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Fiddlin John's Ghost

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  1. Ive avoided coming here the last 3 weeks, trying to not go off just one game, but after 3 here are the issues I see that give me reason to not be optimistic. 1. Minny beat us running outside. Dont know why philly didnt. But the colts did, and gashed us good. Quinn is dc. This is an issue. He been here long enough that it shouldnt be an issue. If we get gashed again on outside runs, my belief in quinns ability to call defense will be almost gone. Defending the run aint hard. Contain, gap discipline. Proper spacing on outside pursuit. If quinn dont get that fixed...now...it aint gonna be at this point. 2. Penalties. Stupid penalties. Every punt return is a hold. Almost every outaide run a wr holds. This shoulda done been fixed. Fact that it aint is on quinn. 3. Ryans ints arent due to him getting pressured. Or deflections. He is forcing the ball on 1st and 2nd down into wrong reads. I could understand trying to make a play on 3rd down. Dont know why...but they bad and dont know what the problem is. 4. In running sets...with ryan under center...we have had some goid runs. One of the first pmays against indy freeman got 8 yards behind the right side. I assumed being that our oline and new coordinator needed time to jell...and had ran well during the preseason...we would run the ball more...especially with Hill. But we havent. Im hoping for the best. We still in the hunt, but if we still making the same stupid mistakes vs the titans.. .my personal outloook for the season is bleak.
  2. I dont know exactly what to blame for that absolute pathetic showing yesterday, but Dan Quinn as the head coach is soley and completely to blame. He is the head coach. Quinn is to blame for SB 51 debacle. Quinn is to blame for Sark and those wasted two years. Quinn is to blame for ket his defense being gashed in the running game, all of which were the same runs outside, no matter which rb was doing the gashing. Quinn is to blame for a offensive gameplan that played right into the vikes hands(Where were the screens and other pass rush beaters?)( Why was Matt early on standing in the pockebreingt trying to throw downfield until it was too late and they started throwing short passes to Hoop. Here’sa breakdown of the stupid bonehead plays and how I saw them. Please lemme know if yall agree or not. 1.Very first play. 1st and 10. Matt drops back for a long developing play action pass and is killed from the blind side by a free rusher Matthews left untouched. Zimmer is known for blitzing. Their dline wet knew were all studs. And, doesn’t play action work better after you run the ball some? How does Matthews, a veteran and pro bowler, not block a blitzer lined up right in front of him? It was sa boneheaded play call, a boneheaded play by Matthews who matter the protec23tion called should’ve blocked dude. Either the falcons coaching staff is that incompetant, someone in the coaching box was proving a point, or someone in the coaching staff was sabotaging someone else. That play set the tone and opened the flood gates of *** beat. 2nd down we get 4 yards on an honest to god running play, like we did most every time we ran straight ahead and wasnt trying to toss sweep or double reverse. Run that play on 1st down and it’s 2 and 6 vs 2nd and f4cked. Then comes the blocked punt, for the second time instead of blcoking the man in front of them, they let him free and bad happens. On that play, TE #87 Graham was lined up beside the long snapper, at the snap he lunged left leaving his man a free run to block the punt. Zimmers staff had saw this on tape before and exploited it. Dont know who this is on, surely to God he wasnt coached to do this. High school teams dont screw up punt protection this bad. th Anyway, the first disaster putting the defense in a bad spot. Vikes 1st and 10, they bust the first of a long line of outside zone plays that gashed the falcons all night. It wasnt the vikes beating the falcons on these plays, the falcons were clueless defending these all night. No matter the rb, no matter what, the falcons didn’t contain, they werent gap sound, they bunched up way too close in pursuit to the edge. This play got called back, but still, this is on Quinn. He has taken over the defense that has already been under his tutelage 5 seasons, and they epically failed defending the outside run….all night long. Next play, 1 and 20, Cook caught a pass in the flat with Beasley defending. IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM SHOULD BEASLEY BE COVERING DALVIN COOK IN THE FLAT. At least he tackled him before he scored. Then Oliver, who was one on one with Theilen all night, got abused and scored on. Theilen clearly pushed off, but this was the obvious bad match up in the passing game and would’ve been there all night. Why Quinn didn ‘t scheme some kinda man/zone to counter this bad matchup is beyond me. Even if Oliver wasnt young, his size and skill set does not match up well with Theilen. Oliver should’ve at least been physical at the LOS with Theilen. OK...Vikes up 7-0. We still in the game. Ensuing kick, Barner, who otherwise had a decent night returning, made a boneheaded play bringing the ball out of the end zone and getting tackled 10 yards shy of the 25. Boneheaded against the vikes, but not the worst. Falcons 1st and 10 at their own 15. Ryan makes the first of two completely boneheaded INT’s that went on and killed the falcons completely. Ryan had no business throwing to Julio being he was bracketed. “He was trying to make a play” ********, it was 1st down, not 3rd. Again, instead of a normal straight ahead run that got us 4-5 yards a play all night, we did what we had no business doing throwing the ball there. Were we coaching for the vikes? Vikes get the ball, and after another complete fail at defending the outside zone, blowing contain, not maintaining gap, etc….Cook scores. 14-0. Next drive...instead of running the ball straight ahead, which was working, not dominating, but wo rking, Koetter calls not one but two toss sweeps, which got blowed up, and a double reverse. WOW. On a second and 19, Julio put a slick double move on his defender, and even though the defender ran into and got run over by Julio(Which was clearly illegal contact btw and right infront of the ref)leaving him wide open for a TD, Ryan over threw him by 5 yards, missing a sure TD that would’ve made it a one score game. ON 3rd and 19, Gage was open down the sideline for a 1st down and Ryan over threw him, almost getting Gage killed after he made an outstanding catch. For the second time in a row, Ryan missed a wide open throw that either scores a td or extends the drive in two score game. Maybe Ryan was shell shocked from getting blowed up that first play. Cousins got blowed up worse and made plays. Ryan didnt. Make of that what you will. Next vikes drive, Beasely has a clean shot from Cousins blind side, but for some ungodly reason, lets up and then dont wrap up, missing a drive killing sack. From then on, yall know what happened. The offense finally started clicking somewhat. Folks are debating the 2 point tries which are irrelevant at that point. All this being said, what is relevant is this. At this point in Quinns tenure here, this is unexcusable. “They had a new scheme and coordinator.” So did we. And the giants. The cowboys. And several other teams that didnt epically fail like we did. The vikes beat us running for 150+ plus yards on the same play over and over. Not because they blocked us up or executed, but because we failed in basic outside zone defense, something we have been practising against since Quinn got here every practice. The vikes beat us because in our first four drives, a boneheaded punt protection error and two boneheaded ints by a veteran mvp qb. I dont know what to think about this. I been drinking the Quinn kool aid, until now. I’m not giving up yet, but if the eagles game brings the same sorry performance, I think the season, and Quinns tenure, are over. Please lemme know how yall see things. Agree?Disagree?
  3. Yep. That's why body shots, I.E. The running game, is so vital to success.
  4. Wow...2 straight 4th and goal stuffs. WTF? I understood the first time, but not this time.
  5. My god...the speed #41 showed chasing down the qb. My god....the uga depth at rb.
  6. I believe dline comes ready to eat. Takk and Grady have a sack each. Jones gets an int. Devonte has 2 tds. Falcs 28 Vikes 13
  7. I been harping this point all week, but I will harp again, IMO the falcons dline will feast against the vikes oline, which consists of a rookie center, a new guy at rg, and meh at the other oline spots. They are just now learning the zone blocking scheme, and none of them are over 300 pounds. I dont think they will be able to run the ball on us as penetration kills zone running plays, and judging from the preseason, the dline balled out. I dont think they can block us up.
  8. I been harping this point all week, but I will harp again, IMO the falcons dline will feast against the vikes oline, which consists of a rookie center, a new guy at rg, and meh at the other oline spots. They are just now learning the zone blocking scheme, and none of them are over 300 pounds. I dont think they will be able to run the ball on us as penetration kills zone running plays, and judging from the preseason, the dline balled out. I dont think they can block us up.
  9. Dang....small world. I grew up in Winston...Douglas county high class of 85. Went to what was then Carrol tech for electronics. Youngbloodz...your mom aint one of them Pounds is she?
  10. Same here. My old *** has joined team vape. That kingpen dont play.
  11. Hate it for Gono. He played really well this preseason, he will be back though. I aint sweating the Julio deal. It aint been an issue to this point, whatever is happening behind the scenes, history to this point from both sides says Julio will play. Whatever the issue is, it's none of my or anyone elses business. I trust it will be worked out.
  12. Hate that for Gono. He played his *** off this preseason. No matter what, the future looks bright for the falcons oline.
  13. Exactly. Dled dont come off as a dude that likes sports....at all. He comes off as a dude who was put in the sports section because he didnt make the cut to write news stories.
  14. Thanks. Me too because I fear next weeks match up more than this weeks. The eagles do have one of the best olines in the league. Then there is Fletcher Cox. However, we owe both these teams, especially the eagles.
  15. I agree. They have a rookie center, a new rg, and youth at the other spots. And, they are learning the outside zone scheme. They do not have a pro bowl LT and C like the falcons do to offset the youth.
  16. Fair enough. Maybe I am being a little over optimistic. Been a falcon fan a long time, longer than most here been alive though. I dont get excited easy. Im not basing my opinion on paper only, nor amthe only old timer here that holds this opnion. I Do you remember our first year implementing the outside zone? It wasnt pretty early on. Kubiak is awesome. But they have two brand new olineman. They do not have a pro bowl left tackle or all pro center like the falcons do. If I were in their shoes.....I would be sweating bullets wondering who to double team here. They can only double team one guy, Grady? That leaves Takk, Crawford(Both of which have been ballin this preseason), Clay, and Beasely in 1 vs 1 matchups. Oh yeah, their best receiver hasn't practiced in a good while either. I aint saying it's a given. I been wrong before, and if I am wrong, I will be here to eat my crow(I like mine med rare). Thanks for the reply and for the debate.
  17. Same here. Against the skins he faced and more than held his own against Loannidis and Kerrigan. Sweat got him on a coupla speed rushes until the next drive when Gono rebounded after having been coached up. Those are not scrubs, and I was impressed.
  18. Agreed. Nobis played in a different era than Deion. It was a different game, it was real football without the flash and fancy. It was a running league then, and Nobis was just as or more dominant against the run than Deion was against the pass. Teams had to gameplan around Nobis vs go through him.
  19. Homerish? The vikings interior oline is manned by a rookie and two meh guards, one of which has 3 years experience and the other is new. This aint the eagles oline. And they running outside zone for the first time together. Two new guys, one a rookie, going against Grady and company. What makes you think different? Please enlighten me. Have you watched the dline play this preseason? If they can't block up the interior of the falcon dline, the birds win. I dont think they can. I stand by my post.
  20. Great stuff. What's next in the evolution of the chess match between offenses and defenses? 3 man backfields and the wing T like we ran in high school?
  21. I am lucky enough to have seen Nobis play in person. Even as a young kid, his dominance on the field was obvious and apparent. His off the field accomplishments mirror his on the field ones. He was larger than life, yet humble. He played the game like it should be played, with respect for the game and his opponent. As Csonka is quoted as saying, he would rather have played against Butkus than Nobis. It's long past time for Nobis to be in the HOF.
  22. Dear Pro Football Hall of Fame voters and football fans everywhere, I’m writing you today because it is time to do the right thing. It is time to rightfully acknowledge, appreciate, and celebrate one of the greatest to ever play the game: the late Tommy Nobis. We can – we should – do that by immortalizing Nobis with a bronze bust at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio. And here is why I feel so strongly about it. For the past 30-plus years, Nobis was affectionately known as “Mr. Falcon” because he was the first player ever selected by the Atlanta Falcons when they made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 1966 NFL Draft and, as importantly, because of everything he brought to the organization on and off the field. From the minute Nobis stepped onto the field at the old Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, he was a difference-maker. Teams may not have feared the Falcons, but they surely feared playing against Tommy. After stockpiling a mind-boggling 294 combined tackles during his first season – a mark that still stands as the Falcons’ all-time single-season record and is unofficially the most tackles ever credited to one player in NFL history – Nobis was voted Rookie of the Year and selected to the first of five Pro Bowls in his career. That’s right, Tommy was selected to the Pro Bowl five of his 11-year career while playing on a non-competitive team. He went on to lead the Falcons in tackles in nine of his 11 seasons and was named All-Pro twice (first team in 1967 and second team in 1968). Nobis was later named to the NFL’s All-Decade Team for the 1960s. That team, for whatever it’s worth, was selected by Pro Football Hall of Fame voters at the end of the decade. The Falcons came into the league as an expansion team when Nobis began his career and they achieved at a level that the NFL expansion rules were designed to – they were not competitive for many, many years. How bad were they? In the 11 seasons Nobis played in Atlanta, the Falcons had just two winning seasons – in 1971 and 1973. They never made the playoffs. They played in a baseball stadium. They were almost never on national TV. In short, not a whole lot of people saw Nobis and the often overlooked and easily forgettable Falcons play. He was hardly a household name. I grew up in Los Angeles and barely noticed that the Falcons were in the same division as the Rams back then – and I certainly couldn’t tell you much about Nobis’s career as a Falcon, not until I came to Atlanta and felt his impact on the franchise. It certainly didn’t help that Nobis played during a time when another linebacker and future Hall of Famer named **** Butkus was starring in Chicago for the Bears. My NFL life began in 1976 when my Dad, John McKay, came to Tampa to coach the expansion Buccaneers. From that experience, I know how hard it was to succeed with the then NFL expansion rules that the Falcons and Tommy had faced in 1966. "I'd rather play against **** Butkus than Nobis." – Larry Csonka, former Miami Dolphin and Hall of Famer Nobis didn’t always play in obscurity; he was the top selection in ’66 – one pick ahead of Michigan guard and future Hall of Famer Tom Mack – for a reason. A two-way star playing both linebacker and guard at Texas, Nobis is the only college player ever to win both the Outland Trophy (top interior lineman) and Maxwell Trophy (best all-around player) in 1965. Despite finishing seventh in the Heisman Trophy voting that same year, he still managed to garner more votes than Bob Griese and Steve Spurrier. At a time when college football was more popular than pro football, Nobis was the premiere player on one of the best teams in the land. How good were those Nobis-led Longhorns? They won the 1963 national championship over Roger Staubach and Navy. And in 1964, then they toppled Joe Namath and Alabama in the Orange Bowl. Those were two pretty good quarterbacks. And during a time when the internet, cell phones and social media didn’t even exist, Sports Illustrated declared Nobis “The Best Defender in College Football” on its cover on Oct. 18, 1965. LIFE magazine also featured Nobis on its Dec. 10, 1965, cover story about the NFL and the former AFL competing for college stars calling him the “nation’s best defensive college player.” Nobis didn’t always play in obscurity; he was the top selection in ’66 – one pick ahead of Michigan guard and future Hall of Famer Tom Mack – for a reason. A two-way star playing both linebacker and guard at Texas, Nobis is the only college player ever to win both the Outland Trophy (top interior lineman) and Maxwell Trophy (best all-around player) in 1965. Despite finishing seventh in the Heisman Trophy voting that same year, he still managed to garner more votes than Bob Griese and Steve Spurrier. At a time when college football was more popular than pro football, Nobis was the premiere player on one of the best teams in the land. – Dan Dierdorf, former St. Louis Cardinal and Hall of Famer He was a pretty big deal. And when he got to Atlanta, he more than lived up to all of the lofty expectations. I know, I know – the Pro Football Hall of Fame is about his pro career. The same was true with my Dad’s first pick in Tampa Bay, Lee Roy Selmon in 1976. Lee Roy only played nine years (1976-1984) in the league, but his impact on and off the field in Tampa was enormous. For that, Lee Roy was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1995. So, let’s make sure we fully appreciate what Tommy accomplished in those 11 years. The thing is, unless you played with Nobis or against him, you couldn’t truly appreciate his greatness. I haven’t even mentioned the incredible contributions Nobis had off the field with his foundation – The Tommy Nobis Center – that was founded in 1977 to support the community of people with disabilities in the Atlanta area. It started with just three employees and has now helped more than 25,000 people across 24 states. More than 40 years later, the Tommy Nobis Center continues to provide education, training to support those with barriers to find real jobs. Nobis was an amazing football player and even better human being. Nobis, whose No. 60 was never worn by another Falcons player and eventually retired by the team, was an inaugural member of the 2004 Falcons Ring of Honor. Not surprisingly, he's also a member of many more honorary teams and hall of fames: College Football Hall of Fame Atlanta Sports Hall of Fame Georgia Sports Hall of Fame San Antonio Sports Hall of Fame State of Texas Hall of Fame Sports Illustrated’s College Football All-Century Team Tommy Nobis earned the moniker Mr. Falcon. He played every game with everything he had at the highest level. It’s time to do the right thing. It’s time to put Tommy Nobis into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Sincerely, Rich McKay President and CEO of the Atlanta Falcons
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