PeytonMannings Forehead

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  1. Pretty much. Falcons stopped playing about a month ago, so I stopped paying attention.
  2. Well, hey, the way they’re scrambling right now to get the running game going, I’m sure we’ll see more of that sooner or later, especially as Sark gets more of his offense in.
  3. Referencing something vel pointed out last year... We were #1 in time of possession per drive, #2 in number of plays ran per drive, and #3 yards per drive, and #7 in points per drive last season. An offense doesn’t move the ball like that if your offensive coordinator were anywhere near as bad as this board tried to make him out to be.
  4. They can’t pass block either. We’re 11th in passing attempts and 26th in rushing attempts. Matt threw the ball, what, 39 times last game? There’s only so much more unbalanced you can get behind this line considering they’re still in the bottom 5 for most quarterback hits allowed. It doesn’t always look it but what few rushing attempts we do have keeps the defense honest and actually helps out the line when we do go playaction. You tip the run/pass ratio any further Matt loses what little protection he’s still got. Matt’s already doing enough chuckin’ and duckin’ as it is.
  5. If he does we’ll just complain how he did it against a weak line.
  6. Nowhere close to that unless your trade partner is Jerry Jones.
  7. Okay, been meaning to get this one for a while. About a month or so ago after our first game I made a thread pointing out how Matt missed a couple of gimmies that could have changed the outcome by not going through his pre-snap reads and I think what I was saying might have went over a few folks' head. Well as I suspected, he quickly got the problem ironed out and has been playing light's out the past few games. And when I say "lights out", I mean he's putting up another MVP caliber season that I fear is going to waste. But that's neither here nor there today. I wanna talk about the good. PRE-SNAP READ (PSR): first off, what is a pre-snap read? Glad you asked. It's exactly what it sounds like. The QB steps to the line and he's going to get a read on the defense before the ball is snapped. He's looking for every little clue that's going to if not completely give away the exact coverage, narrow it down to one or two possibilities. Now every QB, every system has its own "ritual" if you will, but generall speaking QB breaks the huddle, ideally with around 16-15 seconds on the playclock. He's wants to get everyone lined up so he can take his time looking over the defensive alignment. He's looking at the safeties. This is a big one because corners can lie, linebackers can lie but safeties will tell you the truth. Their alignment will usually give away the coverage. Are there two high safeties, or one high? Two high, it's cover-2, man under, or quarters. One high, it's cover-1, or cover-3. Are there two high safeties but they are both sitting really shallow, like under 10 yards? That's an oh **** moment. That's cover-0. You know the defense is bringing the house and the ball's gotta come out quick. What's the depth of the safeties and width? If there are two safeties sitting at around 10-12 yards and they are split kind of wide of the hash, then that's some sort of Cover-2. Are there two safeties sitting a little more shallow, say around 10 yards and they're tucked in a little tighter than normal, sort of hovering over the #2 receiver, that's quarters. Then you move to your corners. Are they pressed or playing off? Are they looking at the QB or the receiver -- that's a big clue man or zone. If they're looking at the QB almost 100% zone. Is one pressed and the other playing off? That's a clue that you're gonna get some sort of split field coverage like Cover-6. If you are in a 3 receiver set what's the slot corner doing? Is he directly over the slot receiver or is he cheating over close to the LOS? If he is and the safety to that side is sitting shallow and playing closer to the LOS than normal, that's a slot corner blitz. What's the linebacker's doing? Are they aligned over their normal gaps or are they maybe stepped over kind of funny? That could tip a blitz, etc. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Every single snap of the game the QB is taking seconds right before the snap to gather as much information as possible. And that information is going to tell him where his first look is on the play. Every play has a progression, 1 to 2, to 3. But who the first look is on the play is determined by the PSR. That's the point I think a few people were missing on the thread I'm referring to. Now I want to first take a look at what it looks like when it's done wrong. This play right here the Eagles are in Cover-0. No doubt about it, the alignment of the safeties gives it away. Instead of taking Sanu right there in the slot who was uncovered, Matt forces the ball to Julio on a 7 route. Wrong read. This is the stuff that keeps points off the board and gets you beat. The PSR should have taken him to Sanu as the first look. Now here's what it looks like when it's done right. I'm gonna throw up a couple of plays... not all in order but (I think) but bear with me. Play #1 - 1st quarter, we're looking at 2nd and 4. You can't see it from the tv copy but it looks like the Bucs were in 3-Cloud (could have also been Cover-6) with a safety over the top to help the underneath corner on Julio to the top of the screen. Good anticipation on this call because we aren't even gonna keep Julio on that side and make it easy for the D. Julio motions across the formation, turning it from a trips look to a trey y-flex. As you can see, the corner does not follow Julio, confirming that this is zone. And here's our new formation. Now what have we learned that we can add to our PSR info? Corner stayed to the top of the screen and didn't follow Julio so we know it's zone. Julio is uncovered in that #3 position and the safety to his side of the formation is still sitting at 12 plus yards so a pressure is unlikely. So we've narrowed the defense down to a zone, most likely a split field coverage based off the corner and safety. Matt pretty much knows right now what side of the field he's going to read first. Quick look at the routes we got Julio running sticks, Sanu clearing out the underneath stuff on a vertical, Ridley a speed out. To the top of the screen Hooper running a hook, Coleman leaking out to the flat. And here we go. Safetys bail and the flat defender follows Coleman, which makes it look to me like the may have checked the coverage to Mable, but whatever the case that's curl/flat concept to that side of the field. Bucs have no chance. As soon as the flat defender follows Coleman the ball comes out right now to Hooper. Hooper didn't quite get deep enough so it's 3rd and 1, but you can see the principles at work. 2nd and 4 just gone get the easy throw. Pass rush has no chance. Matt stays clean.
  8. He had better players in Chicago. Just like the defense DQ coordinated in Seattle that finished one year with 39 turnovers had better players.
  9. When you mention bend but don’t break you are taking scheme. What happened to Lovie’s teaching in Tampa because they didn’t produce turnovers there, even when he did can Leslie Frazier and take over the defense.
  10. Still philosophically the same defense. There's no inherent advantage the Tampa 2 has in creating turnovers that ours doesnt. Quinn's Seattle defense created turnovers. It's players. Not x's and o's.
  11. Mike Smith did. Let Nolan come in and run a scheme totally unlike anything he'd done in his coaching career. Teryl Austin and Marvin Lewis actually have a fair amount in common as far as scheme, especially in the back end with some of their coverages.
  12. You know "bend but don't break" is exactly what Tampa-2 is.
  13. x’s and o’s

    Absolutely. Totally fair assessment, especially if you're high on Matt Ryan as a player, you expect him to make that throw against Cincy to Hooper to ice the game. As well as Matt is playing, and make no mistake, he has really turned it up, there is still another level to get to. Even he indicates that in some of his press conferences. @slickgadawg good stuff. As much as I admire what Belichick has done, the recency bias still bugs me when I see the way some of these other all-time great coaches get lost in the shuffle. Landry was one of the great football minds the game has ever seen. He not only invented a defense that's still used today (60 years later), but he was a cutting edge offensive mind. It's mindblowing to think about. One of my favorite anecdotes I heard was from when he and Lombardi were defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively, with the Giants. When Lombardi left to go to Green Bay, he took Landry's defensive playbook. But when Landry left for the Cowboy's he didn't take Lombardi's offense -- he invented his own.
  14. x’s and o’s

    Yeah, pretty much. I mean there might be some incremental differences but yeah, it's pretty much the same thing. Kind of like how the good ole burst concept is called Burner in Sark's playbook. Everybody wants to put their own spin on everything. I mentioned this a few weeks back, I think when a game was going on, how strange it was to watch college quarterbacks taking more punishment than their pro counterparts. And to think how up in arms I was a few years back when the NCAA made a targeting foul an ejectable offense -- I thought it was gonna ruin the game. Who knew they'd wind up looking moderate in the end.
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    this is hilarious! Man is an artist running routes. Everybody is wowed by his physical skill-set, I don't think a lot of people realize just what a technician he is. This is why I don't trip over the lack of touchdowns. He's playing at as high a level as any receiver out there right now and making this passing game go. I got a couple of pages from the Falcons actual defensive playbook last season and I've been wanting to get some stuff up, but the D has really been hurting my eyes lately. I'm gonna force myself here in a little bit because there are one or two positives to glean on... well maybe one.
  16. x’s and o’s

    I had a really good view of that play from my seat and Matt just flat out underthrew it. And it wasn’t great ball placement either. He left it short and inside. A go-route like that you’re supposed to put over the outside shoulder of the receiver. That’s been the only disheartening part of Matt’s play this season because he’s been lights out everywhere else... even on that same route to Ridley, but for whatever reason he hasn’t been able to connect with Julio deep.
  17. x’s and o’s

    Well... yeah. Of course he has to read. Was there an implication in my posts that he didn’t? My bad if that wasn’t clear. Just keeping that part in broad strokes as line protections and rb responsibities are so comprehensive they need their own thread. yes a scan is still a read.
  18. x’s and o’s

    Yes he is in a scan protection. That means he’s scanning inside first then out looking for threats, which is how it usually goes when a back is in protection vs. if he was in a check/ release where he makes a quick check to see if the LB he is responsible for is blitzing then releases out into the pattern. Of course there’s a lot more responsibities all based on the line call but that’s the general ones.
  19. x’s and o’s

    Play #5 - last one. Once again, motion will tip the coverage. Sanu comes across the formation. #29 follows. This signals man coverage all the way, but we're not quite done gathering information. Take a look at the safety to the top. Look how shallow he's playing. It's 3rd and 7 and he's playing in front of the yellow line at about 6 and a half yards. That's a tip this is a pressure all day, and probably a big one. Take a look at the rest of the D. Look at the corners. The corner to the top and the corner to the bottom are pressed up and in the face of the receivers. They aren't looking at the Qb at all. So what do we know so far. 3rd and 7, a prime blitz down when you haven't been getting there with 4. We got corners pressed up in a man look and a safety playing shallow, meaning he's in man on the TE or RB... meaning they're bringing pressure. Now usually, this means the ball has to come out quick, but we've got a veteran QB who ain't prone to flinching. Once again, he knows where he is protected at. This time we have a 7 man protection with Hooper and Coleman staying in to block. I think Matt knew where he was going the whole way with Julio out there on Grimes, who never had a chance. Matt knows the 7 man protection will give him time to hold the ball for Julio to run that double move vs. the first gif I posted from the Eagle game where it was only a 6 man protection vs. 7. Btw, this route is called a Blaze Out in Shanny's playbook. This is the same route Julio scored on last season against Tampa. I just wanted to throw it up because it's sooo pretty. A receiver Julio's size should not be able to run this route so sharply.
  20. x’s and o’s

    Play #4 - 3rd and long. Tampa is showing pressure with all the gaps mugged up. But once again, PSR. The safeties tell you the truth. The deep safety is standing back there at 13 yards. That not a normal pressure look. That's a look a defense give you when They're faking a pressure. Matt can tell by the alignment of the safeties and the fact that Hoop is uncovered that there are only 4 coming. In other words he knows it's not Cover-0 with everyone coming and he's got a 6 man protection so he knows he's got time. This is what you get when you have a smart veteran QB. He knows what's coming. He knows where he's protected so he doesn't have to rush. The guy playing mike bails into a Tampa-2 look to close the middle of the field. Hooper sits it right down just pass the sticks. Easy completion for the conversion... and a great block by Coleman to come across the formation and keep Matt clean.
  21. x’s and o’s

    Play #3 - here is the very next play and guess what? Yep. Another RPO. Teco motions in, for the corner is still playing way off. Matt gets the ball and gets it out to Calvin on the speed out. Beautiful football. This isn't the type of stuff that's going to make a highlight reel, but this is high level quarterback play. This is winning football. Mike Smith wants to keep playing the corners off and giving you easy completions, take 'em. This is what Matt wasn't doing in week one against the Eagles. Note the PSR once again. Coleman is out wide and the linebacker is #54 is hovering over Calvin. Teco motions into Matt, linebackers walks back in-line, but the corner doesn't press up. Matt knows he's got Calvin all day. Matt reads #54's alignment. Knows he can't make a play on the ball. Easy first down. But once again the motion clarifies the PSR.
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    Play #2 - This play was actually an RPO believe it or not. Yes, we do run RPO's and we have been running them for quite a long time. This time Matt holds the count to get the Bucs to show their hand. The Bucs jump into their shell and show pressure off the edge. Matt's on it and sees it the whole way. Didn't hear him call "Can" here which is our version of killing the first play and going to the second. This was 1st and 15 after a 12 men in the huddle penalty. Matt sees pressure look and the corner playing almost 10 yards off Julio and decides to throw it out quick. *Note, you can tell the RPO based off the run action of the line. Everyone is run blocking, even Sanu. Great run after the catch by Julio. Another tidbit, this pressure off the edge is something that Pittsburgh got us with a couple of times last week. I was upset that we didn't have an answer. Couple of times the Steelers brought it they did a beautiful job of disguising it. They literally didn't show it until it was too late in the clock to make an adjustment. Knew we'd see it again this week and I'm glad Sark and company had an answer. Bucs don't have a great pass rush so you had to know they were going to mix in a good amount of pressures. Note how much time is left on the playclock. There was a nice flow to the offense this week. They were getting in and out of the huddle with a nice crisp pace to give Matt time to work.
  23. Also, I didn’t see that ranking factor in quarterback hits which is a big one for me. Maybe I missed it. But right now our line is ranked #2 for the second most quarterback hits allowed with 47. Houston is #1 with 65. Just for context the team that has surrendered the fewest quarterback hits is the Saints with 17 on the season.
  24. Looks like that stat is just related to sacks per pass attempt with a modifier in for certain downs like 3rd and long which is certainly more comprehensive than just a regular stat. But I didn’t see anything regarding pressures or a modifier for how quickly the quarterback gets rid of the ball, which can absolutely make a lines pass blocking look better than it really is on paper.