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  1. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by Ovie_Lover in Pats still trolling Falcons   
    That was a crucial play in their comeback.
  2. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by vel in Do you think Takk can notch 10 sacks in 2020? Chuck Smith does   
    Clayborn learned his cross chop from Chuck. Grady works with him. Bud Dupree just had a career year after working with him. Grady works with him. Aaron Donald works with him. Montez Sweat worked with him. Larry Ogunjobi worked with him. That's just this past offseason. Work. They all put it in. Let's not act like Chuck is some bum and top tier players don't go to him. Routinely. 
  3. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by ya_boi_j in Dante Fowler Anyone ??   
    They were together at Florida and he wanted to be drafted by the Falcons mostly because of the connection. He’s definitely gonna break bread
  4. Schwarzwald liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Belichick didn’t want TD to trade up for Julio   
    It’s a good deal of qb’s that can make that throw, tho it was impressive, but only about 3 wr’s that can make that catch. AB couldn’t make that catch because he’s too short. Matt only attempted the throw because of Julio. Nobody else on the team was making that catch. 
  5. kiwifalcon liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    I’ve always harped on the coaching thing and the forever changing of coordinators every 2 years. It makes a difference in how the players perform. How else is it possible for a 1-15 team to make the playoffs the very next season with a new coach coaching the same talent that was 1-15? It matters. Players have to buy in to what the coach is selling and and when they don’t you get disarray. From the HC on down to the assistants. 
     
    I’ve told the board numerous times about what Asante told me about nfl coaches. He said they DONT TEACH. But the ones that DO teach like the BB’s, the Carols, the lombardis, the Walsh’s, and the Quinn’s get more out of players. Morris is a great communicator and teacher as well. He’s hands on with how he wants it done. Mallory I’m SURE was not. And I’m also SURE the house didn’t respond to him or buy in to his approach. That’s why they looked so lethargic early on. It was pretty much Ladi Da out there. When morris took over we saw LIFE on the back end. Why is that? It’s OBVIOUSLY a difference in the coaching style and the players LIKE that coach. You’d be surprised how many of my nfl friends have told me if they don’t like a particular coach they don’t play hard for him. When they do they’ll run thru a brick wall for him. 
     
    The team loves  quinn. They’ll run thru a wall for him. The secondary loves Morris on top of quinn and they ran thru a wall for him as well. Pitt’s defense always balled out for lebeau. When he left they fell off a bit. Coaching matters. Certain coaches can get the extreme most out of players. The bucs played hard for Morris. Especially the defense. If they had a qb like Matt during his HC stint they would’ve stayed in the playoffs. Morris lit a fire under tru’s @ss and the rest of the secondary.
     
    Also another thing nobody talks about or likes to mention is race plays a part as well. Asante, Dwayne Bowe, and both my cousins Jeremy Mincey and Justin houston have told me how some of the white coaches treat or talk to black players. You’ll NEVER hear this outside of me saying this here or if you know some black nfl players. That’ll also make a difference in how players respond to the coach. I would tell you some of the things they’ve been told by coaches but just take my word for it. 
  6. kiwifalcon liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    I’ve always harped on the coaching thing and the forever changing of coordinators every 2 years. It makes a difference in how the players perform. How else is it possible for a 1-15 team to make the playoffs the very next season with a new coach coaching the same talent that was 1-15? It matters. Players have to buy in to what the coach is selling and and when they don’t you get disarray. From the HC on down to the assistants. 
     
    I’ve told the board numerous times about what Asante told me about nfl coaches. He said they DONT TEACH. But the ones that DO teach like the BB’s, the Carols, the lombardis, the Walsh’s, and the Quinn’s get more out of players. Morris is a great communicator and teacher as well. He’s hands on with how he wants it done. Mallory I’m SURE was not. And I’m also SURE the house didn’t respond to him or buy in to his approach. That’s why they looked so lethargic early on. It was pretty much Ladi Da out there. When morris took over we saw LIFE on the back end. Why is that? It’s OBVIOUSLY a difference in the coaching style and the players LIKE that coach. You’d be surprised how many of my nfl friends have told me if they don’t like a particular coach they don’t play hard for him. When they do they’ll run thru a brick wall for him. 
     
    The team loves  quinn. They’ll run thru a wall for him. The secondary loves Morris on top of quinn and they ran thru a wall for him as well. Pitt’s defense always balled out for lebeau. When he left they fell off a bit. Coaching matters. Certain coaches can get the extreme most out of players. The bucs played hard for Morris. Especially the defense. If they had a qb like Matt during his HC stint they would’ve stayed in the playoffs. Morris lit a fire under tru’s @ss and the rest of the secondary.
     
    Also another thing nobody talks about or likes to mention is race plays a part as well. Asante, Dwayne Bowe, and both my cousins Jeremy Mincey and Justin houston have told me how some of the white coaches treat or talk to black players. You’ll NEVER hear this outside of me saying this here or if you know some black nfl players. That’ll also make a difference in how players respond to the coach. I would tell you some of the things they’ve been told by coaches but just take my word for it. 
  7. Vandy liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Agree to disagree. I saw him jamming in the second half of the season. Especially on 3rd Downs, where they went down to only 28% conversion rate. Now I do agree some of it is him wanting to play off. That’s his choice.
     
    Asante chose to play off as well. It was his choice. He told me this personally. And who tutored tru and alf as rookies? Asante. I’ve told you guys Asante wanted another year with his pups because he felt they leave too many pick opportunities on the field. So it’s not about fear of getting beat. It’s just easier to watch the qb playing off in zone.
     
    That’s another thing. It’s cover 3 zone so he’s already gonna play 5-7 yards off the line. When Morris took over we played cover 1 on 3rd Downs hence where you saw more in your face jamming from tru and ALL the corners because now they’re only 1-3 yards off the line. Again, it’s scheme to me. If you call cover 3 as the coverage, which UTILIZES bail technique AUTOMATICALLY they line up 5-7 yards off the line. It’s their CHOICE to be 5 or 7 yards.
     
    There are some cover 3 press where it’s zone but they give a man look and press at the line but we rarely use cover 3 press. When we press we’re indeed in cover 1. And you eluded to the reason we got beat so much in cover 3 earlier in the year, is because quinn was abc...123 about it. Which is why I said scheme. Morris changed things and by communication I’m sure he TOLD tru to get in somebody’s face and put a hand on him. Which is why I definitely saw him do just that in the second half of the season.
     
    THAT is Morris coaching over the other guy that was coaching the secondary first half of the season. So I agree with you in some aspects where quinn was loosie goosie with soft cover 3. Of course the fans are gonna put it 100% on the players. Especially tru being the #1 guy. But trust me even vets need a coach that talks that right sh*t to them to get them playing to their potential. 
  8. Vandy liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Agree to disagree. I saw him jamming in the second half of the season. Especially on 3rd Downs, where they went down to only 28% conversion rate. Now I do agree some of it is him wanting to play off. That’s his choice.
     
    Asante chose to play off as well. It was his choice. He told me this personally. And who tutored tru and alf as rookies? Asante. I’ve told you guys Asante wanted another year with his pups because he felt they leave too many pick opportunities on the field. So it’s not about fear of getting beat. It’s just easier to watch the qb playing off in zone.
     
    That’s another thing. It’s cover 3 zone so he’s already gonna play 5-7 yards off the line. When Morris took over we played cover 1 on 3rd Downs hence where you saw more in your face jamming from tru and ALL the corners because now they’re only 1-3 yards off the line. Again, it’s scheme to me. If you call cover 3 as the coverage, which UTILIZES bail technique AUTOMATICALLY they line up 5-7 yards off the line. It’s their CHOICE to be 5 or 7 yards.
     
    There are some cover 3 press where it’s zone but they give a man look and press at the line but we rarely use cover 3 press. When we press we’re indeed in cover 1. And you eluded to the reason we got beat so much in cover 3 earlier in the year, is because quinn was abc...123 about it. Which is why I said scheme. Morris changed things and by communication I’m sure he TOLD tru to get in somebody’s face and put a hand on him. Which is why I definitely saw him do just that in the second half of the season.
     
    THAT is Morris coaching over the other guy that was coaching the secondary first half of the season. So I agree with you in some aspects where quinn was loosie goosie with soft cover 3. Of course the fans are gonna put it 100% on the players. Especially tru being the #1 guy. But trust me even vets need a coach that talks that right sh*t to them to get them playing to their potential. 
  9. kiwifalcon liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    I’ve always harped on the coaching thing and the forever changing of coordinators every 2 years. It makes a difference in how the players perform. How else is it possible for a 1-15 team to make the playoffs the very next season with a new coach coaching the same talent that was 1-15? It matters. Players have to buy in to what the coach is selling and and when they don’t you get disarray. From the HC on down to the assistants. 
     
    I’ve told the board numerous times about what Asante told me about nfl coaches. He said they DONT TEACH. But the ones that DO teach like the BB’s, the Carols, the lombardis, the Walsh’s, and the Quinn’s get more out of players. Morris is a great communicator and teacher as well. He’s hands on with how he wants it done. Mallory I’m SURE was not. And I’m also SURE the house didn’t respond to him or buy in to his approach. That’s why they looked so lethargic early on. It was pretty much Ladi Da out there. When morris took over we saw LIFE on the back end. Why is that? It’s OBVIOUSLY a difference in the coaching style and the players LIKE that coach. You’d be surprised how many of my nfl friends have told me if they don’t like a particular coach they don’t play hard for him. When they do they’ll run thru a brick wall for him. 
     
    The team loves  quinn. They’ll run thru a wall for him. The secondary loves Morris on top of quinn and they ran thru a wall for him as well. Pitt’s defense always balled out for lebeau. When he left they fell off a bit. Coaching matters. Certain coaches can get the extreme most out of players. The bucs played hard for Morris. Especially the defense. If they had a qb like Matt during his HC stint they would’ve stayed in the playoffs. Morris lit a fire under tru’s @ss and the rest of the secondary.
     
    Also another thing nobody talks about or likes to mention is race plays a part as well. Asante, Dwayne Bowe, and both my cousins Jeremy Mincey and Justin houston have told me how some of the white coaches treat or talk to black players. You’ll NEVER hear this outside of me saying this here or if you know some black nfl players. That’ll also make a difference in how players respond to the coach. I would tell you some of the things they’ve been told by coaches but just take my word for it. 
  10. Vandy liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Agree to disagree. I saw him jamming in the second half of the season. Especially on 3rd Downs, where they went down to only 28% conversion rate. Now I do agree some of it is him wanting to play off. That’s his choice.
     
    Asante chose to play off as well. It was his choice. He told me this personally. And who tutored tru and alf as rookies? Asante. I’ve told you guys Asante wanted another year with his pups because he felt they leave too many pick opportunities on the field. So it’s not about fear of getting beat. It’s just easier to watch the qb playing off in zone.
     
    That’s another thing. It’s cover 3 zone so he’s already gonna play 5-7 yards off the line. When Morris took over we played cover 1 on 3rd Downs hence where you saw more in your face jamming from tru and ALL the corners because now they’re only 1-3 yards off the line. Again, it’s scheme to me. If you call cover 3 as the coverage, which UTILIZES bail technique AUTOMATICALLY they line up 5-7 yards off the line. It’s their CHOICE to be 5 or 7 yards.
     
    There are some cover 3 press where it’s zone but they give a man look and press at the line but we rarely use cover 3 press. When we press we’re indeed in cover 1. And you eluded to the reason we got beat so much in cover 3 earlier in the year, is because quinn was abc...123 about it. Which is why I said scheme. Morris changed things and by communication I’m sure he TOLD tru to get in somebody’s face and put a hand on him. Which is why I definitely saw him do just that in the second half of the season.
     
    THAT is Morris coaching over the other guy that was coaching the secondary first half of the season. So I agree with you in some aspects where quinn was loosie goosie with soft cover 3. Of course the fans are gonna put it 100% on the players. Especially tru being the #1 guy. But trust me even vets need a coach that talks that right sh*t to them to get them playing to their potential. 
  11. Vandy liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Agree to disagree. I saw him jamming in the second half of the season. Especially on 3rd Downs, where they went down to only 28% conversion rate. Now I do agree some of it is him wanting to play off. That’s his choice.
     
    Asante chose to play off as well. It was his choice. He told me this personally. And who tutored tru and alf as rookies? Asante. I’ve told you guys Asante wanted another year with his pups because he felt they leave too many pick opportunities on the field. So it’s not about fear of getting beat. It’s just easier to watch the qb playing off in zone.
     
    That’s another thing. It’s cover 3 zone so he’s already gonna play 5-7 yards off the line. When Morris took over we played cover 1 on 3rd Downs hence where you saw more in your face jamming from tru and ALL the corners because now they’re only 1-3 yards off the line. Again, it’s scheme to me. If you call cover 3 as the coverage, which UTILIZES bail technique AUTOMATICALLY they line up 5-7 yards off the line. It’s their CHOICE to be 5 or 7 yards.
     
    There are some cover 3 press where it’s zone but they give a man look and press at the line but we rarely use cover 3 press. When we press we’re indeed in cover 1. And you eluded to the reason we got beat so much in cover 3 earlier in the year, is because quinn was abc...123 about it. Which is why I said scheme. Morris changed things and by communication I’m sure he TOLD tru to get in somebody’s face and put a hand on him. Which is why I definitely saw him do just that in the second half of the season.
     
    THAT is Morris coaching over the other guy that was coaching the secondary first half of the season. So I agree with you in some aspects where quinn was loosie goosie with soft cover 3. Of course the fans are gonna put it 100% on the players. Especially tru being the #1 guy. But trust me even vets need a coach that talks that right sh*t to them to get them playing to their potential. 
  12. kiwifalcon liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    I’ve always harped on the coaching thing and the forever changing of coordinators every 2 years. It makes a difference in how the players perform. How else is it possible for a 1-15 team to make the playoffs the very next season with a new coach coaching the same talent that was 1-15? It matters. Players have to buy in to what the coach is selling and and when they don’t you get disarray. From the HC on down to the assistants. 
     
    I’ve told the board numerous times about what Asante told me about nfl coaches. He said they DONT TEACH. But the ones that DO teach like the BB’s, the Carols, the lombardis, the Walsh’s, and the Quinn’s get more out of players. Morris is a great communicator and teacher as well. He’s hands on with how he wants it done. Mallory I’m SURE was not. And I’m also SURE the house didn’t respond to him or buy in to his approach. That’s why they looked so lethargic early on. It was pretty much Ladi Da out there. When morris took over we saw LIFE on the back end. Why is that? It’s OBVIOUSLY a difference in the coaching style and the players LIKE that coach. You’d be surprised how many of my nfl friends have told me if they don’t like a particular coach they don’t play hard for him. When they do they’ll run thru a brick wall for him. 
     
    The team loves  quinn. They’ll run thru a wall for him. The secondary loves Morris on top of quinn and they ran thru a wall for him as well. Pitt’s defense always balled out for lebeau. When he left they fell off a bit. Coaching matters. Certain coaches can get the extreme most out of players. The bucs played hard for Morris. Especially the defense. If they had a qb like Matt during his HC stint they would’ve stayed in the playoffs. Morris lit a fire under tru’s @ss and the rest of the secondary.
     
    Also another thing nobody talks about or likes to mention is race plays a part as well. Asante, Dwayne Bowe, and both my cousins Jeremy Mincey and Justin houston have told me how some of the white coaches treat or talk to black players. You’ll NEVER hear this outside of me saying this here or if you know some black nfl players. That’ll also make a difference in how players respond to the coach. I would tell you some of the things they’ve been told by coaches but just take my word for it. 
  13. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by kiwifalcon in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    @TheFatboi that would be Doug Mallory apparently he’s still the DB assistant.I mentioned this in another thread about the play of this team players are responsible for it for sure no doubt.
    BUT coaching is everything they set the tone they dish up the plan of attack if this is awry the players look bad executing a poorly laid out above mentioned.
    It shouldn’t really matter who you have talent good average poor it’s still a coaches job to use players to there best ability and maximise what you have.You see it all over the league.
    KS had a offense here in 16 that was one of thee best in NFL history.
    Sark had it the next 2 years and struggled now Koetters got it and is still struggling.While the former has gone to the west coast and nie on has a QB who doesn’t pass the ball and is going to the SB now tell me whose maximising what they have.
  14. Vandy liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Agree to disagree. I saw him jamming in the second half of the season. Especially on 3rd Downs, where they went down to only 28% conversion rate. Now I do agree some of it is him wanting to play off. That’s his choice.
     
    Asante chose to play off as well. It was his choice. He told me this personally. And who tutored tru and alf as rookies? Asante. I’ve told you guys Asante wanted another year with his pups because he felt they leave too many pick opportunities on the field. So it’s not about fear of getting beat. It’s just easier to watch the qb playing off in zone.
     
    That’s another thing. It’s cover 3 zone so he’s already gonna play 5-7 yards off the line. When Morris took over we played cover 1 on 3rd Downs hence where you saw more in your face jamming from tru and ALL the corners because now they’re only 1-3 yards off the line. Again, it’s scheme to me. If you call cover 3 as the coverage, which UTILIZES bail technique AUTOMATICALLY they line up 5-7 yards off the line. It’s their CHOICE to be 5 or 7 yards.
     
    There are some cover 3 press where it’s zone but they give a man look and press at the line but we rarely use cover 3 press. When we press we’re indeed in cover 1. And you eluded to the reason we got beat so much in cover 3 earlier in the year, is because quinn was abc...123 about it. Which is why I said scheme. Morris changed things and by communication I’m sure he TOLD tru to get in somebody’s face and put a hand on him. Which is why I definitely saw him do just that in the second half of the season.
     
    THAT is Morris coaching over the other guy that was coaching the secondary first half of the season. So I agree with you in some aspects where quinn was loosie goosie with soft cover 3. Of course the fans are gonna put it 100% on the players. Especially tru being the #1 guy. But trust me even vets need a coach that talks that right sh*t to them to get them playing to their potential. 
  15. Schwarzwald liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Belichick didn’t want TD to trade up for Julio   
    It’s a good deal of qb’s that can make that throw, tho it was impressive, but only about 3 wr’s that can make that catch. AB couldn’t make that catch because he’s too short. Matt only attempted the throw because of Julio. Nobody else on the team was making that catch. 
  16. Schwarzwald liked a post in a topic by TheFatboi in Belichick didn’t want TD to trade up for Julio   
    Put it like this. Matt never won a playoff game until Julio got here. The FO knew something. They knew we needed a dominant player that stresses out the defense and in turn makes it easier for Matt to read defenses because Julio dictates to the defense. Matt behave an absolute BEAST when he got young Julio. The proof is right before your eyes what the FO was thinking. Have you ever watched Julio play? And I mean since alabama? Not just in Atl. 
  17. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by FalconsIn2012 in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    I am in the minority, but I believe in confidence carrying over.  But when you fire all 3 Coordinators and changescheme on both sides of the ball, it's a reset and the previous year matters little
     
  18. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by FalconsIn2012 in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Between2016 and 2017 he was elite if he got his hands on you.  I think it was 30% of his targets in press resulted in an INT OR PBU which was by far tops in football
     
  19. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by duckhoa in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Wait....hyped?...he was a 4th round draft pick that turned into a solid starter for us. 
    I wish all our 4th rounders were as successful.....heck....I wish our 2nd rounders were as successful.  
    He has exceeded my expectations.  
    I just hope we use him a little differently going forward.  I was impressed with how he looks when he blitzes.  He can be used better, and does not deserve our disdain.  
  20. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by Vandy in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Joe Whitt Jr was an excellent yet underrated offseason hire. He did great work with that opportunistic secondary at Green Bay which was a huge factor in that team’s 2010 SB run.
     
    Kind of a long read, but Here’s an interesting aspect of his story:
     
    https://dyslexia.yale.edu/story/joe-whitt-jr/
  21. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by vel in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Well.... We changed every single coordinator after 2018 so any "momentum" was fired. We're keeping Morris in place.
  22. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by ya_boi_j in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    Probably in a small group but I was highly impressed by the young guys play when this happened, even Oliver
  23. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by vel in Why Falcons' defensive turnaround could be sustainable into 2020   
    A lot of good points in this article, but I bolded what I thought were the most notable parts. Particularly the last paragraph. I said the same during the turnaround. The question was always going to be "who can fix this defense?" if you fired DQ and they're betting on it being Morris. 
    I think this defense can be a good unit under Morris. They ran more coverages than just Cover 1/3. They mixed up looks. They even showed some man alignments with zone drops post-snap, something we've never seen under DQ. I think Morris, after going back through and watching, has a better feel for today's NFL. You clearly saw the production on third down, the clearly tighter coverage, which helped bring the pass rush alive. The better pressure looks. The better stunts. Things just functioned a lot better with Morris leading the charge. 
    I'm optimistic about him. He's always been able to get through to players at their level and get them to perform. Even look at Oliver. Went from mediocre at best during the first 8 games to actually showing the upside some of us have believed in. Sheffield blossomed a lot as a rookie. Stuff like that is a big deal and I point to Morris more than anything. 
  24. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by Vandy in Belichick didn’t want TD to trade up for Julio   
    He did in 2012 NFCG against 49ers with two great TD catches in that game as well. I have no doubt we whoop ravens *** in that SB.
     
    Bad coaching has cost him two rings. 
  25. TheFatboi liked a post in a topic by youngbloodz in Belichick didn’t want TD to trade up for Julio   
    Well Julio put us in position to win the Super Bowl with a great catch. He did his job.