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  1. On reddit a lot of Celtics fans are complaining about rebounding already lmao (I can't wait until they face the Cavs and Tristan Thompson makes Horford his little *****).  

    We played very fast paced at times last night and were a bit out of control.  Other than that, we have added rebounding, and actually have offensive rebounding.  I think we can focus a lot more on the perimeter with Dwight in the paint vs the Cavs.  They killed us with the 3's last season and I think they will have to beat us in another way this season.  I am feeling good about taking a few from the Cavs.

  2. With the season starting tomorrow (!!!), I thought it would be fun to go ahead and predict the record for our Atlanta Hawks Basketball Club in the upcoming season.  We can revisit at the end of the season and see who was right and who was wrong.  Feel free to add any other predictions you have for the season (ex: Dennis Schroder MVP).  


    I'll keep a tally here: 

    ATL_DirtyBirds: 53-29

  3. 4 minutes ago, MSalmon said:

    No argument from me. As I said before Allen is adequate. But the reality is if we pick in late 20s (hopefully 32) it's tough to get a true pass rusher/edge guy. Yes, there are good DT types late but those can be found in round 2. We are, however, at a great spot for a FS or CB who we can convert. Good crop of DBs in this drat.

    talking FA options I'll go for the establish pass rusher any day.

    I agree.  I dont believe in us selecting strictly de first based on a need there.  If there is a fs there that is better than a de, take the fs.  I just think that DL is the biggest need.

    Pass rushers cost a lot and we haven't done well in FA with that area so I am a bit concerned.

  4. The focus still has to be on the DL imo.  We have Beasley as a DE, but just have strop gaps at the other DE positon - Freeney, Clayborn, ?? - all of these guys are stop gaps.  We need to get a young player to put on the other side.  Same can be said about DT as well with Grady Jarrett (Derrick Shelby?? Hageman??).  We have relied so long on just FA acquisitions for this position (Clayborn, Shelby, Freeney, Jackson, Solai, Edwards, etc), we really need to be using some picks here. 


    There's no question that Allen could be upgraded though, but I feel we have a more pressing issue at the DL positions.  The good thing about Allen is, that he isn't going to hurt us so he is serviceable for a bit.   

  5. As an Indiana fan, I knew that his rookie season was not at all a true depiction of his skills, seemed like he just wasn't acclimated to pro life and now he is. Beautiful job by Shannahan to put him on the outside knowing that the Broncos like man coverage, which forces a LB on him.  There isn't a LB in the NFL that is going to be able to cover Coleman on a go route.  Also, I have been jizzing in my pants since Sunday's performance by Coleman haha.

  6. As an Indiana guy, I love Tevin and I always knew he could do things like this.  Still waiting for the long rushes tho.  


    Also, I think this speaks about the team mentality we keep hearing from Julio, Free, Quinn, etc that he was willing to do this for the team.  

  7. Jones has definitely shown that he has skills that we have been missing for a while.  Great speed and closing speed, coverage ability, and tackling (as others have mentioned the goal-line stop yesterday though he still sometimes misses on some tackles).  But like any rookie he has to be more consistent and him and Campbell both need better gap integrity.  


    I'd rather have guys out there with the skill sets of Jones and Campbell vs Worrilow, you aren't gonna get much faster or athletic and it's easier to learn the game (anyone who has played a sport and jumped from one level to the next knows there is a different in speed of the game and takes time for the game to slow down).  The film that keeps coming in my mind of Worrilow is vs the Vikings where he was absolutely destroyed by AP play after play.

  8. Let's not forget another thing.  Alice Whoreford changed his Twitter to this huge Celtic **** tweeting out Celtic Pride.  He has yet to thank the Hawks, teammates, coaches, fans, or anything during his 9 years here. Jeremy Lin spent a season in Charlotte and did way more than horford who always said he loved the city blah blah team chemistry here is unbelievable blah blah.  This guy tried to portray himself as some professional player but we see now he's just a slimeball.  Go get bodied by kelly olynk in practice 

  9. I feel that the sack numbers are not what we should be concerned with. This defensive scheme rarely sends blitzes and relies on the front 4 to generate pressure while the secondary forces short passes that the LBs swarm to.  Yes we do not have dominant pass rushers but with the ideas above, the goal of the defense is to force dumb downs that LBs can stop quickly. 

  10. Round 1: Leonard Floyd OLB 6'6" 245 lbs.

    • We all know by know the phrase "fast and physical" that has been repeated over and over again.  Its also clear that this pick could likely come down to Darron Lee or Leonard Floyd.  I am not in love with either prospect.  Both guys have speed, but they can really be blown off the ball by blockers.  Lee is explosive in the open field, but I just have questions whether or not he can withstand the physicality of being in the box.  Now, my ideal situation is to trade back and select one of these two (or maybe Cravens) and get the extra draft pick.  I have us selecting Floyd here (I have a feeling Lee will be gone by when we select too).  He brings a good motor, athletic ability, and versatility to our defense.  I encourage all of you to watch these two videos and judge for yourself.  Lee looks bad, and Floyd was avoided but he did show some good awareness at 5:20.


    Round 2: Su'a Cravens SS 6'1" 226 lbs.

    • Like I said above, I would be totally ok with trading back and selecting Cravens earlier.  Cravens is another athletic, versatile defender.  He plays with his hair on fire.  He has the instincts to sniff out where to go and the speed to get there in a hurry.  Cravens is a very smart player who does a great job with reading the offense and attacking the ball, but his aggressive style can sometimes cause him to miss a play.  


    Round 3: Javon Hargrave DT 6'1" 309 lbs.

    • I really love this guy.  I know there will be people who will immediately discredit him because he played FCS.  However, you look at the film and he reminds you of Aaron Donald and Grady Jarret.  He has outstanding burst and get off to beat OL right off the snap.  Uses his hands well and his explosion off the snap along with his strength, gives him a good bull rush.  He is going to be a steal for someone and I hope it is us.


    Round 4: Ronald Blair DE 6'2" 284 lbs.

    • Another small school DL prospect that could be a steal for us here.  Incredibly long arms and has a relentless motor to chase down plays and finish plays.  Very good physical tools that I think Quinn and Co. could mold into a valuable piece for our defense.  


    Round 7: Antwione Williams OLB 6'3" 247 lbs.

    • Very physical LB who hits with some power.  He might could play MLB and be the enfrocer we are missing.


  11. 6 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said:

    You just want us to knock opposing players' helmets off, that's how you wanna win!!! And i like it.

    we have definately seen that this is still true. seahawks, broncos, panthers, etc all have the fast and physical defenses.  with our offensive weapons, if we can get an above average defense with several play makers, we could really have great success.

  12. 6 minutes ago, Kayoh said:

    Sorry, that might have come off as an attempt to discredit Cravens. It wasn't. I like Cravens, and he'd make for a solid Will LB in a traditional 4-3 defense. For us though, we desperately need a big, hard hitting, enforcer type SS that is basically just a smaller LB anyway. Cravens fits that mold to a T. I guess technically he could play Will for us but historically Quinn has used his Mike and Will LBs interchangeably, so he'd need to get better at taking on blockers and other aspects of run defense to play Will for us. As a SS though he'd be more focused on covering and beating blocks from TEs rather than covering RBs and beating OL/FB blocks.

    Ok yes this does make sense.  When I saw his weight I was definately a bit shocked because I thought he was a bit bigger than 225.  I feel like he could be a good Dime LB or hybrid LB/S in other situations.  

  13. 46 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said:

    Based off your first 3 picks I think it's safe to say you want us to kill opposing offences. 

    I still have faith that our offense can be productive.  Making the leap to the playoffs and competing against the top tier teams, I believe we need to increase speed and talent on the defensive side.  With this draft, hopefully that happens and we can see more improvements with our defense.

  14. 3 hours ago, Kayoh said:

    Cravens is 100% a SS in our system. I like that pick and I like Cravens for us at SS, but then you drafted another SS in the 3rd that could have been another position imo.

    I don't see how Cravens can be said to be a 100% SS for us, could you explain your reasoning on that?

  15. 6 hours ago, Sobeit said:

    I like it but would like to get a decent TE somewhere in there. I'm not a huge fan of Cravens I think many want Cravens to be Thompson and I don't see it. Another OG  to look at late that should be a good fit for our scheme is Joe Thuney from NC state also.

    I think we can sign a servicable TE in FA.  I would rather build the defense up then draft a TE.  However, I am not opposed to drafting a TE or WR depending on how the 1st and early 2nd rounds of the draft start out.

    • Round 1: Darron Lee OLB - 6'1" 232 lbs.

    Everyone knows by now the speed that Lee posseses.  Extremely athletic and rangy player.  Still very new to the position but has shown good instincts and explodes to the ball and on tackles.  Very aggressive player and reminds me a bit of Ryan Shazier.  Fits the mold for the type of LB Quinn wants.  Highly productive in college as well to back up his physical tools.


    • Round 2: Su'a Cravens OLB - 6'1" 226 lbs.

    Very much similar to Lee.  Has not played as a LB much, but was very productive doing so.  Former safety so he has the ability to drop in coverage and potentially go out wide.  Another highly aggressive player that will fly to the ball and is a violent hitter.  Plays with great instincts and awareness.  With the addition of Cravens and Lee, our LB core will follow the "fast and physical" ideal with two young studs.


    • Round 3: Karl Joseph SS - 5'10" 205 lbs.

    Joseph is another very aggressive and physical player.  Reminds me a bit of Lamarcus Joyner, a player that isn't huge, but flies to the ball and hits violently.  Has great explosion to close on throws as well as tackling offensive players. 


    • Round 4: Jihad Ward DE/DT - 6'5" 297 lbs.

    A bit of a tweener between DE and DT.  He is very much a project type player who could pay off.  Has not developed good technique yet, but with Quinn I think this could definately improve.  Has great physical tools, but his lack of technique as he was a WR for much his career, led him not to produce much.  Boom or bust player.


    • Round 7: Jordan Walsh OG/C - 6'3" 290 lbs.

    Could potentially play either OG or C on the next level.  Has 36 career starts, showing consistency and experience.  Very good technique, but not an overpowering type player.  Shows good mobility in reaching 2nd level.


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