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  1. Is it just me or does this guy remind you of Matt a little bit? Pushes the ball. Just adequate arm-strength. Above-average accuracy. Understands adjusting to pressure due to offensive line breakdowns. Stares down receivers but still delivers the ball. I like this guy. Even his back-shoulder fade throw is better than Matt's was back at BC. He's also a little faster on his feet.
  2. After watching Pitt upset Clemson, it's amazing to think that a few months ago some people were suggesting trading Ryan and either losing for Watson, or trading the farm to get him. Not to say he isn't playing well this year, but he's looking less pro-ready every week, and #2 putting up his MVP caliber season. The amount of crow being eaten this season has been amazing, and I hope it continues!
  3. I posted this in the other qb thread about another nfl.com list, but thought since it was a new list, a different list, that it deserved its own thread. Dameshek's top 14 Qbs. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000493095/article/aaron-rodgers-ben-roethlisberger-top-list-of-nfls-best-qbs
  4. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/22321196/fourpronged-rankings-broncos-top-list-cowboys-look-like-a-contender 1. Denver Broncos: 154 2. Dallas Cowboys: 125 3. Green Bay Packers: 124 4. San Francisco 49ers: 112 5. New York Giants: 111 6. Seattle Seahawks: 110 7. Houston Texans: 107 8. Atlanta Falcons: 103 9. Baltimore Ravens: 98 10. Chicago Bears: 94 11. New England Patriots: 92 12. Cincinnati Bengals: 91 13. (tie) Carolina Panthers, Indianapolis Colts: 86 15. Washington Redskins: 85 16. Kansas City Chiefs: 81 17. Arizona Cardinals: 79 18. Pittsburgh Steelers: 76 19. St. Louis Rams: 74 20. Cleveland Browns: 73 21. (tie) New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 71 23. (tie) San Diego Chargers, New York Jets: 64 25. (tie) Miami Dolphins, Tennessee Titans: 60 27. (tie) Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings: 55 29. (tie) Detroit Lions, Philadelphia Eagles: 51 31. Oakland Raiders: 46 32. Jacksonville Jaguars: 31
  5. There has been a lot of back and forth on what to do at #30. BPA... or BPA Defense. Ah, the ever-debated. Whatever happens, playing this one cool will serve us well. Very well. ---------------------------------------------------------- The interesting factor in this year's draft is seeing the activity in the late 20s.. Trades especially. When the first 10 picks are dealt with, it's fair to assume a few things. The big tackles will go, the 'premier' d-lineman will go, and potentially 2 cbs. That leaves so much intrigue in the mid portion. Some big names are going to fall, and will illicit some movement. This movement looks likely to be areas we aren't looking at in the first. WR - at least 2 great prospects that someone will pull the trigger on Guard - trading up for a guard?! Yep, this year it'd be worth it for 2 guys OT - there is always a tackle rush when teams get jumpy. Always. This will help hugely So the draft starts to play out nicely for us, leaving big talent late in the first at CB, LB, TE, Safety and potentially, D-Line Safey talent is huge, and sticking around till the mid second may not work for teams with one pick in the books. If Elam isn't gone by 25, someone moves, for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The hugest X-Factor - 'interesting' QB prospects. I keep hearing that Glennon, Nassib, Barkley, Manuel could all sneak in. With the jury very much split on Geno, teams are going to be targeting these guys, and won't risk losing them if they think they have their guy. No chance. Even if it's just 1-2 of them, the chance of having someone really special fall increases. ----------------------------------------------------------- So with this in mind, I think the decision really makes itself. Sit back, watch this unfold, and consider 3 options. Stand Pat, and take an absolute steal of a BPA in a position of need. It wouldn't necessarily be Defense.. TE is v realistic. But there is an increasing chance a 'no miss' DE/DT is still around... In the eyes of TD of course. Answer the phone when someone is desperate to snag the 2nd safety, 3rd-4th QB, OT with 'upside'. Consider the fact that we can take a risk on a Dline prospect and get a great OLB with the compensation too... I like that the absolute most. Pick the phone up if the quarterback/tackle rush gets out of hand. If some big names that we love fall past the teens.. How could we not jump up for Jarvis Jones if we love what we see? Or if Star's heart pushes him down? Who knows who will be there, it's a crazy year. It's very exciting, the only way that i'll be bummed out is if we do in fact draft a marginal player at a position of high need. TD is too clever for this, and I expect him to enjoy the day as much as I'm enjoying the prospect of seeing it unfold. Thoughts? Matt
  6. Most of the posts that bothered me got pushed down like mine usually do. They were about the need for a back up quarterback. From the wisdom of the real Madden not the game, "ya either have ONE, or ya got none." The ONE is Matt Ryan But what if Matty ICE goes down? If any starting QB on any contending team goes down, getting to the playoffs turns into a long shot, if it is early in the season, if late, get to the playoffs and can't go far. Ryan is the QB, and Davis, Dominique is THE backup. But what about some extreme situation? Meier, Kerry played QB before becoming a receiver, AND Denard Robinson played QB last year at Michigan and can be drafted LATE as a receiver, so having players at other positions with QB experience works for me. Only 2 listed at QB when the Falcons get down to 53 will be just FINE
  7. Since we have so many threads where people complain about Willy Mo's injuries and Matt Ryan's future payday, I figured it would be nice to have one thread where all complaints could be combined so as not to ruin other threads that usually have nothing to do with either player. I don't expect anyone to use it, but I feel better having created it. ha!
  8. He is an excellent game manager. He has the touted “it” factor. He is the hardest working quarterback this franchise has EVER had. His short passing game is one of best in the NFL. He knows the right sets to get us to and if you don’t know what I am talking about, watch games of other QB’s in Atlanta before Ryan. He has total command of the offense. I really believe this is the best offensive coordinator we have had in Atlanta. He has complete control on offense like an elite QB, maybe he doesn’t have control like Manning has but no one has that type of total control. That is including Brees, Brady, and Rodgers. He is as sharp as a QB as we have in franchise history. He is one of the best decision makers in franchise history. He is a winner. I love winners and I respect Ryan for that. I would love to get a winner at QB for any QB no matter the talent level. The issue with Ryan is he has absolutely no mobility. It doesn’t matter if it is in pocket or out of the pocket, he has no mobility. It’s like watching a lanky Drew Bledsoe in the pocket in terms of his mobility. He is limited in that regard. He might have the worst mobility we have had at QB ever. Some of our previous QB’s like Miller, Schaub, Johnson, and Leftwich have superior mobility to Ryan. Joey Harrington is better but not by much compared to Ryan in Atlanta and Michael Vick is so greatly superior in terms of mobility I might as well not even bring him up. Since mobility is a major need for the West Coast Offense, Ryan will never be any better in that type of offense now. Ryan just doesn’t have mobility and that limits him in this league. He is a traditional pocket passer. Matt Ryan has a very weak arm. He tries to overcompensate for it by throwing the ball really high which absolutely kills his velocity. His velocity on his deep balls might be the worst in the NFL and only comparable with Matt Leinart. This is why arm strength is considered the most important thing for NFL QB’s via a SI article. You must have the velocity in the NFL to make all throws to become an elite NFL QB. Matt Ryan has awful deep ball accuracy. His deep ball accuracy is comparable to Donovan McNabb who has poor deep ball accuracy as well. The difference between Ryan and McNabb is arm strength. McNabb has one of the best arms in NFL history and Ryan arm is extremely weak. When McNabb is near the WR on his deep passes, he has a big enough arm that the WR can make the play while Ryan doesn’t and the WR is generally brought down after the catch. He gets exposed if the running game is non-existed. Matt Ryan is not a football player in terms of mindset. Guys like Big Ben, Newton, Rodgers, Tebow, even Brady and Manning are football players. They stand strong in the pocket. They move when a rusher is coming. They aren’t scared of a defensive player. Ryan is Chicken Little. He is extremely scared. First signs of a rusher, he falls down to slides to the ground. He is extremely scared. I hear some say he’s tough but he is not tough. He just isn’t injury prone. Being tough and being injury prone is not the same thing. An injury prone player can change. Aaron Rodgers is a prime example. He was injury prone till this season. Sometimes it’s your team like Stafford and Cutler or your style of play like Vick, Rodgers, or Vince Young. But a weak minded QB is always a weak minded QB. A timid QB will always be a timid QB. His lack of swagger doesn’t help either. With that said, Ryan has more strengths than weaknesses; the problem is for our personnel his weaknesses are too much. We have the talent for a high octane offense. Even if Turner is in his last years we can replace him with all around talent named Quizz Rodgers who can be Maurice Jones-Drew lite. Gonzo can’t be replaced but it is not hard to find a decent TE in FA or the draft these days. White, Jones, and the rest of the cast might be the best in the NFL. That is a lot of offensive weapons. Ryan problem is that he needs to play around an elite run blocking line which we were last season, an elite running RB which Turner has been two out of his four years in Atlanta and an elite defense which we have never had in Atlanta in the last 10 seasons. The best solution for all of this is that we have the personnel on offense to explode but maybe it’s time to trade or get a QB for the future since it will not be Ryan. With our offense, we don’t need an elite passer at QB to become a great team or even a produce an elite QB. We need a QB who has a very good arm, has decent football awareness, and is a playmaker. No QB can become elite in any offense if he is not a playmaker. But some playmakers have major deficiencies in other areas. Vince Young and Jay Cutler come to mind. They can win a Super Bowl but both need freedom and an offensive supporting cast to win a Super Bowl. Not many guys who aren’t playmakers can win a Super Bowl. I would say only Trent Dilfer and Rob Johnson is the only QB's who can’t make plays who have won Super Bowls but those QB’s had some of the greatest defenses of all time. Here are the QB’s in the NFL I would take over Matt Ryan and the ones I would draft to eventually replace aren’t quoted. Drafted: Robert Griffin III- He is extremely accurate. He is extremely mobile. Doesn’t have the “it” factor but does neither does Rodgers and he does elite potential as a QB. Andrew Luck- Enuff said. He does float the ball a bit like Ryan but the big difference is he is accurate on his deep balls and he has excellent mobility in the pocket and has decent mobility in general. He is a football player. He will be the elite superior version of Matt Ryan if Sam Bradford is the potentially elite version of Matt Ryan. Kellen Moore- He needs time to adjust like Drew Brees but all has passes have excellent zip. No matter if it’s short, intermediate, and deep. He has great pocket awareness and mobility. Drew Brees like accuracy. The rest was quoted from a different date in a different thread. Thank you for reading. I took off Romo from that list. I remember the reason why I never liked Romo again. He is not a super bowl winning type of QB.
  9. I'm sure most of know the release time of below QB's Manning / Brees - 0.33 or less Rodgers / Brady - 0.37 or less I presume Matty falls under same category...what say?
  10. Don't see this posted so I thought I'd share... Cosell Talks: Michael Vick / Matt Ryan by Greg Cosell As spring turns to summer, and then training camps open later in July, two NFC quarterbacks will be under the microscope: the Philadelphia Eagles’ Michael Vick and the Atlanta Falcons’ Matt Ryan. Vick remains the most intriguing player in the NFL. It’s hard to believe he will be 32 years old in June. When Vick entered the league as the No. 1 overall pick in 2001, he was immediately celebrated as an athletic innovator who was going to revolutionize the game, surpass accepted and time-worn philosophies, and compel a re-thinking of the perceived limits of the NFL quarterback position. It never quite happened in Atlanta, and it hasn’t really worked out that way in Philadelphia. There always will be breathtaking moments. Vick is a transcendent athlete, capable of extraordinary throws and runs at any given moment. Yet he always leaves you wanting more. The reason, in simplest terms: Vick is not, to this day, an accomplished passer. He remains a week-to-week player with little stability or continuity to his game. He’s always dangerous, at times dazzling, but seldom consistent. Michael Vick (AP) Defensive coordinators no doubt will speak to the difficulty of defending Vick because of his dynamic, game-changing running ability. Yet, if Vick presents such an enormous challenge to match up against, why has that not frequently and consistently resulted in reliable performances? The most telling reason is Vick’s strong tendency to play outside of structure, beyond the design of the offense. It is very frustrating seeing Vick leave the pocket when pressure is not a factor and the route combination has not fully developed. He leaves a lot of throws on the field. For the uninitiated, it appears the Eagles OL is not very good. Those who believe that don’t understand quarterback play in the NFL. If you play the position properly, and much goes into doing that both before and after the snap, you will play within structure a very high percentage of the time. Improvisation and sandlot play may occasionally look spectacular, but they are random and arbitrary. By definition, they are both positive and negative. That’s not the recipe for consistent success in the NFL. 2012 is the crossroads year for Vick. It begins with his first full off-season as an undisputed starter since his final year in Atlanta in 2006. He must use the time to better understand the subtleties of quarterback play, the nuances demanded to perform well play after play, week after week. NFL quarterback is a highly disciplined craft. For those like Vick who are exceptional athletes, it requires more intellectual discipline to properly harness that athleticism than is necessary for those players predisposed to play in the pocket. Perhaps the most damning assessment of Vick is this: his frenetic, haphazard approach sabotages his ability to stay on the field. *** Matt Ryan (AP) Let’s turn our attention to Ryan. By the numbers, Ryan has been excellent, showing meaningful improvement each of his four seasons since Atlanta selected him with the third overall pick in the 2008 draft, ostensibly to replace the departed Vick. Ryan has won 69% of his regular season starts. It’s very difficult to find fault with that level of success. Of course, the Falcon faithful point to his 0-3 playoff record as the more meaningful measuring stick of his performance. Few would argue that Ryan is a quality NFL starter. In 2011, his overall game took another step forward, one example being the Falcons more expansive utilization of the up-tempo, no-huddle offense. That required Ryan to control the game at the line of scrimmage before the snap. The ability to do that is now necessary in order to reach elite status at the quarterback position in the NFL. Ryan, time and again, showed both his comfort level, and his total command of many pre-snap variables. There may have been no better example of his growth and maturity in this area than the victory over the Titans on the 11th Sunday of the season. One trait Ryan has always possessed, going back to his days at Boston College, is the willingness to pull the trigger, to make tight throws into small openings. He’s an excellent anticipation passer, delivering the ball before the receiver comes out of his break. He threw a touchdown pass to Julio Jones against the New Orleans Saints late in the season that was truly special, made more so by the fact that it was on the fringe of the red zone, an area of the field where space is compressed and the windows are squeezed. The overall point is this: there’s no question Ryan has many of the attributes needed to play the position at a consistently high level in the NFL. Yet, there’s one element of Ryan’s game in which he struggles, and he will need to improve in order to play with greater consistency in the more important games, against the better defenses. Ryan is primarily a pocket passer. Certainly he can roll out by design at times, but he’s at his best sitting in a comfortable cradle with his feet balanced, striding into his throws with functional space. That’s the ideal scenario: a secure pocket with room to deliver. Unfortunately, that does not happen as often as you might expect. In the NFL, quarterbacks must be able to function effectively in a “muddied” pocket, with bodies around them, in what we call the “eye of the storm”. Quarterbacks who are predominantly pocket passers must also have the ancillary attribute of pocket movement. Think of a boxing ring, and its self contained area. Pocket movement is best portrayed as the ability to move within the tightly constricted confines of that compressed area to avoid pass rush pressure, and find, relatively speaking, the quietest area with which to deliver the football. Two corollaries to pocket movement: It is imperative to keep your focus downfield, and never look at the rush, and secondly, you must have the ability to maintain your fundamental throwing motion in the face of intense pressure. It is, without question, the most important type of mobility needed to succeed consistently in the NFL. Ryan is not there yet. It’s the single most important trait that he must master to reach that next step in his development. Without it, he will remain inconsistent, and uncertain and tentative against defenses that can sustain pressure throughout the course of games. As is the case with Michael Vick, Ryan must continue to refine his game in order to make the most of the natural talents that have gotten him this far. For both players who still have much still to prove, 2012 will be another pivotal year in their NFL journey. Published: May 9, 2012 Filed Under: Atlanta Falcons, From the Desk of Greg Cosell, Greg Cosell, Inside the Game, Philadelphia Eagles Tags: matt ryan : michael vick
  11. 55 Atlanta Coby Fleener TE Stanford 6' 6" 248 85 Atlanta Shea McClellin DE Boise State 6' 3" 262 149 Atlanta Mitchell Schwartz OT Cal 6' 5" 310 181 Atlanta Case Keenum QB Houston 6' 2" 210 213 Atlanta William Vlachos OC Alabama 6' 1" 292 http://www.draftsite...mock-draft/2012
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