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TheFatboi

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  1. On 8/1/2020 at 3:53 PM, caponine said:

    Deion Jones to match up physically and athletically with the TE's in the NFL today ?? Personally i think he can. He definitely has the ability to contain Kittle, not saying shutting him down. He is sideline to sideline and very intelligent. If you look at his play, he can pretty much cover the route tree when it comes to rb's or te's there is not many LB's that can do that. Feel like we can do more things with him, he's so versatile 

    Matching up with TE’s isn’t really his responsibility in our system. He’ll usually be on running backs. That’s the MLB’s responsibility usually. The SLB usually takes the TE. That’s why Campbell was usually on TE’s. Either the SLB or SS will be on a TE. Whether it’s base 4-3 or nickel. The TE just isn’t usually the MLB’s responsibility. That’s why Debo has been so great against backs out the backfield. That’s his job. If we’re in man to man he’s watching the tailback and follow him whenever he goes. If we’re in zone he’ll cover his area. If a TE comes in his zone he’ll cover his area until the TE runs out of his zone. 
     

    The question you have to ask yourself is would you want Debo covering kittle in man to man it would you want him covering Coleman out of the backfield? I’d want him on Coleman because he has the speed to cover enough ground to break the play up or keep it to a short gain. Foye can run with Kittle if he’s in on nickel or walker who has the length and speed to run with Kittle. The only thing with him is knowing and trusting his assignment. Or you can match a safety on Kittle. The main thing is the pass rush hurrying Jimmy’s decision. Which would make him throw the short pass to Coleman which Debo 10 x outta 10 will break up or keep to a short 2-3 yard gain. 


  2. On 8/3/2020 at 12:13 PM, FalconsIn2012 said:

    Kazee is just so slow to react.  He rarely is in position to help on either boundary.  If you watch when our corners get tested deep when we are in single high, Kazee is always two steps away from the play.  He does have a great nose for the ball...like him in big Nickel sets

    It’s not that he’s slow to react. It’s that the better qb’s like Brees can look him off and get him to go where he DOESNT want him to be. Which is why I don’t care how much ppl hate Rico. Brees can’t look Rico off. Rico is a great chess player on the back end. Not so much of a risk taker and even that may change with what Whitt coaches about taking the ball off ppl. I’ve mentioned this several times that kazee is always looking to make a pick that he’ll leave his corners hanging because a good qb got him to make a false step with a pump fake or a good old fashioned look off, which is why you think he’s always a second or so too late. 


  3. 2 hours ago, NaGaBoy said:

    You make a good point.  I think Joe Montana would have been a bench warmer for some coaches.  Instead, Bill Walsh analyzed his capabilities and created an offense that turned Joe from a weak armed QB to a strong offensive threat.  We need more like Bill Walsh in the NFL.  And, yes, BB does the same.

    Exactly. A lot of times it’s just getting in the right situation at the right time. for players. Now we just need the coaches to deliver. I’m not putting ya in the SB but we should at LEAST be a sure shot playoff team. We really rounded out the edges with former 1st round talent that I feel we wanted/scouted during their drafts. 


  4. On 8/2/2020 at 11:30 AM, FalconFanSince1970 said:

    Treadwell, Harris, Carpenter...

    I’m reserving comment here bro. Treadwell never played with a qb like Matt that spreads the ball and can throw into tight windows, Harris was on the sucky fins so we don’t know for sure if it was just him it the result of nobody wanting to play on that team, and carpenter sucks foreal but even he may be better in year 2. Especially with a strong running game to take pressure off the line. 


  5. This is kinda a Bill Walsh thing. This is partly how he built the 80’s niners. Cast away top rounders and injured players along with his scheme specific drafting. It works guys. BB does the same thing. And the thing is we don’t need any of these guys to hold the weight. We have our stars already for that.  Matt, Julio, Debo, Grady, Neal, and Rico. We don’t even need Gurley to be full Gurley because if Julio and Ridley. We’ll be fine with 70-80% Gurley. And the THREAT of him makes this the most dangerous offense in the nfl because he can still play and can still hit the hole with authority and burst and urgency. Sometimes the right change of scenery is all a player needs. Miami has sucked for a while now but they’ve kept good players around that underperform. Even Suh looked like it was a wrap when he was there. 


  6. 1 hour ago, Vandy said:

    Great post. Completely agree on Fowler, it really is all in how Quinn/Morris utilize him.

    I think a healthy Takk has his break-out season.

    Also, sneaky good signing of D Bucannon adding to (as you said) an already good LBer core.

    Absolutely. They made great moves imo. The only thing I agree with what dude said was they have to go out on the field and prove it. That’s every season tho. But I think they have a chip on their shoulders anyway so they can’t wait to prove it. If we can get back to similar 2016 type of play where we get up 2 scores or more and turn the defense lose we will indeed be in the playoffs. Part of the issue with last season is we feel behind some early. We’re built to get a lead and pin our ears back and go after the qb. If anybody noticed we used to defer the toss. But second half of the season we were taking the ball first so we could score first and get the early lead. It yielded excellent results. If the defense shows it can get stops early I think we’ll go back to deferring the toss. But that’s really it in a nutshell. We’re built to get leads and go after the qb. That’s the team philosophy. So when they get off schedule giving up early leads  it looks bad because we ain’t built for that. 


  7. 10 minutes ago, Vandy said:

    I’m excited about the changes we’ve made this offseason on defense, an area of team I’m usually critical of....actually more excited than I’ve been since 2016, when myself and @TheFatboi were feeling it.

    And yes, I keep hearing peeps claim Fowler might regress because he’s no longer playing alongside Aaron Donald ..but since when is playing alongside Grady Jarrett some huge drop off?

    Playing next to Grady should yield similar type results for Fowler. But even more it depends on how Quinn and Morris feature him. And he’s absolutely wrong about LB being a weak spot on the defense. Since 2017 the falcons have had a top 10 LB unit and they rated them 7th going into this season. He’s wrong about Rico being talent deficient. He’s as athletic as any safety in the nfl. And being smart is indeed a talent. Why is Matt Ryan the QB he is?  It ain’t because of his athletic ability alone. The secondary doesn’t look weak to me at all. They’re bigger for one on the outside tandem and AJ is going to be a player. If he can have anywhere close to the rookie year lattimore had we’ll be in the playoffs. And that doesn’t mean he won’t get beat because Julio took lattimore’s lunch as a rookie but his entire seasonal body of work was excellent. Plus Morris dialing up the plays will make a helluva difference. The DL is def improved. Younger and meaner. Takk is my only real question. And that’s can he hold up. He’s always getting hurt. 


  8. On 6/22/2020 at 11:17 AM, ya_boi_j said:

    If Dirk learns from his run his run game errors and Quinn doesnt call any plays on defense, I honestly think we see a huge improvement 

    Yessirr. If we started the season off with the coaching in place the way it was second half of the season I think we would’ve made the playoffs last year. Starting off on the right foot this season and we’re much improved for sure. 


  9. 4 hours ago, Vandy said:

    Falcons have figured out how to get the max out of Julio without overusing him. They rest him when he’d (the competitor) much rather be in there. It’s why I’m real excited about gurley’s prospects for this upcoming season. Coaches will space out his PT with Ito/hill/Ollie.

    BTW, @AUTiger7222was kiddingly using levity in his post to me about Julio’s “laziness”. 

    Oh yea I know he was lol. And I’m also exited about Gurley. He takes a ton of pressure off Julio and Matt. Forces defenses to respect the run again and can’t just sit on the pass. Should be an interesting season. 


  10. 2 hours ago, Vandy said:

    Hope you’re right bro, as noted in my post above, wouldn’t surprise me if he takes longer than Lattimore due to lack of normalcy this season in practice reps.

    Long time no see. How you been? 

    That could definitely be a factor for sure. I think AJ has the talent to bypass some of that. He’s the real deal. And he’s a high iq player. Even if he starts the season off slow because of the reasons you stated I think he’d finish strong. He’s that kind of player. Has a dawg mindset on the corner. 


  11. 1 hour ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

    Stop it man. Give me a tight end who has over 145 catches in one season. Thomas ain’t a tight end 

    I didn’t say he was a TE. I said he was Shannon Sharpe on the outside. Shannon was a WR in college and Dan Reeves converted him to TE where he dominated because he dominated because he was a WR playing TE. MT is EXACTLY how shannon was in college as a WR. Tough, physical, with great route running ability but wasn’t the fastest guy on the block. Does that explain what you obviously didn’t understand what I meant probably because you didn’t know the history of shannon sharpe? But at the same time If Tony Gonzalez was targeted as much as MT is you’re telling me he wouldn’t have 145 catches? If Julio was targeted as much as MT on shorter routes he’d have 145 catches. But the funny thing is Drew Brees usual gawdy numbers have declined. Because he doesn’t have the arm he used to have and Payton has gone to the short game which MT excels at. I didn’t belittle MT. You just took it that way. He’s a volume guy. And that’s ok. He and Julio have 2 different games. He can’t do what Julio can but Julio can play the short game too. And I can say all that and still give MT his props for doing what HE does well. 


  12. On 6/15/2020 at 8:53 PM, Vandy said:

    Realistically? it’s gonna take him a couple years.

    I think he will be more like lattimore. Similar games. He’ll hit the ground running and turn in a great rookie campaign. Even tho he’ll have his lunch taken by Evans. Don’t think Thomas will beat him if they play man to man against the saints. But Evans will be a handful. 


  13. 2 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said:

    But that's not the case with Julio. Vandy you and I are aware that Julio is lazy because the Falcons call a 3rd down play where Julio isn't on the field and that's because Julio is lazy and needs to take plays off because he's always hurt.

    Julio def ain’t lazy lol. And he ain’t taking himself off the field. The coaches are. If Julio ain’t on the field you don’t know who may be getting the ball in those situations. Even tho Sanu was the top 3rd down wr for the entire time he was a falcon. 


  14. On 6/17/2020 at 6:16 PM, JD dirtybird21 said:

    That isn’t true. Thomas is a more complete receiver. He’s virtually unstoppable on getting 8-10 yard catches. Which is also really dangerous for inside the 10 yard line in the red zone. Julio on the other hand is a more dangerous football player. He can take the top off any defense and he is much more explosive. Personally, I’d rather have Julio. But to say he’s better than everything that Thomas does simply isn’t true 

    But when you play the saints man to man Thomas can disappear. The reason Thomas is so good in that 8-10 yard range has a lot to do with Kamara. If you play man to man with Thomas you turn your back on Kamara coming out of the backfield. If you play zone Thomas will short game you to death. We rebuilt the secondary to better play physical man to man with aj. Kinda like the saints did with lattimore. They play tight man coverage mostly. With Morris and the new secondary coach I expect to see more physical man corner play. Which will alter those little dink and dunk throws from to Thomas. And kamara isn’t running away from Debo out is the backfield. So if the Corners respond to the teaching of the technique and the front seven continues the play of the second half of last year I don’t think Thomas will hurt us as much. Ala how we played them last year in the 1st game. 

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