Falcons In 2012

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  1. dmite liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Matt Ryan #69 on NFL top 100 players   
    Drew Brees went 7-9 for three straight years yet never left the top 15
  2. JDaveG liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Ultimate X’s and O’x thread   
    Yep.  You can tell because those two are outliers when you look at personal groupings.  They use twice as much 13 & 21 personell as anyone else.
    Their positionless offense is how they scored 28 points in the 2nd half against us.  Their RB’s out of the slot or out wide had no counter by Quinn.  I forget how many catches white had in the Super Bowl, but he should’ve been the MVP
  3. JDaveG liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Ultimate X’s and O’x thread   
    Yep.  You can tell because those two are outliers when you look at personal groupings.  They use twice as much 13 & 21 personell as anyone else.
    Their positionless offense is how they scored 28 points in the 2nd half against us.  Their RB’s out of the slot or out wide had no counter by Quinn.  I forget how many catches white had in the Super Bowl, but he should’ve been the MVP
  4. vitaman liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
    It’s certainly too early.  Thus the title of the thread, Mr. Hindsight.
    But barring injury, Burns looks like the real deal.  And I love they use him on special teams.  Two blocked punts already.  Dude’s jump is scary good
  5. vitaman liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
    I know, hindsight makes geniuses of us all.  I wasn’t on the Burns train, but many were.  Would have made too much sense to let Vic walk, draft Burns and use Vic’s money on Jamie Collins and a quality starting RT or RG.
     
    CHARLOTTE -- On Wednesday, Panthers edge rusher Brian Burns was named the Pro Football Focus Defensive Rookie of the Month for September.
    On Thursday, an honor from the NFL rolled in. Burns was named NFC Defensive Rookie of the Month.
    Carolina's first-round draft pick out of Florida State, Burns has tallied 11 tackles and his official NFL stat line shows 2.5 sacks and nine QB pressures, the most among first-year players. He also has blocked two punts.
    PFF gave Burns a grade of 78.4 through four weeks, first among the 33 rookies with at least 100 defensive snaps. He ranks second among qualifying first-year players in pass-rush win percentage (17.8%), pass-rush grade (72.4) and pressure percentage (15.8%) according to the PFF statistical models.
  6. Borat liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in The Ultimate Matt Ryan argument Thread. Winner takes all!   
    11 Years - 178 Games
    58% W/L record
    48,000 yards
    303 TD’s
    138 INT’s
    66% Completion Rate
    #2 All Tine Playoff QBR
    Only QB to thrive in all 3 offensive philosophies
    Defense supporting him averages bottom 25% for his career
     
    * Robbed of SB Championship & SB MVP by his coaches
     
    Mike Vick: 
    11 years - 143 Games
    48% Win/Loss Record
    23,000 Yards
    123 TD’s
    88 INT’s
    56% Completion
  7. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   
    He looks/sounds dejected and defeated.  Honestly.  It’s the first time I’ve seen this from him. Are they passing out Quaalude’s at practice?
    Something is wrong in the locker room
  8. Ergo Proxy liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in The Ultimate Matt Ryan argument Thread. Winner takes all!   
    Wilson isn’t the rhythm and timing QB that Ryan is.  He would have been very good in 2016 for us, but not Ryan good IMO
  9. Kaptain Krazy liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
    We have 80 million invested in our OL & DL in 2020.  And they still need to be fixed?  
     
    Meanwhile the Patriots about to win another title with their OL/DL spending being half of ours and bottom 6 in the NFL.   Time to coach up the talent on the team
     
  10. Knight of God liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
     Vic isn’t the problem...he has outplayed Takk in 3 of 4 games.  But the 13 million could have been used elsewhere.
  11. Ergo Proxy liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in The Ultimate Matt Ryan argument Thread. Winner takes all!   
    Wilson isn’t the rhythm and timing QB that Ryan is.  He would have been very good in 2016 for us, but not Ryan good IMO
  12. Ergo Proxy liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in The Ultimate Matt Ryan argument Thread. Winner takes all!   
    LOL....that was a good one.  You and @Vandy teamed up on me.  
     
    I think the real heated debate was centered around whether or not Wilson took too many unnecessary sacks. 
  13. PokerSteve liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Maybe this is what is wrong   
    If Quinn survives to next year, I hope he stops fearing injuries in preseason.  Be the only team to play your starters the first 2.5 quarters every preseason game.  Blow out the other teams second unit with your first unit.  Set a mindset of dominance.  This team lacks confidence.  
     
    But I get tired of teams simply trying to avoid injuries in the preseason. Get your team prepared. If you lose a player to injury, so be it
  14. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   
    Honesty, he was dragging the other captains out for the coin toss.  They looked uninterested then and it showed in the game.  Rico will leave everything on the field every single play.  If the other 10 guys on both sides of the ball had similar passion, this team would be tough to deal with
  15. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   
    He looks/sounds dejected and defeated.  Honestly.  It’s the first time I’ve seen this from him. Are they passing out Quaalude’s at practice?
    Something is wrong in the locker room
  16. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   
    Honesty, he was dragging the other captains out for the coin toss.  They looked uninterested then and it showed in the game.  Rico will leave everything on the field every single play.  If the other 10 guys on both sides of the ball had similar passion, this team would be tough to deal with
  17. ChickenBiscuit liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Oh The Irony: Brian “Dead” Poole   
    I’m guilty of often referencing PFF.  I like their raw data.  But this from Belichick tells you to take it all with a grain of salt.  “Don’t bother grading a player unless you have his playbook, and even then it’s not enough in case the play changed”  
     
    “The New England Patriots head coach got going on grading players and didn’t stop for nearly 30 minutes. Belichick initially talked about the difficulty of grading certain plays without first talking to the players involved. Belichick noted his own team runs into this issue when watching opposing teams.
    “You see a play on film and a receiver goes uncovered down the field, so you know it is one or two guys’ mistake, but you don’t necessarily know which guy it is, right?” Belichick said on WEEI. “And so, a lot of times you see announcers say, ‘Well Fauria should have taken him, or Belichick should have taken him’ and I am looking at the play saying, ‘Well, it could have been either guy, it just depends on what the call was and what they were doing.’ A lot of times we look at our plays and we see a mistake there and maybe we come off the field and a guy makes a tackle in the backfield and we’re like, ‘Oh my God, this guy made a mistake.’ And he tells us, ‘Well no, at the line we called something else,’ so it wasn’t him, and it actually was another guy.
    “A lot of times on film we see that. We see a mistake and have to go back to see what the call was. We know somebody is wrong here, but it just depends on what the call was as to which guy is right and which guy is wrong. A lot of times we don’t know what happened until Monday. We know there’s a problem on the play, but until you actually talk to the players and say, ‘OK, what happened on this play — oh, I thought he said this, I didn’t hear it, or he said this, but I played that, whatever it is.’ You’re right, in terms of analytics you get a lot of this guy should have had him, that guy should have had him, but I know from our team there are times where we don’t know what went wrong until you really can sort the play out. There’s no way somebody else could know is the point. Sometimes what it looks like is not what it is.
    “And then you often see players, defensive backs, somebody gets behind the defense for a touchdown and they pull off or don’t chase because they don’t want it to look like it was their guy, that type of thing. There are plays like that where they kind of definitely skew it, and a lot of times they are big plays. It is an interesting question and an interesting point when it comes to who is at fault, who does what and it actually is pretty frequent that that comes up.”
    Belichick also stressed the need to have a sliding scale. Because the opposing team can pick up chunks of yards when everyone is technically executing their assignment.
    “Sometimes you can run into conflict as a coach where you look at the play and — all right, let’s say defensively the end sort of does his job, the tackle sort of does his job, the linebacker sort of does his job, the other linebacker sort of does his job and they gain 6 yards,” Belichick said. “And you’re like, ‘Wait a minute.’ Like, everybody’s kind of doing what they’re supposed to do. There’s nobody here that’s really bad. But they just gained 6 yards. They can’t gain 6 yards and everybody does their job.
    “So, then there has to be a higher standard of what’s a high grade or what’s an acceptable grade or what isn’t. And that’s a fine line. It really is. Because players can go out there and do their job and then they can do a great job of it. They can do a solid job. Or it can be, well, it’s not perfect but it’s kind of OK. And then there’s the obvious one that’s just you get beat. We all get beat. I’d say there’s a gradation in there between A, B and C let’s call it. So, maybe C’s a passing grade, but are you really going to win playing C football? B’s good. It might be good enough sometimes. A, it’s hard to get straight A’s out there. They’ve got some A players too. The grading part of it is a fine line. It really is.”
      Belichick also acknowledged that some players are judged on a much smaller sample size than others. The overall grade of a wide receiver or cornerback can be swayed by one big play.
    “Well, look, if you’re a corner, you might only be involved in five plays a game,” Belichick said. “It’s not like you’re playing nose tackle. Sometimes there are no opportunities. There’s some players who are involved in a lot of plays — middle linebacker or a center guard. Every single play goes through them. Then there are other players, you have defensive ends — if the ball runs one way, the other guy’s — unless they run a reverse — the other guy’s really not that involved in it. He has a responsibility to do.
    “Like, how do you get a minus as a receiver? You drop the ball. That’s about it. Otherwise, if you run your 10-yard route or your 15-yard route or whatever it is, then, well, you’ve kind of done your assignment. If you drop the ball, then obviously that’s a minus.
    “I’m just saying there’s a difference between — and so, really a lot of those plays, let’s call them zeroes. They’re really not grade-able plays. You want the plays — what’s the grade on the plays where the player’s actually involved in the play. So, for corners and wide receivers, their opportunities are a lot less than interior linemen, linebackers, quarterback — a running play, unless he misses the handoff or something there’s not really — he can screw the play up. I’m not saying that. But generally speaking, that play now belongs to the runner. If it’s a passing play, then that play belongs to the quarterback.”
  18. Godzilla1985 liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   

     
    Play better on Sundays to create a new narrative so the questions will be different.  He  is definitely not on pace for the 3000 yards he talked about
  19. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   
    He looks/sounds dejected and defeated.  Honestly.  It’s the first time I’ve seen this from him. Are they passing out Quaalude’s at practice?
    Something is wrong in the locker room
  20. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   
    Honesty, he was dragging the other captains out for the coin toss.  They looked uninterested then and it showed in the game.  Rico will leave everything on the field every single play.  If the other 10 guys on both sides of the ball had similar passion, this team would be tough to deal with
  21. poutlipper liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in The Ultimate Matt Ryan argument Thread. Winner takes all!   
    From 2008-2018 Matt Ryan has thrown for more yards than Falcons QB’s did from  1990-2007
  22. Godzilla1985 liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Falcons news and tweets   

     
    Play better on Sundays to create a new narrative so the questions will be different.  He  is definitely not on pace for the 3000 yards he talked about
  23. Knight of God liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
     Vic isn’t the problem...he has outplayed Takk in 3 of 4 games.  But the 13 million could have been used elsewhere.
  24. Kaptain Krazy liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
    We have 80 million invested in our OL & DL in 2020.  And they still need to be fixed?  
     
    Meanwhile the Patriots about to win another title with their OL/DL spending being half of ours and bottom 6 in the NFL.   Time to coach up the talent on the team
     
  25. Vandy liked a post in a topic by Falcons In 2012 in Mr. Hindsight   
    @Vandy was the bear.  I was saying you woke him… LOL