Star players? We have Abraham and Grimes, those are the only two players we've had who are Top 10 at their position, by any metric you use, and Babineaux is right up there as well. We have a lot of solid players, but you are grossly ignorant of the talent on other teams and the Falcons. Curtis Lofton, Stephen Nicholas, Kroy Biermann, and Dunta Robinson are solid, but they aren't near what you make them out to be, and this is coming from someone who's been called a "homer." Ed Reed missed half the season, and so what, and he still lead the league in interceptions. We're talking about over the years. Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson, Bart Scott, Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas, Peter Boulware, Sam Adams, Chris McAlister, Haloti Nngata, and I could keep going. These are All-Pro caliber players, some even Hall of Famers. You can't tell me we've had this kind of talent these past three years. Look at ALL the players we've had the past three years who have ever made a Pro Bowl and tell me we stacked up to the talent the Ravens have had... John Abraham, Brent Grimes, an ancient Lawyer Milloy, an ancient Keith Brooking, and... that's it. How about the Steelers? Troy Polamalu, Joey Porter, Jason Gildon, Casey Hampton, James Farrior, Aaron Smith, James Harrison, Lamarr Woodley, and I can keep going. How about how they regressed horrible as a defense when Troy Polamalu was out? How the Ravens pass defense took a huge drop once Ed Reed went out. The Patriots? Their offense, really? In 2007, Brady had an absolutely insane amount of time in the pocket. ESPN once showed a play where Brady had over 7 seconds to sit, without moving, in the pocket one game before throwing a bomb to Randy for a score. Their Pro Bowl LT, Matt Light, was picked in the 2nd round. Logan Mankins was a first round pick at guard. Their RT was a 3rd rounder. Their center was a 7th rounder, and their RG was a UDFA. About par for the course. When they were winning Superbowls, they had numerous Pro Bowl/All Pro caliber players. Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Richard Seymour, Mike Vrabel, Vince Wilfork, Asante Samuel, Ty Warren, etc. The Patriots were hardly a talent depleted team. Even when Cassel stepped in, there was a noticeable drop-off in production, but he's hardly been bad in KC. He doesn't have near the surrounding talent, but in what world is 27 TDs, 7 INTs, and a Pro Bowl year bad? Must have been Belichick too... oops, he's not coaching Kansas City. How about the Saints. Yeah, the defense that gave up 42 points compared to our defense giving up 41, big difference. That guy that everyone wants fired over there for their defense constantly under performing. Picking up Pro Bowlers Jonathan Vilma and Darren Shaper didn't help, nope. Couldn't have been the talent they have at CB could it? How about their Pro Bowl DE? Yeah, it was all Gregg Williams, the guy people want fired now. Yeah, I watched that miserable game. I watched Chris Owens get roasted like he did against the Bengals numerous times, and when they were converting for first downs or throwing bombs on him, he was committing PI in the end zone. Let's not forget how many times we whiffed on sacks. Darn you BVG for not wrapping up the QB! Why aren't you teaching your professional football players pee-wee tackling fundamentals. Thomas Dimitroff signed BVG to an extension this off-season, so I'm pretty sure you and TD are at odds here. Never heard of a "weak link" coordinator being signed to an extension. You might want to rethink yourself a bit. EDIT: It would probably help if you even followed the Falcons a bit. It's pretty bad when you call our 2007 defense, 29th in points and yards allowed, something remotely good.