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Return of the Gaucho

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  1. So, now can we compromise? https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/gxe451/armed_black_panthers_join_protest_in_georgia/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://decaturish.com/2020/06/presence-of-new-black-panther-party-members-at-decatur-protest-raises-questions-and-concerns/ Irrespective of the SPLC designations of the New Black Panthers, what happens when protestors peacefully exercise their second amendment rights in an open carry state? Which hypocritical side of the two party system breaks first? 🤔 I guess I’m just glad Reagan isn’t governor of Georgia right now.
  2. I would need 4 paragraphs and 3 footnotes to explain my position, so I will refrain.
  3. So without quoting every post, I do want to thank everyone who replied, though I have no idea how to link their handles in the reply. I went back and read a bit more, and I see no need to continue to debate the police vs. protesters issue that has been so thoroughly discussed. I would note that my issue lies with the, what I view as, correct distinguishing of the protesters from the looters, with the seemingly monolithic treatment of police in general. There is a certain appeal to the argument that police officers who are good, nevertheless fail their public when they are silent or allow bad cops to engage in exactly the behavior that has triggered these protests. Yet I see a clear tendency to paint the police as a bloc, and the protesters/looters as a dichotomy. That behavior of the police forces in the US by and large needs to change, but it isn't as simple as "more oversight" or "remove the power of the police unions." Oakland is the perfect example of what can go wrong with having a goal of reform without a plan. A federal lawsuit was brought against Oakland for civil rights violations due to the actions of several members of the OPD. The settlement of the lawsuit brought about major changes, federal oversight and an independent police commission to hold the police accountable. This has gone on nearly 20 years, and there have been a lot of changes in the OPD for the better, but the oversight remains. In 2016, a sexual assault case within OPD resulted in firings, and the resignation of the police chief, and the subsequent appointment of a popular and reform minded police chief named Anne Kirkpatrick. She was subsequently terminated by the oversight commission "without cause" for what she claims was the refusal to reimburse one of the commissioner's car towing fees. In the background of all of this, the police department is chronically underfunded and doesn't have the resources to adequately police the city in the best of times, let alone now. Every use of force, which in my understanding can be as simple as handcuffing, requires the officers involved and witnessing the use of force to file a report. This takes officers off the street daily to write these reports. It's all in the goal of accountability and reform, but it only exacerbates the problems. While the specifics are surely different in departments across the country, the underlying issues are not unique. When you add onto that the looting and rioting that has occurred over the past week, you take police officers who are already overstretched and force them to work significant overtime dealing with situations that they are quite frankly not trained for. The overzealous use of pepper spray, "non-lethal" rounds, and other tactics by the police is overwhelmingly unwarranted, but realistically what do you expect when a police officer is pushed to exhaustion and confronted with a mob? It doesn't excuse it, but I think it needs to be considered when judging these situations. The actions over the past week are not really reflective of the underlying issues of disproportionate targeting and treatment of minorities and the poor, and a lack of accountability for officers who either never should have been sworn in in the first place or those who weren't trained in how to handle things properly. So what is to be done? If someone says increase the police budget for training, more manpower for community policing, more oversight, etc., it seems to be a non-starter. Holding police accountable is certainly a goal I agree with, but how is it done without giving the police departments the resources to make the changes needed to prevent the abuses in the first place? Do you strip qualified immunity? Do you force police officers to carry their own professional liability insurance? I really don't have the answer, but I tend believe that more accountability needs to be forced on the police and adequate resources to meet those heightened standards should be part and parcel with the accountability. I'll end the wall of text there, but this issue is something I have followed closely since I began working as a public defender 10 years ago, and continues to be something I find myself dwelling on now that I have been in the civil arena for 5 or so years. As always, I do appreciate the thought that the posters in ABF tend to put in, despite my lack of participation.
  4. Serious question to everyone back in Georgia, has there been any serious looting? Just skimming the past couple pages, I get the feeling that a lot of people seem to be trashing the police response to some of these protests, but not a lot of discussion of the violence and looting that is also occurring. I will admit I didn’t go back through the past 50 pages in the last week, so I may have missed it. I now live in San Francisco, and work in Oakland. I was at a peaceful protest in Oakland last Friday, and left well before sun down. A bit after I left, a federal security guard/officer was murdered in a targeted killing, and another wounded. While that news was making it through the crowd, and once the sun started setting, opportunists, without much overlap with protesters, began looting and burning. They looted and tried to burn a Target a block from my office. Above that Target were about 200 new apartments, and graffiti on the building complained about”gentrifiers.” Many other stores in Oakland and San Francisco were looted that night, and then all over the Bay Area the rest of the weekend. The next day, 2 gun stores in the Bay Area were picked clean, and it appears the same group stole 16 cars from a dealership. Only part of this has been recovered. As the crime progressed, the response by the police started to increase in aggression. By Monday morning, most of the police around the Bay Area had been working 16 hour days, 3 out of 4 days. They were breaking. Their responses got more aggressive. I saw a water bottle get thrown from a crowd at police, which triggered tear gas. The Friday I was there in person, I watched water bottles, glass bottles, rocks, etc. be thrown at the line with barely a response. Things had changed. i guess my point of all this is as follows: the police actions in MN were appalling and demand justice. The protests were and are justified, but as the line between protester and looter blurred, and the police were pushed past their normal limits, the actions of both sides became more aggressive. There are certainly examples on both sides that were out of control. What I don’t see in the last couple pages is any real discussion of the context of these photos, just a bunch of shots at police response in the US as if it is somehow on par with much more brutal crack downs in Hong Kong, or brutal repression in Iran that has cost the lives of a thousand Iranians for every American protester who has been killed in the last decade. When did a demand for reform with America require this level of false equivalency? What am I missing?
  5. This is certainly better for the fans in Atlanta as they aren't robbed of a homegame, but I am bummed. We were going to go over for the game and visit family in Ireland for a week after. Oh well, that probably wasn't going to happen with the Covid stuff anyway.
  6. I have no issues with marijuana. It helps me out chill at the end of a long work day fairly regularly, and doesn't slow down the next morning like whiskey does. However, I will always have a problem with people who are faced with the choice of "weed or my career" and choose weed. I'm glad that testing for it is gone, because I think that is a stupid choice to have to make. Yet people who choose weed over a career will always seem foolish in my eyes, and doing so more than once makes you immature and stupid after getting the wake-up call. Players with multiple pops should be avoided at all costs, not because of weed, but because of their idiocy...
  7. Dude, the way you attack people who see something different that what you see is pathetic. A minimal deal for a low risk, high reward player is not something to get vicious about. We get it, you could do better than Dimi. Keep waiting by the phone and getting saltier with each passing silent day...
  8. A client of mine always sends me a nice bottle of liquor to start the year, and I just got this years gift, and quite frankly I had no idea such a thing existed. They sent over a bottle of "Amrut" a Single Malt Whisky, which is from India. Makes sense that India would have a whisky tradition given the colonial background, but it never occurred to me to before opening the box. https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/amrut-single-malt-whisky/ Really wish the work day was over to give it a taste...
  9. True, but I always thought it had depth that you don’t find in some of the other bourbons at the same price point. I always noted some sweetness and vanilla that you don’t find in the four roses and bulleits that are comprable, and it seemed to be a good introduction to the more complex flavors you find in the higher end bourbons. You’re right though, it’s barrel proof and really is a true sipper. Caution advised.
  10. Wild Turkey Rare Breed is a very good bourbon for the money. It can usually be found for around $40, and it’s a very good entry point into the sipping bourbons from the shooting/mixing types. As others have said, 4 roses is great too, just don’t get the entry line.
  11. I am fairly certain that people from Cleveland wouldn't spell "riff-raff" wrong twice in the same sentence...
  12. That is not the implication. The version I heard was that the waiver would waive employment related claims, which would not just be the lack of a job coming from this workout, but also the lack of employment for the last 3 years, the lack of future employment, and potential legal damages for lost earnings based on the underlying collusion claims that he settled previously. They specifically did not settle the employment claims, so this waiver, if it was as Kap's camp portrayed, would be an end run around his potential next lawsuit.
  13. And here are both sides of the story. The only issue I really have is if the NFL really tried to insert additional language into the waiver that may undermine any of Kap's additional legal rights for employment related claims against the NFL. The NFL said it was a standard waiver, Kap's people said it was not and included a bunch of additional clauses. Seems like a pretty easy point to prove one way or another as Kap's people had a copy of the waiver and submitted a revised version. Its a lot of legalese but there can be real impact on future litigation depending on the content of an employment agreement. I don't know much about Georgia's employment laws, but I suspect Georgia was selected for a reason. As for the filming, media, etc., I couldn't really care less. If it was all about transparency, then so be it, but people trying out for the NFL don't get to dictate terms, and it isn't like any other player gets to dictate terms and demand concessions like this. It seems to me that both parties are angling more for optics than a future employment relationship. If the NFL tried to get him to agree to an unreasonable waiver, it would be easy for Kap's camp to prove. If his camp doesn't counter the NFL's position, I have no faith that Kap really wanted anything more than a headline. If they do counter it and show the NFL tried to get one over, I think they just helped his next lawsuit, and I wish Kap luck.
  14. Seriously, the players TD assembled put a hurt on the Saints with a change in coaching. I swear some people are so entrenched in their positions that they will see anything as support for their arguments...
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