? Since our loss to the Chargers in 2016, we've literally lost every AFC game in the preseason and regular season except for the Jets on the road in 2017. Seriously. Since the 2016 Chargers, that's 10 AFC losses out of our last 11 AFC games, and if you throw in our 11 straight preseason losses (only one of those was against a NFC team) so that's 10 AFC preseason losses added on. We've lost a total of 20 of our last 21 games to AFC opponents in the preseason and regular season combined. YIKES, and the 2019 version of the AFC South will be tougher than the 2011 and 2015 AFC South divisions we faced. You already know it. Road games against the Colts and Texans will be brutal, but the Titans and Jaguars shouldn't be hard right? Oh wait, we've lost all of our home games vs AFC opponents since 2013 except for the 2015 Texans. In order for the Falcons to win the Super Bowl they have to beat an AFC opponent right?
  5. Yes, this is ANOTHER Quinn thread, from a different perspective. I do think Quinn has started to lose the team a bit this year, however not for the reasons many people think. Quinn has his faults in coaching as do about 30 other NFL coaches, but at the end of the day I think Quinn is a GOOD coach. The coaches Quinn has surrounded himself with though, which is ABSOLUTELY Quinn’s fault, are not good coaches. This staff is littered with inexperienced coaches who can’t prepare their players on a weekly basis and it has been painfully obvious over the better part of two season. Last year talent reigns supreme and the team was able to get away with it, but the injuries this year have shown the underlying issue. Were the injuries a major issue this year? absolutely, they took the Falcons from a contender to a middle of the pack team, but unfortunately the team is performing more like a basement dweller than a middle team which is on the coaching staff. Put simply, a CEO can’t run a good company without a good executive team and Quinn with not be successful without a good supporting staff. Quinn cannot possibly coach up every player single handledly. Good head coaches surround themselves with a good staff and that is exactly what Quinn needs to do this off season. He needs to admit his past faults and bring in some experience in the coaching department. A young coach like Sean McVay has done exactly this, bringing in experience at the defensive coordinator and special teams positions and gathering the best coaching he could find top to bottom. Even at 11-1 he isn’t satisfied offering Kliff Kingsbury a consultant job throughout the playoff run to help dissect offenses and get literally any additional feedback he can get. If Quinn wants to be successful, and he absolutely can be, he needs to come to the realization that no one can do it by themself and go out and put together a quality coaching staff this off season.
  6. I’d of posted this in the “Current State of Falcons” thread… but it doesn’t allow feedback which I like: even at the risk of being chewed to pieces . Mine is that Atlanta is a few small tweaks away from getting on track. Sarkisian has made great strides but can’t do what Shanahan was able to do the first half of his first year and all last year minus the superbowl: overcome offensive woes. Thus, here is my watered-down Korn Ferry approach to offensive coaching adjustments: 1. Send Sarkisian back to the sideline (as he prefers) because Dan Quinn’s decision to move him up can’t be proven effective. During the bye week, Dan provided 3 primary reasons for putting him in the box: having the plays laid out before Sarkisian, seeing the hashmark, and seeing the yard line quickly. However, Atlanta went 3-1 before the decision and has gone 3-4 since that time. Also, Atlanta scored points and moved the ball effectively. Bye Week TDs Int Passing Avg. Avg. Pts Before 5 5 277.25 26 After 11 3 243.5 21 Total 16 8 254.75 23 Bye Week Rushing Yards Average Before 466 5.13 After 773 4.07 Total 1239 4.41 Tiki Barber also did a good job highlighting benefits to being on the sideline in the link below. Two big ones is that he can feel the urgency of the players and situation on the sideline; second he can communicate directly with the QB. It should streamline communication between Sark and the entire offense during adjustments between drives. https://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/10/23/falcons-offense-steve-sarksian-calling-plays-sidelines Also, if Quinn’s philosophy is about featuring people in positions of strength, then apply it to Sarkisian and move him down. 2. Move Bush Hamdan, the QB coach upstairs to the booth. If Dan cares about hash and yard-line being communicated quickly then let Hamdan use the communication in to Sarkisian for that purpose. In addition, Hamdan can take notes of opposing defenses from a big picture view and share them at the half for adjustments. Also, if you don’t know already, Hamdan is leaving next year to University of Washington to be an OC which brings me to a few offseason changes. https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/bush-hamdan-returning-to-montlake-to-serve-as-huskies-offensive-coordinator/ Moreover, the Rams are leveraging a similar gameday approach with the McVay calling plays on the sideline while Matt Lefleur the OC is in the box making observations. "Game day is when the conversations between LaFleur, McVay and the quarterbacks are the most urgent. Mannion is always listening in as McVay shares the play with Goff in the huddle, benefitting from what LaFleur sees up in the press box to inform his calls, and hears an extremely smooth relaying of information." - LaFleur an overlooked conduit in Rams' surging offense 3. Add QB Coach to Sarkisian in the offseason. If a head-coach can also call plays, then Sarkisian should have no problem playing OC and QB coach being a former QB himself. Also, I’m sure Hamdan provides little benefit to Matt and Shaub since they’re both vets. Lastly, the roster has been built to win now; barring career ending injury, Atlanta isn't rebuilding anytime soon: it's about the superbowl NOW! "FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- The Falcons have finalized their 53-man roster for the 2017 season. General manager Thomas Dimitroff has said all offseason that he believes this is “one of the most impressive” rosters he’s ever had, and now it’s complete." 4. Promote Raheem Morris from WR coach to Offensive Consultant and put him upstairs in the booth next year. He’s our Passing Game Coordinator which I found…“Nominally a passing game coordinator organizes the passing game from concepts, personnel, formations based on every conceivable situation. Most passing game coordinators are also position coaches, mostly at quarterback and wide receiver.” If Raheem is critical to the overarching strategy week to week and is a defensive mind, why isn’t he given the booth to concentrate on feeding Sarkisian potential in-game strategic adjustments? My gut feeling is that he’d greatly improve our ability to adjust between offensive series and halves. Today, his role as passing game coordinator is hampered game day dealing with receivers. While he has greatly benefited them, it’s time to promote him to keep him here a little longer and help Sarkisian in his continued development. 5. Hire a new WR coach… for reasons stated above.
  7. I love what Quinn's does for this team in-week but his in-game clock/situation management has cost us. Two examples from last night. One was the Jimmy Graham first down on the one yard line which wasn't. Replay clearly showed that Graham was short. Bad spot by the refs but that's why you have the challenge flag. To rectify situations like that. Seattle didn't hurry up or anything and there was time for the replay to be shown from multiple angles. Considering that the play was on 3rd down, we would have forced a kick with that stop. Instead Quinn let's it go and the Seahawks score. Second time was a bit later in the game. I don't remember exactly what happened but we stopped the Seahawks on 3rd down and they would be facing a 4th and 4 or something. However the Seahawks had a holding penalty. Quinn elects to take the penalty instead of the down and the Seahawks then convert a long 3rd down. They later go on to score a TD on the drive. In a vacuum I don't completely disagree with the call to replay the down. The FG was long but Walsh and you'd expect your defense to be able to stop a 3rd and long. However at that point, our defense had been on the field for a really long time. Our offense barely touched the ball in the 2nd quarter and the Seahawks got the ball to start the 3rd so our D. Ever since the Superbowl I'm extremely mindful of defensive fatigue so to me, the FG try was a no brainer. The FG is by no means guaranteed at that distance (as we saw at the end) and it gets your defense some rest. Dan Quinn is a great motivator and X's and O's guy but he needs to get better at these things if he wants to take his coaching to the next level. Football is a game of inches and every little thing counts. That's why someone like Bill Belichick will challenge whether a guy actually got off the field in time to get his team 5 yards on a 12 men on the field penalty. Little things like that add up and while I'm happy we won, I fear Quinn's time and situation management will come back to bite us in the ***...again.
  8. So, another loss that somehow did not feel like it should have been one. But instead of spending the evening with coming up with new swear words for the officials, this time I'm just tired. Not because it's now 2 AM over here, but because this loss, again, feels so .. unnecessary, for a lot of reasons. Some random things that cross my mind and that I need to get of my chest: 1) Just to get it out of the way, I wanna adress this first: Again, there was a fundamental lapse in referee performance during a crucial moment in the game, again to the disadvantage of Julio Jones. And again, I've heard the followong reasoning for not throwing the flag: "As an official, you do not want to be the one to decide the game, so you rather not throw a flag there. You want the players to be able to decide it." But if a foul was comitted, a player was prevented from being able to decide to game. If you do not throw the flag there, you are actually deciding the game for the players. It's throwing the flag that allows the players to decide the game. Last time I checked, no points were awarded for fouls, so the players still have to score. Make them line up again and give players of BOTH teams the opportunity to get it right. 2) Overall, Shanny called a good game again. But the 3rd and 4th down call in OT I just cannot get on board with. The QB sneak was as predictable as cheap shots in New Orleans, and our Oline had had enough breakdowns in their perfomance (in the 2nd half of this game) to be at least somewhat hesitant of going all in on a strech run. Also not even trying a freeze call left me a bit unsatisifed with how the game-deciding two downs were handled. However, I completely agree with going for it. SD would probably have marched 200 yrds in that drive after the turnover. 3) This game, the O-Line was the biggest single culprit and a main factor in the offense just scoring 3 points in the second half. Three. There is no more explicit way of telling the other team, "Please beat us!"... except maybe comitting stupid penalties. And they excelled in that, too. I am not gonna complain if you are giving up sacks and pressure to guys like Bosa, or Von Miller. The other guys get paid, too, and if you expect to shove everybody around 24/7 with them just turning over, you are in for a rude awakening. But comitting two dead-ball fouls in a row, in a drive that could have put the game away for us, just wakes the impression that your head is not in the game. Especially if it happens at home. 6 penalties on the o-line, that is unacceptable and negates the real good job they have been doing. 4) Something positive for a change: My freaking god, I do not want to be a ballcarrier - or receiver - in the vicinity of Keanu Neal. The guy hits like he can just pick up a new body once this one has broken down, and straight up punishes ballcarriers. it's been like what, four? games, and he is already a presence. Playing safety myself, I just love watching him. Same goes for Deion Jones. So that's just my two cents on today, feel free to disagree / discuss. At the beginning of the year, I thought of this as a 9-7 team. But after seeing how we lost, I can not help but feeling that, should it result in such a record (or worse), the team did more to lose than the others did to win. It's 2:44 AM now, so I think I'm gonna wrap things up here. Oh and btw, it's nice to be back
  9. Yesterday after watching the game, I was ranting and raving to my friends about how we need to get rid of Shanahan and that his offense was garbage. They rightfully pointed out that we scored 24 points and the main reason we lost was because we gave up 31 points. It was hard to counter this because though I saw that the defense played terribly in spots, I felt like the offense was worse and I actually put more blame on them. After thinking it over I realized why that is. It's easy to say we scored 24 points so you can't blame the offense too much but we only scored two TDs. One of them was set up by Tru's INT (points to the defense on that one). That play set us up nicely in the redzone and even then it was a struggle to get theTD that we did. The other TD came right after we went down 31-13 and Ryan went into the no huddle. We moved the ball pretty easily and I want to say part of that was because Tampa backed off a bit but I'll give credit where it's due, we got the TD. Aside from that, our offense was anemic. I think the drive that best summarized it was the final one. We had poorly thrown balls (the pass that Sanu got hurt on), drops, and stalled runs. It was all too fitting that it ended with a batted ball on the last play. So take away the gift the defense gave us and we have a near-blowout. I don't know if it's Shanahan's actual offense or his playcall (why the **** are you running a toss in the redzone), our offense isn't that good. Watching Dirk Koetter's offense carve us up yesterday **** near brought a tear to my eye because we used to look like that. Go watch highlights of the 2012 team, some of the play designs were amazing. The Lions game stands out particularly to me. We'd been running WR slip screens all season and when the Lions keyed in on it, we faked that and threw a bomb to Roddy. Right now all of our WR routes are crossing routes and ins where we hope for the WR to make YAC. Sorry to wax poetic about Dirk Koetter but having such a stark contrast in one game shows how weak our (Shanahan's) offense is. I hope we can turn it around at some point but I really don't think this offense is built for our personnel or even the NFL of 2016.
  10. vaughn mcclure– ‏@vxmcclure23 Quinn said getting Keanu Neal helps the pass rush because now they are better on third down. Neal can cover the tight ends. 7:40 PM - 28 Apr 2016
  11. I see so many people on these boards excited for this team and while I'd love to be, the realistic part of me will not allow me to be. We have a lot of holes which I don't see being fixed by the current braintrust of this organization. In my opinion we only have one bona fide star on this team and that's Julio. I was confident in Matt Ryan before we destroyed him by bringing in Kyle ******* Shanahan. Let's breakdown all of the issues with this team that I see. Our offensive line is extremely weak in the middle and our front office has shown that they do not know how to evaluate o-linemen so I'm not sure this will get any better. We have no number two receiving target behind Julio. I love Roddy and while I still think his decline was accelerated by bringing in Kyle ******* Shanahan (I can't express enough how much I hated and still hate this hire) I understand letting him go. But now we have nothing. Judging for last year our second target on any given play is Jacob Tamme and that's not a good place to be. Our defensive line is weak. I think Hageman could be a monster (he dominated the 2nd Panthers game) but he's inconsistent and immature. I'm not sure what will get through to him because Bryan Cox has been yelling and cursing at him for two seasons with no difference. I also like Vic Beasley but I've always felt he's better suited to be a 3-4 LB so I don't think he'll reach his full potential with our current scheme. The rest aren't anything to write home about. We have the absolute worst LB corps in the league. All three of our starters from last year should probably be special teams guys and it's basically impossible to replace three starting linebackers in one offseason so while we may get better there I don't think it'll be too much better. Our secondary isn't anything to write home about even though it's probably our best position group on defense. Trufant is good though he got exposed IMO when people started throwing at him (the Bucs embarrassed him) and Alford is completely hot or cold. I'm willing to give Jalen Collins a pass for now but he played like garbage a good bit of last season. I'm glad Willy Mo is gone because I hated his playing style (always go for the big hit, never wrap up) and he was always injured but that's another hole for us. Ricardo Allen might be my favorite in that group because he's so raw but showed a lot of promise IMO. As far as coaching, I'm not as high on Dan Quinn as the rest of you. He worked miracles with our defense and he talks a big game but when it came down to tactics, he left a lot wanting. He was outcoached by every coach in our division and made some late Mike Smith-level bone-headed calls like the field goal in SF. I'm hoping he can correct this but when he doubles down on these stupid calls and throws out soundbites like "toughness" and "competition", it irks me. Now you might all be saying, "But wait we have an entire offseason to fix our personnel issues" and I'd say you're right. But given this front office's track record do you really think we're going to turn anything around this offseason? Our MO the entire Dimitroff era has been to scrape the bottom of the barrel in FA and try to supplement that with draft picks which we regularly miss on. Couple that with Kyle ******* Shanahan's **** offense and what do you have? Does this excite you for our 2016 Superbowl run? I hope I'm wrong because I'd loving nothing more than to see this team fix it's issues and bring a Lombardi to the A but realistically nothing I'm seeing leads me to believe this will happen.
  12. New head coach and weak schedule and our 50th season....excitement builds for every Falcon fan! First few games, Shannahan uses Freeman and Julio as key players very effectively and Freeman plays with a chip on his shoulders. The team is excited and plays hard and with resilience even Kroy saves the day. We go 5-0 despite some very close calls and games that we could have easily lost. The Saints kill our undefeated hopes and make us look like the not so great team that many thought we were, (including me) starting our turnover woes including to many bonehead plays by Ryan. A game or two later, our play calling gets stale as Julio is double teamed majority of the time and Freeman and our run game starts getting shut down consistently. Quinn makes a rookie HC mistake and goes for a field goal on the 1 or 2 yrd line and relied on the defense to make a stop when we could have had them backed up in their end zone if we failed to score a TD. Fumbling and bad snap woes continue and our pass rush is STILL non existent. The natives get restless...Some calling for Ryan's head, some calling for Shannahan's head, some calling for TD's head, some even calling for Quinn's head....some wishing we hired Rex(idiots) EVEN then we could have still controlled our own destiny to get into the playoffs but we lose to MIN and Seattle does whats needed to boot us out of the playoff picture BUT...there's STILL hope(at least in my heart)...Players meeting...The team is fed up!...We can turn this thing around with some solid play from our offense and minimal turnovers! Yeah! BUT nooooo, we get swept by the Bucs....The freaking Bucs and their rookie QB..... I'm so ashamed right now because I'm the number one s**t talker in every NFL and NFCS rivalry group that I'm in. My take: Ryan didn't just forget how to play football within the last six games. He consistently is at the top of the league in passing yards even getting Harry Douglass 1K when Julio was hurt last year. He hasn't really had solid pass protection or a run game for a while until the first few games of this year. (and as I've stated even that has broken down) Ryan should not have to throw the ball as much as he does...Why are we not running the ball more even with the lead? Our team is crappy and it HAS alot to do with TD! Smitty was a victim of TDs recruiting and a few clock management issues. I'm not saying we shouldn't have let go of Smitty but we just haven't had the talent on both sides of the ball at the same time. Quinn needs another season or two to bring in "his" talent. Shannahan needs to get his s**t together, come up with some better schemes and run the freaking ball more than 14 times with our all star RB. Give Ryan a chance to play action and run a few more freaking screen plays or passes to the flats with Freeman, Coleman, even Hester like we did with Anton Smith. or just get rid of Shannahan period. or Draft a QB and if Ryan keeps screwing up, bench him, trade him, whatever. ...and for God's sake get rid of Kroy, put some fire under Vic's azz, bring in some help at linebacker, pass rushing and opposite Trufant, (and a little more help on the O-line) The season is over for us, but if by some miraculous chance we made the playoffs, we're far from a playoff team much less a Superbowl team, but as far as next year goes, with the right moves, we could be a very good team as long as Blank can put a boot in TD's azz. Just ranting....Still rising up though.
  13. vaughn mcclure @vxmcclure23 · 6h6 hours agoJust had a follow-up phone conversation with Dan Quinn. He will NOT have any joint practices for training camp. Worried about his own team Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn told ESPN.com the team will not have joint practices with other teams during training camp leading into the 2015 season. Last year, the Falcons had joint practices with both the Houston Texans and Tennessee Titansleading into preseason games against each team. The Falcons also were close to securing a training-camp practice deal with the Miami Dolphins. The practice with the Titans became heated as center Joe Hawley was kicked out and former Titans safety Bernard Pollard insisted on trash-talking through the entire session. The fact that the Falcons were chosen for HBO's "Hard Knocks" last season added a little more spice to the joint practices with the Texans and Titans. Quinn wasn't in town for those skirmishes so there's little chance last year's experiences factored into his decision to stray away from the joint practices. "We're going to have great practices and competitions with our own team," Quinn said in a phone interview from the owners meetings in Phoenix. "I'm just looking forward to help building our own team right now." http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/12521/no-joint-practices-for-falcons-at-this-years-training-camp
  14. Not many people are talking about this but one thing that stood out to me about Quinn's conference was his focus on developing players. He said they will be a developmental coaching staff and put each player in a position to win. No more Sacred Biermann Cows, no more watching possible game changers like Reedy languish over special teamers, no more benching our best pass rushers. New era, folks.
  15. If Dan Quinn is indeed our next coach: A) Does he work with some of our coaches and GM in place and work around the people Arthur is protecting or Let everyone go on the coaching staff (except a select few like Tice) and start fresh I don't know and thought maybe one of you guys could give me some hope that we burn it the rest of the way down and hit the "do over button with respect to the coaches"
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