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  1. I know this topic might be 10 months behind , but I was just thinking....

    He hired(or rather approved of) Mora..unproven head coach, with a spotty track record as d coach

    Approved of a mostly college coach, with very limited NFL experience, who obviously was not vetted properly, in Petrino

    Approved of Smith, an unproven head coach, with a somewhat spotty track record as a d coach

    Approved of Dan Quinn, unproven head coach, with a good track record,

    I find it interesting that a man that made a billion dollar empire with hiring the right people around him, hiring the best people...has always went with unproven commodities.

    A connection or just individual cases

  2. What you are describing is apathy or indifference, a dangerous attitude and emotion from fans about their team.

    Anger is preferred over apathy as with anger at least one cares enough to be mad. Apathy is not good and this is what the Falcons are deservedly facing when allowing a QB to get a first down as Winston did last week while our players were jogging and when Ryan is throwing listless passes into the waiting arms of defenders.

    Apathy or indifference is when a fan is unsure, desirous or thinking of something better to do this Sunday at 1:00 pm and this is where I am after that Winston run. Wholly inexcusable and a poor reflection on the coaches.


    I shrugged my shoulders after the Winston run, and then started to vacuum the house after the Ryan INT, and started thinking,....I could have got my chores done a lot sooner if I hadn't wasted time watching the game

    And I've been a fan since 1981

  3. Let's sum this up

    clayborn, 1 year deal, underperformed

    Hankerson, 1 year deal, injured, underperformed

    Durant, injury prone, underperformed

    Reed, way underperformed, since he got the most money

    Schofield, I actually like him, but he is only a backup at best

    Adams, lost out of rotation, not active for games

    Tamme, decent hands, horrible at run blocking, but still a good pickup

    Chester, functional, but will be 33 next year, time for another guard

    Person, underperformed, not the long term answer

    Our best signings have been Phillip wheeler...in season and

    Nick Williams

    That's awful

    Am I forgetting anyone?

  4. Quinn has done an amazing job with the defense. If he continues to draft the right guys to his scheme, he will have a top 5 D in no time. We just need a new offensive coordinator.

    Agree, but who and what, it would be Ryan's 3rd offense in 3 years, roddy will be done, Hankerson is not coming back, Tamme in his 30s, no offensive line and all the line except for Matthews are bad fits for any other line except the ZBS

    Don't know

  5. The 5-0 start changed everything, but really.....

    -we have a patchwork OL, that was put together right before the season

    -we have 1 legitimate starter on the O line

    -we were hoping for a rookie DE to be our pass rush

    -we have mixed up parts, Tyson Jackson is not a starter, worrilow on this type of D is not a starter,

    -we were installing an offense with really no 2nd WR,

    -complete failure of 2012 draft

    -money tied up to,players not even playing, Asamoah,

    Hate to say it, but we are starting over, next year will be a better assessment as we get further away from mike smith players, problem is, we have way to many holes.....MLB and OLB, SS, pass rush, TE, OL, 2nd WR, return guy, and ughhh QB? Still too much to fix with another off season

  6. To illustrate my point, who caught Montana's most famous pass -- "the catch?"

    I'll give you the bootleg, on that one, miraculous catch

    1st read on the play, WR

    2nd read on that play, RB,

    3rd read on that play, TE

    That's what I said about the WCO

    Seriously, walshs WCO offense relied on a lot on 2wr, 1 TE, 1 fb(remember Tom Rathman) and 1 RB, the CATCH was exactly that lineup. shanahan relies more on 3 WR sets, which is worse if you think about, regarding the reliance on Jones, just like he did with Andre johnson and Pierre Garçon

  7. It is the scheme!!, let's agree on somethings first

    -Ryan is not an elite QB, he's an over average QB and one that can win a SB, like Flacco and Eli, elite QBs could play in any system and do well, Ryan is not and needs support...

    -Ryan is a rhythm, timing passer,

    Remember his first NFL pass...steps 1, 2, 3 ,4 , 5 back foot hits the ground and throw

    -his best asset is his brain and yes he needs a nice pocket to really excel, he is not that great at improvising

    shanahans system requires him to turn his back to the D, requires boot legs, play action movement, and doesn't allow him to have total control at the line with plays, requires him to be lighter.. which equals less strength

    In shanahans system you lock in on one read(Julio), then dump to the TE or RB

    Koetters had multiple options, multiple route trees and flexibility at the line, imagine if we had the zone blocking running(freeman) but Koetters passing, I think Ryan would be ok

    So what's off with Ryan, his timing, accuracy, and arm strength

    A 30 year old year QB with multiple pro bowls doesn't just regress in year 8, without something major changing....system or injury, someone give me an example otherwise

    It's the system

  8. DF was hurt all pre-season. Before the pre-season they called him as the starter. They never intended to roll with TeCo until DF missed pre-season, then they had no choice.

    They wasted 0 time in making DF the starter once he blew up like he did.

    In fact I think our RB situation is the only one that Shanahan has handled well. I don't like Shanny at all.

    Makes me wonder what we could do if we had a quality OL
  9. For example, devonta and Coleman both went through training camp equally both played preseason banged up, maybe Devonta had less reps...

    But to come out and declare Coleman the starter for the season....seems like(currently) there is a pretty big gap in talent between the 2, in all aspects of the game, running, pass catching, blocking and ball safety.... How can coaches see different? And it's not like salary comes into play with those 2

  10. -do you really think Ryan will be allowed to run the offense more

    -no huddle

    -more blitzes

    -lineup changes, starting Grady, starting Long, etc

    -adding completely different plays for the offense

    -having Trufant cover the other teams top WR

    Coaches are creatures of habit, they have their system beliefs that they hold tight and even though Quinn talks a good game, new, innovative, etc

    I can only think of one coach who makes changes, roster, plays, schemes, etc and that's Belichick on a week to week basis

    I don't see anything changing, maybe a little because we get hankerson, Moore, Alford and Hester back, but nothing more

  11. Agree, in the past..Ryan would have noticed it, changed the play and found another pass or run option, and picked apart the defense

    He has to have brought that up privately to Shan and Quinn right?

    Ne thing I remember about Kettering was that he asked Ryan what he liked to do...and then he implemented some of those things into the offense, Ryan doesn't seem comfortable doing anything in this o ..except the last 2 minutes hurry up

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