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  1. 3 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

    Where’s anyone said he’s not in the same class ?

    All anyone said is he can’t be considered the best if he isn’t on the field.

    Is this seriously what your coming back with it feels like your guns run out of bullets.

    Maybe so...cause I really wasnt trying to argue against Juilo..just think at one point..it was fair to debate them both.

  2. 2 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

    Don’t worry Larry Jerry and Cris think different if you can’t accept that companies opinion your just flat out wrong.Jerry had this opinion 2011-12 when Julio was drafted.

    That's cool...I dont remember ever saying rice, chris etc. Were wrong. But ok.

    Just like that we are acting like AB ain't In the same class as Juilo. Before he became an idoit...cool.

  3. 4 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

    No your points are stupid your trying to use an argument that is proven wrong and has been proven wrong in numerous posts.

    You don’t have to be against Julio just accept points being put to you.

    Ha ha nobody would have had AB in front of Juilo let's say..2018...0r 2017..this was a hands down arguement the minute they become stars....got it!

    This is my fault...cause this was not that serious to begin with..for me.

     

  4. 5 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

    So Jerry Rice Cris Carter and Larry Fitzgerald’s words don’t carry any weight.

    Fans and media hacks are you serious or would you care to listen to ex players who have played the position at a similar or higher level talk.

    On the field your contradicting yourself AB isn’t on the field and your going off of what was.Julios still playing.The idea that you dismiss the off field as unimportant on it is exactly why AB is in the position he’s in now.

    Its not a comparison if one guy is basically retired off of his own antics and now can’t get a job because no one will touch him but here’s you dismissing off field as not as important.

     

    This is stupid..lol and?

    I am not against juilo...

  5. 1 minute ago, Vandy said:

    My only “partner” is my bride. And you fail to comprehend the difference between folks laughing at you vs being “sensitive”. 

    Laughing at what? I am not for or against AB or juilo in anyway. My only point Is at some point many felt that way...like this ain't arguing a GOAT QB to who is about to be a journey men QB, stop with that B.S....

     

     

  6. 1 minute ago, Vandy said:

    Jameis Winston arguably had  better “stats” last year than Tom Brady....threw for 20% more yards, > 35% more TDs..   Dis that make him the better QB? 

    You do realize you are making an argument against your partner above you talking about stat. Right

    Why so sensitive.  Again I ask?like its ridiculous...

    How dear another reciever says he is better/was better than Juilo.

     

  7. I am not a Falcons fan and you guys are making my point. You guys are getting bent out of shape cause another wide out "dear" says he is better than "your" wide out. Which he is not far off if he is incorrect in anyway.

    Not just stats but yea the eye test says the same..as crazy as AB is...he was not wrong to say he is..or .6 lesser than Julio when he played.

    Fans outside of this forum would put up a good argument for AB.  So it's not "laughable" that AB said that..

    Like .6 is not even comparing apples to oranges..it's like apples to apples

    attitude aside...we're talking about on the field...we all know who we would rather deal w. When it comes down to personality 

  8. 1 hour ago, Vandy said:

    I don’t need to bro, I know what’s real. Even if you could find 10 other posters.....most of whom have gone radio silent after what has transpired with brown over past year...it wouldn’t change my mind. 
     

    Long before he melted down to ashes, I would have taken Julio over that attention-whore every single time. 

    That's the thing..its not about who YOU would take..its the simple part of my sentence you chose to highlight.

     

    And I would say plenty outside of a fan forum would of said AB before the break down was the better receiver.

  9. 7 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

    AB has Seen more single coverages. It’s like beating a dead horse. 

    And why this convo would need to be taken to a neutral ground. I am not gonna get into it here..i can see the excuses comig..

    Julio is great/all time...think and I think most outside of Atl would have given the nod to AB before AB turned himself into "mr..big chest"

    Not saying he was miles better. But I think there was a time AB was widely considered the best in the game. 

     

  10. 11 hours ago, Vandy said:

    Meh, that was always debatable. 

    Want to try having the convo outside of a Falcons fan forum?

     

    In fact a couple months back this same topic was brought up here and I cannot remember the poster.

     

    But the stats he brought into the convo/debate were pretty telling. When AB was playing. He was the better receiver.

    I really wish I remember who were the two posters going at it.

  11. @gazoo

    I am in full agreement with you on Brady  benefited from BB and BB benefited from Brady. No one above the other

     

    But this whole " oh wore is Matt Ryan" thing..like he went to a SB already and should of won..there been plenty of great QBs that won despite not having "genius" at coaching, OL, players or GM.

     

    Matt Ryan is who he is..would it help him more to have better access of  course, but Ryan is who he is.

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    30 minutes ago, gazoo said:

    Having a good pocket helps all QBs perform better. This is true.

    What about the other side of the coin?

    Having no pocket for every year but 2016 has not stopped Ryan from being  one of the best QBs in the NFL.

    Brady collapses without a pocket. 

    ha ha always with this..I will answer it this way.

    Matt Ryan is a top 10 QB in the league. Not in history only in the league now.

    Brady is top 10/top 5 in history and arguably/universally known as the GOAT. Matt Ryan..does not crack that historical list by anyone outside of this forum (not saying most posters here feel this way--just for the ones that might). So there you go. IF You wanna make a case for Ryan not having protection, take it up with your owner or GM.

    I don't have a problem with Matt Ryan think he is a great QB..Anytime Atlanta wants to send him back up this way..I would be all for it! He is just not in the class of the greatest quarterbacks (and I do mean pural-not just one) of all time.

  13. 35 minutes ago, gazoo said:

    Apparently you’ve not seen Matt Ryan play. Last year when a journalist asked him if he considered himself a pocket QB, he replied “what is a pocket?” 

    The one season he had good pocket protection, the kind Brady has had almost his entire career, Ryan was the NFLs MVP and led the 7th highest scoring offense in NFL history.

    so you are making my point.

  14. 1 hour ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

    They offered him $23 mil., so they didn't want him back.  If he was the Brady of the past, they would have offered him $40 mil.  He's not near the same player, and he won't be that good for TB next year.

    None of this is true. The Brady of the past didn't get 40mil. He always took a discount -and a few years ago...BB was going to let Brady  walk for Jimmy G. Kraft put a stop to that..that is why Jimmy G is in San Fran now.

     

    and Kraft left it up BB to handle this time around and per sources...BB didn't offer Brady nearly that much.

  15. 4 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    Yet they averaged over 26 ppg.  Three of his starting OL missed most of the year.  Both FB’s out for the year...the AB debacle.  Same with Josh Gordon.  Gronk  retired leaving Brady no TE’s really...and his 2nd and 3rd receivers were Jakobi Myers & Phillip Dorset.  
     

    And the Falcons with few injuries and weapons everywhere scored 24 ppg.   Brady is fine

    Close the thread now.

     

    And there's a big difference in NE signing him and TB signing him.

    For one. One had the money to sign him the other one didnt.

     

    And two..At some point NE was going to have to start over. U rather do it now than when it's too late.

  16. 10 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

    Im definitely not blaming Julio.. Let me be clear, im asking what was the front offices reasoning for giving up so much to get the guy.. 

    This whole thread is pointless.

    Cuz every coach and GM past on what was to become HOF talent at some point.

    Look at all the teams that past on Brady...or Joe Montana...*insert HOF'er here*

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