Waterjabbers

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  1. I'm one of those in the third option camp. Clearly looking at the troubles the black community there is more we can do as a nation to help, but I don't like the form of protest. And someone asked earlier where the outrage was when Trump went after McCain, there was a lot of outrage and a lot of conservatives blasted him for it. The image that Trump is popular amoungst republican voters is all hype.
  2. Broadcast a message stating that the NFL is a business and it isn't proper for the President of the United States to speculate on how any business should be run. The National Anthem is not the time or place to voice displeasure at the comments of an arogant blowhard. I'm not a fan of Trump, I didn't vote for him, and I don't like how he uses his base or his twitter account, but the National Anthem isn't about who the president is or what the president has said.
  3. My Father, Grandfather, Great Uncle, and Uncle all served this country. Standing for the National Anthem is a sign of respect for all of the sacrifices that have been made to safe guard the freedoms this country has given us. We may not have been a perfect nation and we may not be a perfect nation, but we would not be a nation without those sacrifices. Everyone has the right to stand or kneel during the national anthem, but by kneeling they are saying that what they are protesting is more important to them than the sacrifices that have been made to protect the nation that has given them the right to kneel in protest. So long as that is the case I won't watch or attend another game, nor will I purchase another NFL product, and I certainly won't lock arms. If Dan Quinn and the Atlanta Falcona were interested in unity choosing to disrespect my families service last week to protest Donald Trump's tweets was a mistake.
  4. For what its worth, when I propose solutions that will alleviate some of the issues they are shot down. I think the biggest problems in the school system have to do with bureaucracy at the top syphoning money away from schools themselves and a deviation from classical education to put more focus on post modern education philosophies. If the state governments were forced to audit their education systems they would find they have too many adiminstrators and that is where the biggest waste is. That money could be funding school supplies, repairs, construction, and renovation. I think the minimum wage is driving the lower middle class back into the poorer class by raising prices on everyday goods that people have to buy. I also think the push towards college education combined with government backed studebt loans is driving the price of college up and saddling young adults with debt that is difficult to pay back. I'm not religious, but I think marriage has been stigmatized to the point that its undermining young adults. Marriage is one of the best ways to aquire wealth, and married couples finacially do better than single adults and a lot of people simply aren't getting married. I also think that the sex poaitive movement has gone too far and too many children are being born without fathers. All of my views on those issues are in large part because I grew up in a primarily black neighborhood, went to primarily black schools, and I saw the effects all of them had on my classmates. I also think the way black history is taught is extemely divisive. The context it's taught with is wrong. The ancestors of a majority of white people in Ameriva today were immigrants that didn't own slaves. Only five percent of white Americans are the decendants of slave owners, but that delineation is never made. So when the subject comes up its assumed if you are white, your family owned slaves. After years of saying all of these things, and citing them in some cases, I stopped because the impression I got was that my opinions weren't wanted. I've been called a racist. I've been told I was ignoring the issue. I've been told I was white so I should just shut up. After awhile I just settled on the idea that people weren't interested in fixing the problem. They just liked to point the problem out to feel good about themselves.
  5. What she did wasn't a "no-no". What she did was criminal, and if you were handling classified material of any kind at your job you would go to prison for doing it. Neither of these candidates was fit for office. A lot of people held their noses at the balot box on both sides of the aisle last year.
  6. Here's why it isn't worth it and the problem with politics today in a nutshell. You want something done to end police violence in minority communities, so you see any form of protest against it as a good thing. I believe that there are larger issues in minority communities that lead more instances of police violence and would like to fix those issues. So you and I can probably agree that the number of people in prison is far too high, we can probably agree that school systems are failing kids in general and especially in the inner cities, and we can probably agree that police are far too aggressive when it comes to performing their jobs. I say "probably" because we haven't had a conversation about it before, so maybe we don't agree on those three points. I don't know, but I don't want it to come across that I doubt any of those are true. Where you and I disagree is over kneeling for the national anthem. I grew up in a military household and see it as disrespectful to my father, great uncle, and grandfather. So if I were a person that wasn't aware of this issue before Kaepernick started his protest, the conversation you wanted to have isn't the conversation we are having. You want to talk about police violence and I want to talk about the disrespect being showed to my family's sacrifice to this country. Now we are talking past each other, and worse yet people are tuning out each week. So less and less of the people you want to have a conversation with, whether they could be allies at the table or not, are going to come to the tabke to discuss it. The message a lot of people recieved yesterday was "we care about respecting you or your family's sacrifices" not "there is a problem we need your help in solving". Btw, neither me, nor my father supported Trump. Neither of us voted for him, and neither of us liked the way he uses the bully pulpit to offer up criticism of businesses. As as a former serviceman and the son of two parents that served in World War 2 my father can't stand Donald Trump. As the son of a serviceman and someone who watchedmy grandfather struggle to do basic things like get out of a bed or sit down to eat dinner because of shrapnel damage from a grenade while freeing Italy from the Nazis I can't stand Donald Trump. But neither of us will watch another NFL game for those reasons either. My great uncle, who I also had the privilage to know, served in the army at the age of 17, was lucky to survive the beaches of Normandy, freed jewish prisoners from concentration camps and returned home in his early twenties. That's why it isn't worth it, because you are spitting on the sacrifices other people have made and alienating people that you want to come to the table. If you can't respect those sacrifices, why should I respect your cause and listen to what you have to say?
  7. As far as I was concerned the game ended when Alford picked off Stafford. There was no penalty on that play and the refs shouldn't have thrown the flag. Past that I didn't care what happened.
  8. Of course it's about what I want. It's my money and free time being spent and after today I'm not. Eventually enough people will tune out and the NFL will lose enough money over it that they will either get the message or go under.
  9. I don't want to hear the players views on abortion, racist statues, or God either. I don't care when they pray before or after the game and don't like when they cover it on TV. I watch football to watch football. The first amendment limits the power of the federal government, not the NFL and I'm sure its not mandatory for players to stand for the national anthem nor is it mandatory for them to play the national anthem.
  10. This isn't a first amendment issue. NFL players kneeling during the anthem is a contracted employee making a political statement at work. The players represent the NFL when they put their jerseys on to go play, so by not repremanding them, the NFL has endorsed their message. Fans who disagree with their "protest" or with their message are correct in being angry at the NFL for endorsing them. If you don't want to politicize sports then don't bring your political views on the court, pitch, ice, or field. I'm a conservative, but I don't care if players kneel for the anthem. If football becomes too political I'll just stop watching. I'm not going to invest time and money into a hobby that wants to preach to me. I don't have to watch football.
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  12. Normally I don't either, but I have a tick about repetition. I don't like repeating myself and I don't like listening to repetitive people or sounds.
  13. Thats still better than hearing an announcer complain about the officials in between excitedly talking about last years Superbowl all game long.
  14. I'm buying a radio to listen to the local broadcast because of Colinsworth. Dude owes me money...