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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from g-dawg in 15 days out....G-Dawg's thoughts on Falcons #4 pick   
    Fields has been my "ONLY QB @ 4" option since Day 1. Love Matt and very intrigued by the idea of adding Pitts, but if he's available, it's a no-brainer to me. Fields has all the tools to be an elite QB at the next level and to give him the ability to learn from Matt Ryan would set him up for immediate success when he does get the nod. 
    Now if Fields is gone then I'm locked in on 2 guys. The first is obviously Kyle Pitts. He's got the physical talent that has rarely been seen coming out of the draft. Adding him gives us potentially 3 guys that require additional coverage help to prevent from doing major damage vs 1 on 1 cover. Unless we get a substantial package, his upside is just too massive to pass up.
    The other guy I'd be locked in on is Patrick Surtain. Now obviously this would be in a trade back, so we'd be adding at least a 2nd round pick to our war chest. And adding Surtain with Terrell gives a real possibility of fielding a much improved coverage unit on the outside, which was our biggest weakness. We'd have a young, fast and physical CB tandem in a division with elite WRs. Couple that with the ability to double dip in the 2nd and possibly more depending on the trade down deal, it's a very appealing. But let me be clear, whatever deal we'd take in this scenario would be geared at remaining high enough to draft Surtain. Outside of Fields and Pitts, he's the best impact for our team this year and moving forward...
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from mountain_jim3 in 15 days out....G-Dawg's thoughts on Falcons #4 pick   
    Fields has been my "ONLY QB @ 4" option since Day 1. Love Matt and very intrigued by the idea of adding Pitts, but if he's available, it's a no-brainer to me. Fields has all the tools to be an elite QB at the next level and to give him the ability to learn from Matt Ryan would set him up for immediate success when he does get the nod. 
    Now if Fields is gone then I'm locked in on 2 guys. The first is obviously Kyle Pitts. He's got the physical talent that has rarely been seen coming out of the draft. Adding him gives us potentially 3 guys that require additional coverage help to prevent from doing major damage vs 1 on 1 cover. Unless we get a substantial package, his upside is just too massive to pass up.
    The other guy I'd be locked in on is Patrick Surtain. Now obviously this would be in a trade back, so we'd be adding at least a 2nd round pick to our war chest. And adding Surtain with Terrell gives a real possibility of fielding a much improved coverage unit on the outside, which was our biggest weakness. We'd have a young, fast and physical CB tandem in a division with elite WRs. Couple that with the ability to double dip in the 2nd and possibly more depending on the trade down deal, it's a very appealing. But let me be clear, whatever deal we'd take in this scenario would be geared at remaining high enough to draft Surtain. Outside of Fields and Pitts, he's the best impact for our team this year and moving forward...
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from celtiksage in 15 days out....G-Dawg's thoughts on Falcons #4 pick   
    Fields has been my "ONLY QB @ 4" option since Day 1. Love Matt and very intrigued by the idea of adding Pitts, but if he's available, it's a no-brainer to me. Fields has all the tools to be an elite QB at the next level and to give him the ability to learn from Matt Ryan would set him up for immediate success when he does get the nod. 
    Now if Fields is gone then I'm locked in on 2 guys. The first is obviously Kyle Pitts. He's got the physical talent that has rarely been seen coming out of the draft. Adding him gives us potentially 3 guys that require additional coverage help to prevent from doing major damage vs 1 on 1 cover. Unless we get a substantial package, his upside is just too massive to pass up.
    The other guy I'd be locked in on is Patrick Surtain. Now obviously this would be in a trade back, so we'd be adding at least a 2nd round pick to our war chest. And adding Surtain with Terrell gives a real possibility of fielding a much improved coverage unit on the outside, which was our biggest weakness. We'd have a young, fast and physical CB tandem in a division with elite WRs. Couple that with the ability to double dip in the 2nd and possibly more depending on the trade down deal, it's a very appealing. But let me be clear, whatever deal we'd take in this scenario would be geared at remaining high enough to draft Surtain. Outside of Fields and Pitts, he's the best impact for our team this year and moving forward...
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to Herr Doktor in 15 days out....G-Dawg's thoughts on Falcons #4 pick   
    I honestly don't see Fields being at four.  
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to LaurentRobinsonDaGawd in We are going QB.   
    I was watching the new mini-movie on the Atlanta Falcons youtube channel. And then it clicked. AB NEVER wants to be picking around 4. He said it is not the standard we want to represent. I think he doesn't even want to be picking top 5 even the first year after Matt Ryan. He wants us to run an organization like the Steelers and Ravens. Where we are constantly looking to better the team. I think making an easy QB transition would be to take one WHEN we have a top 4 pick, instead of planning for a setback one day soon, or having to fork over a HUGE capital of draft picks. I think we have been making it seem a tougher choice so the fans know we are committed to Ryan and winning right now. I think Lance or Fields will be taken at 4, and we go BPA all draft. QB is a HUGE need and a great QB prospect is BPA over every other position of equal talent. A potential star QB is a better player over a generational TE or LT. It just makes sense. I am warming up to Fields and Lance. Would be great to add either. We must wait for Ryan to ACTUALLY fall off before we start asking for the young gun though. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from anygivensunday11 in Pick should be Kyle   
    Completely true. We don't know objectively whether he will be transcendent or not. We can only go based on what we do know. 
     
    Like the fact he's measured in at 6'6, clocked in at 4.4 in the 40 yd dash weighing in at 245, a longer wingspan than any WR or TE in the NFL (83 3/8") in the last 20 years and has a comparable build to Calvin Johnson. Those are better measurables for a pass catcher than anyone in the draft. 
    Objectively Pitts is bigger, stronger and faster than any WR in the draft but he's a TE. It may be a stretch to say he'll be a transcendent talent, but it's not a stretch to say he's got transcendent measurables. Moreso than any of the players you mentioned.
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from anygivensunday11 in Pick should be Kyle   
    I'm not trying to call Pitts Julio. I'm using Julio as a metaphor for a transcendent talent. 
    If it make it more palatable, an elite difference maker vs multiple lesser difference maker
    We made the Julio trade KNOWING we couldn't get Cincy to trade their pick and that they were going WR. We did like AJ, but we also really like Julio too. So our gambit was to get one of them with a preference for AJ. 
    And I also disagree with the idea we get a "just as good" prospect by trading back. That seems ridiculous to me. 
     
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from dfsutton in Another potential trade partner: Dallas   
    If that's what's being offered, you take it and don't look back. As much as I like Pitts, that's a offer you can't refuse
     
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from anygivensunday11 in Pick should be Kyle   
    This is largely theoretical. Fact is, it really depends on what the offers are who how highly you value a specific player.
    If you believe Pitts can come in and have a Gronk-like effect for your offense (Gronk had 27 TDs in his first 2 seasons ), then you absolutely value him very highly and it would take being blown away by an offer to give up the opportunity to draft him. Additionally, if a team it is looking to draft a certain QB and he's off the board by our pick, then why would you expect a below average offer to be worth taking? There is likely to be 3 QBs picked ahead of us. That means 3 teams will be able to go to the QB well for one of the 5 QBs that are being discussed taken this highly. Unless a team is willing to give us a huge deal for a non-QB, then the odds are that the player most guys would move up for will be gone. That would beg the question, "Would said team still offer that huge deal for a QB they had ranked as the 3rd or 4th best QB available?". 
    Just assuming some big offer will be there is not realistic. The most realistic chance to trade our pick is if a team likes a non-QB a lot and is willing to move up to get them. Outside of that I think we get low ball offers to move down. And if that's the case we should weigh taking a low ball offer against getting the guy we think can have a profound impact. 
    I'd rather get one guy we think can be truly transcendent than a few guys that don't move the needle consistently. One Julio is better than a Keanu Neal, Jalen Collins and Duke Riley. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to DonOfThemBirds in Peter Schrager's first mock of the year...   
    Pats moving up from 15 to 4 is a bigger jump than Niners 12 to 3.
     
    #4 is still a very valuable pick and a top 5 pick at that.
     
    Pats gonna have to give up the farm this year and next year's draft.
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to dcfalcons in Pick should be Kyle   
    If we don't trade down, to me it has to be Pitts.  He is clearly the BPA at 4 and reaching for one of the leftover QBs would be insane.  If TF and AS want to start off with the latter, I'd be extremely surprised. Yes, we need Ryan's replacement but it is NOT required this year as Ryan will be our starter next year and possibly the year after as a result of his contract.  Not to mention the fact that he isn't washed up like some people think.  He's been battered the past few years as a result of the previous management's failures to address the OL.  If he has time and now a weapon like Pitts in addition to Ridley, Julio and an actual running game, the offense will not be the problem.  Pitts is my pick with trade down the second option.  When you look at drafts, there are usually a few 'safe' picks and Pitts is one of them.  He's arguably the best player in this draft, so who GAF if we select him at 4.
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to Malachore in Rumors Fly Connecting Broncos to Falcon's No. 4 Pick After Atlanta Opens for Business - SI.com   
    Honestly if all Atlanta can get is an extra 2nd and 3rd then I'd hope they stay put and take Pitts.
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to Dirtybird56 in "He's the only thing saving Atlanta... Do you know what you could get for that No.4 pick?"   
    Yep passing is literally the only thing we’ve done well for years lmao. We say “hey Matt, no defense, zero run game, poor scheme and mediocre pass protection, go get em”
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to #84 in "He's the only thing saving Atlanta... Do you know what you could get for that No.4 pick?"   
    So hear me out according to the stories when normal rational people get possessed by a demon they ramble and begin to incoherently babble i.e. speaking in tongues.  But what if the inverse is also true those who normally babble incoherently get possessed and finally they start to say reasonable things.   Perhaps Cowturd needs an exorcist and him making a claim that is both rational and backed by facts is the only way he can think to tell the world something is wrong with him. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to 1989Fan in "He's the only thing saving Atlanta... Do you know what you could get for that No.4 pick?"   
    So now he is not “Andy Dalton in a dome”?
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to Mescalito in "He's the only thing saving Atlanta... Do you know what you could get for that No.4 pick?"   
    Hasn't Cowherd been trashing Ryan for years?  Am I thinking of someone else?
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from Ergo Proxy in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Very good points and a clear case for why we most likely won't be looking at QB if we keep our pick @ #4. Makes little sense to make the 4th QB selection instead of taking your pick of literally any other position. 
    A point they didn't make is the fact that we will likely offer the opportunity to draft the highest rated player at literally any other position makes our pick highly valuable for teams that are zeroed in on a particular player. For instance a team like the Giants might want to pair their young QB with a top WR and be willing to trade up for the chance to draft Chase or Smith. 
    The trade down is a distinct possibility, but I believe Arthur Smith will fall in love with the possibilities Pitts offers your offense from a versatility/schematic standpoint. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to abcranford2 in SMH Falcons drafting TE at 4th...Really BAD start for new Regime   
    disagree that a great TE isn't worth as much as a wr.  I'd take Travis Kelce over just about any wr.  And the fact that they don't cost as much makes them even more valuable.
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to BLM in SMH Falcons drafting TE at 4th...Really BAD start for new Regime   
    If Falcons draft Kyle Pitts at 4th, this regime is already doomed.  While I am in the camp that would like to see us draft Fields or Lance and ideally Fields, with Ryan's restructure, it just doesn't completely make sense to draft a QB.  So I am open to drafting at another position.
     
    But a TE?  Come on man!
     
    I don't care how good a TE is, a TE is not worth more than a WR.  Just look at player salaries.  The top WRs earn about $10M more than TEs.  There is 0, I mean 0, justification to draft a TE when you can grab someone like Chase, Waddle or Smith.  0 rationale.  A 3rd WR can run routes in the middle and can run any route a TE can.  Just look at the Rams and their 3 WR set.  Or the Packers.  Many good offenses don't have a dominant TE but instead know how to get a 3rd WR involved.   And with Julio Jones imminent retirement, a WR just makes sense.  TEs are like RBs.  Only transcendent players are worth a 1st rounder.  Top talents should only be had in the early second round.
    Additionally, TEs take a while to develop.  I am talking 2 or 3 years.  WRs can make an impact in their first year.  Just look at the TEs drafted in the 1st, and their production in the first few years.  Noah Fant, Evan Engram, OJ Howard, Hayden Hurst, etc... All of these guys have had more hype than production.   Unless Pitts is a transcendent TE, there is absolutely 0 reason to draft him in the first round.  0.  If we restructure Ryan, that means our goal is to win now.  Drafting a TE in the first is NOT a win now move.  It's bad if you commit to Ryan, won't draft a QB, but instead end up drafting a TE, which basically suggests that you are still looking to win 3 years out as opposed to today, but choose a position of MUCH LESS importance.  If we need more weapons on offense, WR is the only choice if the goal is to win now.
    And guess what, Pitts is NOT a transcendent TE.  Do you know why that is?  Well, a TE is a TE because a TE can block.  Pitts cannot block.  Read any scouting report, and it'll say that Pitts has issues in pass protection.  He is just ok at run blocking.
    What this means is that Pitts is a large sized, glorified WR, and not a true TE.  Why draft a large WR, when you can draft an actual WR?  An actual WR will be much better at catching, route running, and gaining separation.  It's one thing if Pitts blocking ability makes up for not having elite route running.  But Pitts doesn't have that blocking ability.
    If Falcons draft Kyle Pitts in the 1st, that along with hiring Chicago Bears OC and QB coaches (Bears have yet to develop a QB or run any sort of creative offense), along with Blank/McKay only planning to hire a coach that was willing to keep Ryan around (despite their misleading public statements), are already laying the groundwork for another average 5 years before we inevitably find another new coaching regime.
     
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from rounz in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Very good points and a clear case for why we most likely won't be looking at QB if we keep our pick @ #4. Makes little sense to make the 4th QB selection instead of taking your pick of literally any other position. 
    A point they didn't make is the fact that we will likely offer the opportunity to draft the highest rated player at literally any other position makes our pick highly valuable for teams that are zeroed in on a particular player. For instance a team like the Giants might want to pair their young QB with a top WR and be willing to trade up for the chance to draft Chase or Smith. 
    The trade down is a distinct possibility, but I believe Arthur Smith will fall in love with the possibilities Pitts offers your offense from a versatility/schematic standpoint. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from JohnnyFranchise in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Very good points and a clear case for why we most likely won't be looking at QB if we keep our pick @ #4. Makes little sense to make the 4th QB selection instead of taking your pick of literally any other position. 
    A point they didn't make is the fact that we will likely offer the opportunity to draft the highest rated player at literally any other position makes our pick highly valuable for teams that are zeroed in on a particular player. For instance a team like the Giants might want to pair their young QB with a top WR and be willing to trade up for the chance to draft Chase or Smith. 
    The trade down is a distinct possibility, but I believe Arthur Smith will fall in love with the possibilities Pitts offers your offense from a versatility/schematic standpoint. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 reacted to PriMeTiiMe in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Says the guy who wants a RB in the 1st round.
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from nomak in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Very good points and a clear case for why we most likely won't be looking at QB if we keep our pick @ #4. Makes little sense to make the 4th QB selection instead of taking your pick of literally any other position. 
    A point they didn't make is the fact that we will likely offer the opportunity to draft the highest rated player at literally any other position makes our pick highly valuable for teams that are zeroed in on a particular player. For instance a team like the Giants might want to pair their young QB with a top WR and be willing to trade up for the chance to draft Chase or Smith. 
    The trade down is a distinct possibility, but I believe Arthur Smith will fall in love with the possibilities Pitts offers your offense from a versatility/schematic standpoint. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from JDaveG in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Very good points and a clear case for why we most likely won't be looking at QB if we keep our pick @ #4. Makes little sense to make the 4th QB selection instead of taking your pick of literally any other position. 
    A point they didn't make is the fact that we will likely offer the opportunity to draft the highest rated player at literally any other position makes our pick highly valuable for teams that are zeroed in on a particular player. For instance a team like the Giants might want to pair their young QB with a top WR and be willing to trade up for the chance to draft Chase or Smith. 
    The trade down is a distinct possibility, but I believe Arthur Smith will fall in love with the possibilities Pitts offers your offense from a versatility/schematic standpoint. 
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    MD-FalconFan13 got a reaction from Wwfalconfan in Nick Wrtight SHOCKED Atlanta Falcons open to trading No. 4 draft pick   
    Very good points and a clear case for why we most likely won't be looking at QB if we keep our pick @ #4. Makes little sense to make the 4th QB selection instead of taking your pick of literally any other position. 
    A point they didn't make is the fact that we will likely offer the opportunity to draft the highest rated player at literally any other position makes our pick highly valuable for teams that are zeroed in on a particular player. For instance a team like the Giants might want to pair their young QB with a top WR and be willing to trade up for the chance to draft Chase or Smith. 
    The trade down is a distinct possibility, but I believe Arthur Smith will fall in love with the possibilities Pitts offers your offense from a versatility/schematic standpoint. 
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