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  1. That’s the reason Smith was considered a promising candidate. Everyone saw the Titans go on a run with Ty Sambrailo starting at RT.
  2. The Falcons stink but they're just a normal stinky NFL team. It's possible the Jags hired the next Bobby Petrino and the Jets drafted the next Josh Rosen, which opens them up to beyond normal NFL stinking.
  3. I forget which play but he sealed the edge on a running play nice, too.
  4. It's interesting to think about players like Patterson, Ted Ginn, and others who did not give the teams that drafted them the kind of careers they had hoped, but they still play for really solid 15-year careers.
  5. As I answered later.... I have a soft spot for the 2017 team. It had the best defense of the Quinn era. But without the Shanahan offense it wasn't the same. The 2016 team averaged 36 points per game in the playoffs. The 2017 averaged 18 PPG. That wasn't going to win a Super Bowl, despite how competitive the Eagles game was. That said, just because I said the window closed doesn't mean they had to tear down the team. All I'm saying is they should have just made smart, long term oriented moves instead of going all-in to win now. They still would have been a good team. The most obvious bad decision they made was re-signing Freeman. He was still under contract so if they didn't re-sign him he would have held out in camp and then showed up week 1 and probably had the same mediocre season he had. Then they might have just let him go. That obviously would have been a net positive move. The other obviously short sighted move they made was targeting and moving up for Takk McKinley in the draft. If they didn't do that, 2 other scenarios would have happened. The first scenario is no one picks McKinley between picks 26 and 31 and the Falcons still pick him without trading a 3rd rounder. Some of the players picked right after that 3rd rounder were Kenny Golladay, Jonnu Smith, Trey Hendrickson, James Conner, Eddie Jackson, and Carl Lawson. If they missed out on Takk at #31 there were good players available, but most of them were offensive linemen and safeties and I just don't see the Falcons making those picks at that time. Dalvin Cook was there, too, but Dimitroff did not have much of a history with picking RBs high.
  6. I don't feel like the Chiefs are a good example at all. Their drafting has been really really bad for a while. Mahomes and Reid are simply that good they make up for it. The Ravens are perpetually the model team because they play the draft and free agency games perfectly and have won with multiple different types of QBs.
  7. They actually did a pretty good job rewarding the players that needed to be rewarded while they were bad. Lavonte David, William Gholston, Mike Evans, Donovan Smith, and Ali Marpet are all homegrown players on second contracts. They did a good job cutting bait on Jameis Winston, Vernon Hargeaves, and Mark Barron before needlessly giving them extensions. They did re-sign Kwon Alexander to a big deal but unloaded him early and got something in return.
  8. At times I wonder how the Bucs can pay so many players but it's a lot easier when you only have $3M in dead cap.
  9. It sounds great but you still have to play the draft. The Falcons took a lot of flack for picking Calvin Ridley in 2018 as he was another shiny hood ornament but that draft did not set up for pass rushers. If they prioritized a pass rusher that year at #26, they undoubtedly would have picked Taven Bryan, who has been terrible.
  10. People say that but most of the time if you're an offensive linemen and you're getting your butt kicked by the guy in front of you, you're the one doing something wrong.
  11. I'm dating myself again but one other PFF poster child was Michael Bennett. Bennett's first season of real playing time was in 2011 on a bad Bucs team. He had 4 sacks. PFF rated him a top 10 DE because he had a ton of pressures and declared him unlucky to get so many pressures and so few sacks. The next season he had 9 sacks. He didn't get along with Greg Schiano so signed with Seattle and the rest is history.
  12. Offensive linemen aren't that hard to evaluate since they are always on the TV screen. My PFF anecdote is old at this point but I haven't followed for a long time. Circa 2009 journeyman OG Evan Mathis filled in half a season with the Bengals and PFF rated him like top 5 for the season. He became a free agent in 2011 and the Eagles signed him to a 1 year minimum type deal. He started the whole season and played great. After that they signed him to a big deal. He made the Pro Bowl in 2013 and 2014. PFF saw that Mathis was playing great before anyone else.
  13. Historically, it's hard to be really really bad if you have any sort of a decent QB. Despite Ryan's potential decline, he's still decent but with the rules changes and modernization of college football, almost every QB is at least decent. Jared Goff went to a Super Bowl. Tyrod Taylor has a winning record as a starter on some not very good teams. You're only looking at the Jets and Jags as being obviously worse.
  14. I have a soft spot for the 2017 team. It had the best defense of the Quinn era. But without the Shanahan offense it wasn't the same. The 2016 team averaged 36 points per game in the playoffs. The 2017 averaged 18 PPG. That wasn't going to win a Super Bowl, despite how competitive the Eagles game was. That said, just because I said the window closed doesn't mean they had to tear down the team. All I'm saying is they should have just made smart, long term oriented moves instead of going all-in to win now. They still would have been a good team. The most obvious bad decision they made was re-signing Freeman. He was still under contract so if they didn't re-sign him he would have held out in camp and then showed up week 1 and probably had the same mediocre season he had. Then they might have just let him go. That obviously would have been a net positive move. The other obviously short sighted move they made was targeting and moving up for Takk McKinley in the draft. If they didn't do that, 2 other scenarios would have happened. The first scenario is no one picks McKinley between picks 26 and 31 and the Falcons still pick him without trading a 3rd rounder. Some of the players picked right after that 3rd rounder were Kenny Golladay, Jonnu Smith, Trey Hendrickson, James Conner, Eddie Jackson, and Carl Lawson. If they missed out on Takk at #31 there were good players available, but most of them were offensive linemen and safeties and I just don't see the Falcons making those picks at that time. Dalvin Cook was there, too, but Dimitroff did not have much of a history with picking RBs high.
  15. There was only one fundamental mistake - not understanding the 2016 window closed after 2016. He kept chasing that season until he was fired.
  16. I might have overshot that. Now that I look up Maddox again, he wasn't terribly good in that late career run he had with the Steelers.
  17. As to the main question here, when it comes to building for the longterm, you can't pigeonhole yourself to certain positions in certain rounds in certain years. You have to play the draft. Talent is not equal. You rarely choose between multiple all-pro players at different positions. Usually there is just one or two all-pros and then a bunch of guys. You have to pick the all-pros*. *Unless they're running backs because running backs don't matter.
  18. I hope Rosen can be the next Tommy Maddox reclamation project but let's not ignore how the transition from Rosen to Kyler Murray went. The Cards were terrible with Rosen and then the next year with most of the same players and Murray, they weren't quite good but it was clear they were heading in the right direction. Most of the times with QBs, it's clear who the good ones are pretty quickly. Just like what happened with Matt Ryan in 2008.
  19. But lots of QBs are just lousy whether they're on a good or bad team. You still have to avoid them and find someone who isn't lousy which is easier said than done.
  20. That's what I'm wondering. PFF is not supposed to be skewed by 1-2 really good or really bad plays. It's supposed to represent the whole game.
  21. The problem is between some combination of Ryan's arm, the offensive scheme, and the skill players, the Falcons don't have much ability to rip off big plays and get easy yards. As good as the offense seemed to look, they only averaged 5.0 yards per play. That's at the bottom of the NFL. When it takes so many plays to score, you just open yourself up to eventually making a mistake to blow it before you can score. And that's what happened yesterday.
  22. This is a good rep. Much better lean and bend than in the Auburn game.
  23. Yeah, Suh got McGary on that stunt. I wouldn't say the Falcons handled the entire front well, but the quick passing game really negated Barrett and JPP. The interior was still a problem.
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