Tim Mazetti reacted to athell in What a Ryan trade to Chicago could look like
Did you not say "he never was a great outdoor/weather qb. He's just not that kind of qb.."?
Do those advanced stats and metrics prove that to be incorrect?
Or are you part of the QBWinz crowd pinning wins and losses solely on the QB?
Tim Mazetti reacted to Vandy in What a Ryan trade to Chicago could look like
LOL, slummy. It’s become an annual ritual in here of you devising schemes on how we can rid ourselves of both Ryan and Julio since forever.
Bring back those exciting years of Doug Johnson, Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, Chris Redmond, and Kurt Kittner!
Tim Mazetti reacted to papachaz in What a Ryan trade to Chicago could look like
the Meat Beater 9000!
the thread derail to end all thread derails!
no less than the full on HIVE SOP DAP of thread derails!
and I might say, if there was EVER a thread that needed a meat beater 9000 derail, this one was IT!
Bravo my man, BRAVO!!!
@Ezekiel 25:17 @RING OF HONOR @Vandy @Knight of God @ya_boi_j @Tim Mazetti
I know I'm missing some, but man my fellow thread derailers, y'all have GOT to see this
I'm touched, in awe, amazed and just down right proud of @Ergo Proxy
edit to add:
do you think you just found the secret behind Popeye's chicken sandwich?
Tim Mazetti reacted to Sun Tzu 7 in What’s it like to play for Falcons coach Arthur Smith? - AJC
I have to admit for Smith to choose the grind of making his way up the ladder as an NFL coach... that's impressive.
Crazy hours and low pay.
And I won't fault him if his parents helped him out with the kids.
Tim Mazetti reacted to JDaveG in What’s it like to play for Falcons coach Arthur Smith? - AJC
If DLed was a minimally competent writer you wouldn’t have to ask.
But yeah, it’s Harry.
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by Ledbetter for the AJC
Players see coaches differently.
And what struck Douglas was how Smith handled the scout team, the backup players who help the starters get ready for games.
“If you want to be successful, get to the playoffs, you have to give our defense the best look,” Douglas told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “You can’t be lagging around and not going hard. He was basically telling them that every rep that you take is being evaluated. Just because you’re on the scout team doesn’t mean that it’s not being watched and evaluated. That’s how guys get put on the active roster by showing improvement every day on the scout team.”
Smith, who was named the Falcons’ head coach Jan. 15, will be tasked with revamping and winning over the locker room. The Falcons are coming off three consecutive losing seasons for the first time since 1999 to 2001.
After the franchise’s first Super Bowl season in 1998, the Falcons followed that with 5-11, 4-12 and 7-9. They went 9-6-1 in 2002 and upset the Green Bay Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau Field.
Douglas expects Smith to win the locker room.
“Everyone loved him in the locker room,” said Douglas, who played 118 games and made 40 starts in the NFL after starring at Jonesboro High and Louisville.
Smith also will be strong when speaking to the entire team.
“One part that I used to love about Art, when we did short-yardage, goal-line and red-zone (planning),” Douglas said. “Art used to get up in front of the team and present what we were going to do and what the other team liked to do down there and stuff.
“He was just so passionate to be up there, but at the same time he knew what the **** he was talking about it. I used to love Friday mornings listening to Art get up there and go over those situational football areas.”
Smith also will be open to receiving input from others, which he stated when he denounced groupthink in his opening news conference.
“This is one of the things that I love about him the most,” Douglas said. “He listens to other coaches. He listens to his players. At the end of the day, he’s going to have the final say.
“But he does have an open-communication policy within himself to not think he knows it all. To not think other people don’t have great ideas. Whenever you can work with somebody or be coached by somebody like that, great things are going to happen.”
Smith went on to become the offensive coordinator after Douglas retired.
He developed running back Derrick Henry into a force and helped to save the career of quarterback Ryan Tannehill.
“Derrick Henry loves Art,” Douglas said. “One of the things that D. Henry was telling me, and I know this personally, too, Art is a straight shooter. He’s going to lay things out on the line for you in the beginning. If you do the right things, work hard and you grind, he’s going to take care of you as a player.”
With Smith calling the plays, the Titans became the first team in NFL history with a 2,000-yard rusher and a 3,500-yard passer in the same season in 2020. Henry rushed for 2,027 yards and Tannehill passed for 3,819 yards.
“I was very excited for Arthur – I’m going to miss Arthur, man,” Henry said to Jim Wyatt of the Titans’ website on Thursday. “I’d been with Art since I came into the NFL and started playing for this organization. Arthur is a great guy. I couldn’t think of anybody else who is more deserving of the opportunity.”
The Falcons must improve their rushing attack over the offseason to simulate what Smith did with the Titans.
“I know he is going to do a great job,” Henry said. “I wish him the best in all the things that he does with his new coaching job in Atlanta.”
Smith will be firm and direct with his players.
“But not in a disrespectful way,” Douglas said. “In a way, to where people and the guys listen to him. Arthur is so well-respected because the man works so hard. I’ve seen him come from the bottom and work his way all the way up.”
The players gave that respect back to Smith as he was climbing the coaching ladder in Tennessee.
“When he was coaching me, everybody sat there, everybody was talking notes,” Douglas said. “If someone had a question. … He’d asked you, ‘Does anyone have any questions?’ He didn’t want anybody leaving the room without being on the same page.”
For eight months, Mike Mularkey a former Titans tight ends coach and later head coach, didn’t know Smith’s father was Fred Smith, founder and CEO of FedEx, who’s worth $5.7 billion, according to Forbes.
“I didn’t know,” Douglas said. “I was like Art, ‘Your daddy is the CEO of FedEx?’ He was like, yeah but. … We had a good conversation about that. He was like, ‘Listen Harry, I want to make my own name. I want to grind hard and make my own name. Do things for my family. My dad’s success has nothing to do with me.’ But you could see it in the way he worked. There was no sense of entitlement with Art. He just loves people, and people love him.”
Falcons offensive coordinator Dave Ragone, who played in the NFL from 2003-06, also saw how the players embraced Smith in Tennessee.
“I’m pretty sure if you asked anybody that he’s coached at the tight end position, or when he left as an offensive coordinator, they’ll say that he has no ego and is authentic,” Ragone said. “I think you saw the way that those Tennessee offenses played. They went through injuries. They had different guys in the lineup. I think you saw that on tape or when you played against that team.”
Ragone was the wide receivers coach for the Titans in 2011-12 and quarterbacks coach in 2013. He met Smith in 2011.
“He was on the defensive side of the ball,” Ragone said. “I was on the offensive side of the ball.”
It was the lockout year.
“We had an interesting offseason, not knowing when the players where going to arrive,” Ragone said. “Which allowed that staff to get really close in terms of getting to know each other, the personalities and going out after work. Getting to know each other on a personal level, just not on the X-and-O football level.
“There were similar things in our background in terms of education and some other beliefs in terms of football. We just hit it off from there.”
For the players who survive a roster purge, a transition period from the campy “Brotherhood” culture will follow.
“He’s going to demand excellence,” Douglas said. “He’s going to make sure that you work hard every day. If you’re not going to be that way, you’re not going to be there.”
Plain and simple.
Tim Mazetti reacted to Herr Doktor in Day 3 Senior Bowl Notes (Falcoholic)
NFL DRAFT SENIOR BOWL Senior Bowl 2021: Day 3 notes and observations
The final day of practice prior to Saturday’s game produced some interesting takeaways.
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The final day of practice at the 2021 edition of the Senior Bowl is one to pretty much wrap up things before the anticipated showdown on Saturday. A number of key prospects were held out of practice, on the day but that does not mean the action was diluted because of it. A number of prospects placed a bow on their practice time this week on day three. Let’s take a look at some of my key notes.
I haven’t mentioned them much in my previous columns from this past week but a couple of defensive backs left a lasting impression after having a productive week overall. Michigan’s Ambry Thomas and Oklahoma’s Tre Brown were able to display their polished skill set at the cornerback position on day three. Thomas in particular is a 6’1 corner out of the Big Ten that thrives in press coverage. His ability to stick to the hip of some elusive receivers out of their stance was impressive. Brown got injured on the final day of practice but his competitiveness and instincts against elite competition left everyone intrigued. Remember, the Falcons do not have a settled situation at cornerback, so they will be watching players like these with interest.
I mentioned him after day two and his name pops up again after day three. Wisconsin-Whitewater’s Quinn Meinerz is a tough piece of leather that you want on the interior of the offensive line. At 6’3 320 pounds, Meinerz was evaluated mainly as a center but I saw plenty to believe he can make the transition to guard. While not the most agile, Meinerz is able to move a bit and get to the second level. When he latches onto defenders, they are going for a ride and it’s going to be rude and disrespectful. There are often D-III prospects that make a name for themselves on the Senior Bowl stage. Meinerz did just that.
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Best case scenario for the Falcons if they were to add to the running back position via the draft would be either Alabama’s Najee Harris or Clemson’s Travis Etienne. But in the situation that they wait until a little later in the draft, remember the name Rhamondre Stevenson. Here is a guy out of the University of Oklahoma that improved his draft stock considerably this week. Entering Senior Bowl week, he was a likely mid-Day 3 guy but after the practice week, Stevenson can very well find his name called on late-Day 2. Not the biggest of backs, but he runs with power and is elusive enough to make a tackler miss. He was also equally impressive in the passing game as well as blitz pickup.
While I was unable to view the American team practice later in the afternoon, I was able to pick up a few notes from my writing colleagues in attendance. They all pretty much summed up that UCF’s Richie Grant was the ballhawk prospect that everyone expected of him. Grant hauled in another interception in practice and has been a menace at free safety, even seeing time in the slot. If there was one player that I viewed during the week that I believe the Falcons roster can desperately utilize, it was Grant.
Tim Mazetti reacted to GrimeyKidd in Video not for the weak. Matt Ryan looked completely different
Crazy when you have good coaching lol.
Tim Mazetti reacted to thanat0s in If the Falcons had gone BPA each year under TD...
Could you imagine our passing on Matt in 08? I can't even imagine. Despite the recent problems and 13-14, by far our best years have been with Matt under center.
I hated the Spoon pick from the word go. I hated the Jerry pick, even though I got that they chose need. My beef with the decision was, didn't anyone get a scouting report that let us know how absolutely lazy he was????
Davis would've been a great add there.
Tim Mazetti reacted to jidady in If the Falcons had gone BPA each year under TD...
This was a thread topic yesterday that used the fallacy that we could/would have taken the absolute best player on the board. Those are hindsight posts not based in reality.
However, Dimitroff's need-based drafting strategy DOES ignore the best players overall by favoring certain positions where we have weak starters/depth.
So, I pulled together Rick Gosselin's old boards plus NFL Draft Scout to evaluate who would have been reasonable options as BPA from 2008 through 2012.
For those of you unfamiliar with him, Gosselin nurtured strong relationships and trust with NFL personnel people. So, they would share their draft boards with him, entrusting him to keep the data private. Then, Gosselin would perform a service for the league by creating a composite top 100 board. It was the most accurate draft list in existence, one that teams used on Draft Day. So, it's as accurate as possible for this thought exercise.
I'll update through 2020 as time allows today. So, keep checking back.
Here's what my research shows:
2008: Pick #3 -- Matt Ryan was only #6 on Gosselin's board. So, we would have gotten the #1 player that year instead. Yes, it was Glenn Dorsey. The rest of the top five were Darren McFadden, Chris Long, Jake Long, and Sedrick Ellis.
2009: Pick #24 -- CB Vontae Davis, #13 overall on the composite board, was BPA. He would have been a good player for us. Beanie Wells would have been second. So, that wouldn't have been any better than Peria Jerry, who was #24.
2010: Pick #19 -- DT Dan Williams, #8 overall on the composite board, was clearly BPA when we drafted. This was a feast or famine pick, as #2 would have been Dez Bryant. Williams played seven years in the NFL but never was the same after breaking his arm in his second year. Weatherspoon was #26.
2011: Pick #6 -- This one doesn't matter since we had locked in on Julio. AJ Green was #1 on the board that year. I'm having trouble finding Gosselin's full board for 2011. I've found about 15 of the picks mentioned incidentally on old draft sites but am still looking for the full list.
2012: That trade also took us out of 2012's first round. Pick #55 --Jayron Hosley, CB. Gosselin's composite board had Hosley at #28, but he slid to #94. The latter still represented an overdraft. Our pick, Peter Konz, was ranked #30, which means we still theoretically received first round value. In fact, Konz would have been #2 on the board in BPA. Hilarious, right?
Tim Mazetti reacted to insight in The Draft Network - Reid's NFL Mock Draft 5.2
Why, the Falcons have 9 picks, and there is free agency.
Joe Burrow was not successful at Ohio State, became a Heisman winner when he transferred to LSU and thrived in their system.
Justin Fields, was only able to run a few wild cat plays at UGA, become became an instant star at Ohio State.
The coaching staff and GM should be focused on finding players that fits their scheme, culture and identify. There is more to the draft the finding a talented player especially when your talking about the QB position.
Tim Mazetti reacted to Pacific_Falcon in The Draft Network - Reid's NFL Mock Draft 5.2
We won't be picking this high again under AS, I would think, so getting a top QB in a future year would require a truckload of draft capital.
Really hard to tell how much is Darnold vs. the long-tenured incompetence of that franchise. Don't envy Saleh's position with figuring that out. That's a tough call because they have a shot at an elite QB prospect but they also have a 1st rd QB that they haven't had any opportunity to evaluate. So either they take a QB and who knows which is better, or they don't and end up potentially finding out Darnold is hot garbage.
Tim Mazetti reacted to g-dawg in The Draft Network - Reid's NFL Mock Draft 5.2
I could see the top 4 playing out just like this. Regardless of whether the Falcons ultimately go QB or not, I see Lawrence, Wilson and Fields all gone by pick#4 - maybe by Pick#3. Justin Fields probably has the highest upside of all three of these guys - maybe the most risk as well - the talent is there, he just needs to continue to mature and continue to get better at going through his progressions. Justin and Lawrence both can really spin it - Lawrence and Wilson are a little more advanced in reading the entire field. If Justin - hometown kid (lives 3 miles from my house) falls to #4 - I wouldn't bet on the Falcons passing on him - Fontenot and Arthur know they are in it for the long-haul and this is an elite QB class. 1.
With Urban Meyer as the new man in charge of the Jaguars, there may be some attempting to connect the dots to Ohio State. But that likely won’t be the case, as the team takes the best overall player in the draft in Lawrence.
Asked about it repeatedly since taking over in the Big Apple, new head coach Robert Saleh has been non-committal to QB Sam Darnold. Likely to be traded elsewhere, Wilson fills in as the new man under center. A natural at the position, Wilson is the exciting type of player that gives Joe Douglas a face of the rebuild that remains in progress for the Jets.
After showing some dents in his armor during the backstretch of the season, it’s clear that QB Tua Tagovailoa didn’t have much to work with on the perimeter. Tagovailoa is a quarterback that needs a strong supporting cast and Chase is the ideal type of player to insert into the lineup as Miami attempts to retool the arsenal of weapons around the 2020 No. 5 overall pick.
QB, Ohio State
With dead cap hits of $49.3 and $26.5 over the next two seasons, moving on from Matt Ryan may be unlikely. Whenever a team welcomes a brand new regime and has a top-five pick in the middle of a strong QB class, there are some opportunities that they can’t pass up. Ryan is far from the problem in Atlanta, but the positives of selecting Justin Fields and having him under a controlled cost for possibly the next five seasons while preparing him to be the heir apparent to Ryan makes too much sense.