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    Beef got a reaction from therawest in DeAndre Hunter at 4!   
    Schlenk hates drafting second round players, but he made trades to move up and get Bruno, a guy most of us were saying get at 17 even.  Still can’t believe he lasted to 34.
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    Beef reacted to FalconsIn2012 in Falcons Top Rookies Standout During an Unusual Offseason   
    Guarantee in two years this will be Marlon during testing
     
     
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    Beef reacted to Artys Arryn in Falcons Thomas Dimitroff blows another 1st round draft pick   
    I said I've been around long enough to know no matter what this team does, there will be people here *****ing. That's a fact. 
    As for jumping to conclusions, here you are moaning on about how we didn't bench Matt Ryan 5 months ago so we could POTENTIALLY lose a couple more games for higher draft picks where were could have POTENTIALLY picked different players. Cause there's no way we could have taken Terrell, Davidson, and Hennessy 3 picks higher in each round. 
    That's exactly what I mean. You're still complaining about a decision that's half a year gone, that MAY have resulted in more losses, and if it had we MAY have chosen different players in the draft, and those different players MAY end up being better or worse than the players we actually got. If you can't see how asinine that is, it's on you. 
     
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    Beef got a reaction from ATLskinjob in AJ Terrell film breakdown (19:00 minutes)   
    A project??  WTF??
    The kid has arguably the best overall technique of any CB in the draft. Even Deion Sanders acknowledges this.  Silky-smooth feet and hips, turns his head, superb mirror speed and closing speed, body control, size, exceptional length, and a great fearless tackler.
    The #2 overall college defense and defensive coordinator put this kid on an island against every #1 receiver of every team they faced, and in 426 coverage snaps in 15 games, he only gave up 23 receptions and 3 TD’s, 2 of which were in one game against J’Marr Chase.
    And you think this guy is a “project”??
    LOL, dude you are really bad at this and should stop posting.
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    Beef got a reaction from ATL Fan in the DMV in ‘The Blanket’ - Isaiah Oliver   
    Oliver needs to drastically improve or we'll be drafting another CB next draft.
    65 completions on 98 targets (66%), 527 air yards and 381 yards after catch given up, and 5 TD's and 7 missed tackles on those 65 comps, overall 113 QBR allowed.
    That's bad.  Real bad.
    And Sheffield wasn't any better.
    41 completions on 55 targets (75% YIKES!), 213 air yards and 232 yards after catch given up, and 2 TD's and 5 missed tackles on those 41 comps, overall 110 QBR allowed.
    No wonder we were bottom in the league in pass coverage.
     
    ETA:  And here's Trufant for reference.  He wasn't any better either.
    25 completions on 38 targets (66%), 299 air yards and 143 yards after catch given up, and 4 TD's and 4 missed tackles on those 25 comps, overall 101 QBR.
    All terrible.
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    Beef got a reaction from Colbeee in AJ Terrell film breakdown (19:00 minutes)   
    A project??  WTF??
    The kid has arguably the best overall technique of any CB in the draft. Even Deion Sanders acknowledges this.  Silky-smooth feet and hips, turns his head, superb mirror speed and closing speed, body control, size, exceptional length, and a great fearless tackler.
    The #2 overall college defense and defensive coordinator put this kid on an island against every #1 receiver of every team they faced, and in 426 coverage snaps in 15 games, he only gave up 23 receptions and 3 TD’s, 2 of which were in one game against J’Marr Chase.
    And you think this guy is a “project”??
    LOL, dude you are really bad at this and should stop posting.
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    Beef got a reaction from dawgsfan426 in AJ Terrell film breakdown (19:00 minutes)   
    A project??  WTF??
    The kid has arguably the best overall technique of any CB in the draft. Even Deion Sanders acknowledges this.  Silky-smooth feet and hips, turns his head, superb mirror speed and closing speed, body control, size, exceptional length, and a great fearless tackler.
    The #2 overall college defense and defensive coordinator put this kid on an island against every #1 receiver of every team they faced, and in 426 coverage snaps in 15 games, he only gave up 23 receptions and 3 TD’s, 2 of which were in one game against J’Marr Chase.
    And you think this guy is a “project”??
    LOL, dude you are really bad at this and should stop posting.
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    Beef got a reaction from duckhoa in ‘The Blanket’ - Isaiah Oliver   
    Oliver needs to drastically improve or we'll be drafting another CB next draft.
    65 completions on 98 targets (66%), 527 air yards and 381 yards after catch given up, and 5 TD's and 7 missed tackles on those 65 comps, overall 113 QBR allowed.
    That's bad.  Real bad.
    And Sheffield wasn't any better.
    41 completions on 55 targets (75% YIKES!), 213 air yards and 232 yards after catch given up, and 2 TD's and 5 missed tackles on those 41 comps, overall 110 QBR allowed.
    No wonder we were bottom in the league in pass coverage.
     
    ETA:  And here's Trufant for reference.  He wasn't any better either.
    25 completions on 38 targets (66%), 299 air yards and 143 yards after catch given up, and 4 TD's and 4 missed tackles on those 25 comps, overall 101 QBR.
    All terrible.
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    Beef got a reaction from ya_boi_j in AJ Terrell film breakdown (19:00 minutes)   
    A project??  WTF??
    The kid has arguably the best overall technique of any CB in the draft. Even Deion Sanders acknowledges this.  Silky-smooth feet and hips, turns his head, superb mirror speed and closing speed, body control, size, exceptional length, and a great fearless tackler.
    The #2 overall college defense and defensive coordinator put this kid on an island against every #1 receiver of every team they faced, and in 426 coverage snaps in 15 games, he only gave up 23 receptions and 3 TD’s, 2 of which were in one game against J’Marr Chase.
    And you think this guy is a “project”??
    LOL, dude you are really bad at this and should stop posting.
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    Beef got a reaction from bleedblackandred in AJ Terrell film breakdown (19:00 minutes)   
    A project??  WTF??
    The kid has arguably the best overall technique of any CB in the draft. Even Deion Sanders acknowledges this.  Silky-smooth feet and hips, turns his head, superb mirror speed and closing speed, body control, size, exceptional length, and a great fearless tackler.
    The #2 overall college defense and defensive coordinator put this kid on an island against every #1 receiver of every team they faced, and in 426 coverage snaps in 15 games, he only gave up 23 receptions and 3 TD’s, 2 of which were in one game against J’Marr Chase.
    And you think this guy is a “project”??
    LOL, dude you are really bad at this and should stop posting.
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    Beef reacted to OrthoPTSD in Thirty thoughts on the Falcons’ roster now that the NFL Draft is over   
    More information then DLed gives entire year.
     
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    Beef reacted to Goober Pyle in Thirty thoughts on the Falcons’ roster now that the NFL Draft is over   
    https://theathletic.com/1778262/2020/04/27/thirty-thoughts-on-the-falcons-roster-now-that-the-nfl-draft-is-over/
     
    Now that the NFL Draft has come and gone, here are 30 thoughts about the Falcons’ roster:
    1. Out are Vic Beasley, Adrian Clayborn and Jack Crawford. In are Dante Fowler and Marlon Davidson. It will be a slightly new-look defensive front for the Falcons this season, with the hope that Fowler can add a consistent pass-rushing presence. Fowler recorded 11.5 sacks for the Los Angeles Rams in 2019 and previously played for head coach Dan Quinn during his first year at Florida. The two new additions will be critical in trying to add pressure while producing more sacks. In addition, it will be interesting to see how Takk McKinley responds to having Fowler on the opposite side of the formation.
    2. Considering that Davidson was a second-round selection at a position of need, he will get every opportunity to start. The plan is for Davidson primarily to play the nickel defensive tackle role to provide a pass rush up the middle. In that situation, Grady Jarrett would play nose tackle. Of course, Tyeler Davison still will be the primary nose tackle when the Falcons are lining up to defend the run. If Atlanta sticks to the original plan, John Cominsky should start to see some defensive tackle reps, too.
    3. With the Falcons addressing cornerback and the trenches with the first three picks, it’s clear that Quinn was telling the truth about Foye Oluokun being a starting linebacker during one of his pre-draft conference calls. Last year, the Falcons asked De’Vondre Campbell to do a lot at linebacker — he covered tight ends, rushed the passer and dropped back as a deep safety. Oluokun actually played safety in college at Yale, so now it looks to be his time to shine in this particular position.
    4. While Oluokun figures get the first crack at starting, Mykal Walker, one of Atlanta’s two fourth-rounders, will do his best to vie for a rotational role. Atlanta’s selection of Walker is eerily similar to when it took Campbell four years ago. Campbell was taken with the 115th pick of the fourth round. Walker was selected at pick No. 119, and they have similar builds and athleticism. Both were taken when there was an obvious need at the position. Both are versatile linebackers who can play multiple positions. One thing that stands out about Walker is how instinctive he is on the field. He may not be the plug-and-play starter Campbell was, but Walker could earn some playing time earlier than expected.
    5. The Falcons entered the offseason with only Oluokun, Deion Jones and Ahmad Thomas at linebacker. Since then, they have added LaRoy Reynolds and Edmond Robinson before drafting Walker. Jones, Oluokun and Walker seemingly are locks to make the 53-man roster. Last year, the Falcons began the season with four linebackers. If the same holds true for 2020, there will be a competition among Reynolds, Robinson and Thomas for the final linebacker spot.
    6. First-rounder A.J. Terrell will start at one of the outside cornerback spots. If last season is an indicator, Kendall Sheffield can be expected to start as the other outside cornerback in the base package. In nickel, Isaiah Oliver may continue to play one of the outside corner spots with Sheffield moving inside to nickel. Blidi Wreh-Wilson once again will be the steady reserve he has become known for.
    7. With Sheffield ending the 2019 season as a nickel cornerback, Damontae Kazee will stick to being a safety. But if Sheffield is the first option at nickel, and if Keanu Neal is healthy enough to resume his strong safety spot, who will start at free safety? That job seemingly would go to Ricardo Allen, the smartest player and a team leader on defense. Could Kazee then go back to a backup role? Or could the Falcons play more in a dime defense? Or could the nickel defense actually feature Allen as the slot corner with Sheffield playing primarily outside? It’s possible that Atlanta’s nickel defense, or a variation of it, could feature three safeties and two corners instead of two safeties and three corners.
    8. Neal and Kazee are free agents after the 2020 season, which made safety a position the Falcons felt the need to target in the draft. Jaylinn Hawkins, the second of two fourth-round picks selected, has a little bit of both Neal and Kazee in his game. He’s big and can play down in the box like Neal. He also had 10 interceptions in his college career at California, with six coming as a junior in 2018. This season figures to be a developmental year for Hawkins, and if Atlanta doesn’t keep Neal and Kazee in 2021, the ensuing offseason could decide whether he’s a starter.
    9. Of all the smokescreens involving Atlanta, the one indicating interest in drafting a quarterback was the biggest.
    10. Matt Ryan will start at quarterback for the 13th consecutive season. But the preseason will be interesting as it pertains to his backup. Matt Schaub, who played well in his lone 2019 start against the Seattle Seahawks, is set to make $2 million as the No. 2 QB on the roster. But Kurt Benkert and Danny Etling have the tools to push Schaub for the spot.
    11. The Falcons decided they were good enough at running back and didn’t feel the need to draft anyone at the position. Todd Gurley will be the team’s starter but probably won’t see the number of touches he saw with the Rams back in 2017 and 2018. One of the best camp competitions will be at No. 2 running back between Brian Hill and Ito Smith, seeing that the second running back will still see plenty of snaps. Qadree Ollison will be looking for a big jump too.
    12. Last year, people wondered if the Falcons would even carry a fullback. After signing Keith Smith to a three-year deal, that’s not a question this offseason.
    13. In what was considered a historic class at wide receiver, the Falcons elected to pass on the position in the draft. Like running back, they must feel good about who they already have.
    14. Atlanta did add Laquon Treadwell, a former first-round pick, to the roster during free agency. But he is not expected to be in the top three of the receiver rotation, at least for now. His addition is more in line with replacing Justin Hardy. Treadwell is expected to be a No. 4 receiver who can add value on special teams coverage.
    15. Of the receivers on Atlanta’s roster, the biggest winner is Russell Gage. After how he finished the 2019 season, he’s expected to remain the No. 3 receiver.
    16. The Falcons drafted six players but added seven with the draft picks they had prior to the start of free agency. They traded second- and fifth-round picks to the Baltimore Ravens for Hayden Hurst and a fourth-round selection. The second-rounder can be attributed to Hurst while the original fifth-rounder moved up a round.
    17. The second-rounder Atlanta traded was the 55th overall pick. With that slot, the Ravens took Ohio State running back J.K. Dobbins. Again, Atlanta’s faith in its existing running backs and the need for a tight end won out over adding to the backfield.
    18. Behind Hurst, the Falcons will have a competition to monitor closely. Jaeden Graham is the only returning tight end on the roster and figures to be the lead candidate to be Hurst’s backup. Khari Lee and Carson Meier will compete for a blocking tight end spot. And then there’s undrafted free agent tight end Jared Pinkney, who a lot of analysts expected to be selected during the past weekend. Pinkney’s best year at Vanderbilt came in 2018 when he recorded 50 catches for 774 yards and seven touchdowns.
    19. Whenever football activities resume, left guard will involve the most crowded competition. Four players — James Carpenter, Jamon Brown, Matt Gono and rookie draft pick Matt Hennessy — will all hope to end the preseason as the starter. Quinn said Hennessy will have a good chance of winning the job.
    20. Gono’s offseason is an important one. He began his pro career at tackle in 2018 before seeing some practice reps at guard late in the year. He opened the preseason at guard last year before moving back to tackle. Yet by the end of the year, Gono was back at guard again. Jake Matthews, Alex Mack, Chris Lindstrom and Kaleb McGary are entrenched in their positions. Does Gono also compete with John Wetzel as the swing tackle? Or does Gono stay at guard?
    21. The Falcons were strategic with the lone offensive player they took in this year’s draft. As expected, they selected a center who has the versatility to play guard immediately. Hennessy’s long-term future is obviously at center. But with Mack under contract for one more season, Hennessy will start out at left guard. Hennessy was the second center selected in this year’s draft, behind only Michigan’s Cesar Ruiz (New Orleans Saints).
    22. If Hennessy, 22 years old, wins the starting job at left guard, the Falcons will have an average age of 26.2 on the offensive line. The other projected starters’ are Matthews (28), Mack (33), Lindstrom (23) and McGary (25). This shows the effort Atlanta has made to scale younger up front the past two offseasons. The average age of the offensive line going into the first week of the 2019 season was 27. In 2018, it was 29.8.
    23. With Atlanta deciding to not retain Matt Bosher, the Falcons added punter Sterling Hofrichter in the seventh round. While Ryan Allen finished the 2019 season as the team’s punter, he isn’t a long-term option for the franchise. Hofrichter’s hang time is attractive to this coaching staff, which holds a special teams philosophy in limiting the number of overall returns.
    24. Right after the 2019 season ended, Quinn said the team would add competition for place-kicker Younghoe Koo. That hasn’t happened yet, although that remains the expectation.
    25. Quinn said receiver Brandon Powell is the leading candidate to be the team’s return specialist. Undrafted free agent defensive back Tyler Hall returned kicks at Wyoming, which could create an avenue for him to make the 53-man roster.
    26. In addition to Pinkney and Hall, an undrafted free agent signee to keep an eye on is Buffalo offensive tackle Evin Ksiezarczyk. Ksiezarczyk, at 6-foot-6 and 310 pounds, was the Bulls’ left tackle who helped lead one of college football’s best rushing attacks. Buffalo finished 10th in the nation and first in the MAC in rushing with 250.5 yards on the ground per game.
    27. If Atlanta’s offense has a sleeper, it would have to be Gage. Gage will begin the 2020 season as the top slot option, with skill position players Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Hurst and Gurley working around him. Gage, by default, should find himself open or in single coverage more often than most.
    28. On defense, Atlanta’s sleeper is Steven Means. It doesn’t appear the public has taken notice of Means, even if he’s someone Quinn and defensive ends coach Tosh Lupoi have recently raved about. Starting the final three games of the 2018 season, Means recorded seven tackles and a sack off the edge. Returning from an Achilles tear he suffered last offseason, Quinn believes Means will be a significant contributor in 2020.
    29. Of last year’s rookies, McGary should see the biggest jump from Year 1 to Year 2. McGary showed off his strength as a run blocker but obviously underwent a learning curve as a pass protector. His play improved in the final quarter of the season, which should be a trend that continues in 2020.
    30. That stated, barring a sudden change in events during the next two months, the NFL is not expected to have any on-site offseason work until training camp. And even then, no one truly knows if or when that will take place. This lack of offseason work figures to put all rookies across the league at a disadvantage.
     
     
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    Beef got a reaction from gazoo in At the risk of being banned...   
    Yep.  I'm just trying to give people hope that there will be a football season, and supporting why I think that with real data.
    I don't understand why anyone would shoot that down without even looking at that data and making their own conclusions.
    Do they really not want a football season?
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    Beef reacted to gazoo in At the risk of being banned...   
    The conversation in the country will soon turn to the fact that the virus is nowhere near as dangerous to people who are not in the high risk category as it was made out to be.
    we know the high risk categories. The flu as far deadlier to kids and young adults than the CV. Most have no symptoms or light symptoms. There is no reason to keep low risk people in mock down, let the thing run its course, while protecting high risk groups
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    Beef got a reaction from A Dog Named Brian in At the risk of being banned...   
    Yeah I was kind of floored when I looked into flu numbers and saw that year over year comparison chart for New York.
    Also, I'm 1000% sure my wife had CV-19 from late November to late January.  She's a nurse at Kennestone Hospital, and her, and about two-dozen other nurses, PA's, and doctors she works with, coughed for nearly 10 straight weeks during that period.
    Like violently coughing, to the point it was making her puke and dry-heave constantly.  All day, every day for ~10 weeks.
    I got it for about a week and my kids got it for about 2 weeks around Christmas.  But my wife has nasty asthma, so it hit her harder.
    We all thought it was the flu.  Minor random fevers for a day or two, but nothing serious.  Just a bad cough for a week or so.  But my wife's cough was insane.  She tried everything to fight it.  Humidifier, Abreo inhaler (this chalky white crap, she still takes this now, trying to ween off it though), steroids, antibiotics, multiple different inhalers, nothing worked.  Finally, after about 9 weeks, it just slowed down and eventually went away.
    But I'm certain she has damaged her lungs and larynx.  Her voice is noticeably scratchy still and she has to constantly run a humidifier at night or she wakes up with her throat dry and burning.
    We had no idea what she had until suddenly CV-19 became a thing.  It all made sense after that, except for the fact they were trying to say it was new in January.
     
    This thing was definitely here before January, and I suspect tens of millions of people had it and recovered from it already.  And that data I found from NYS regarding flu tracking solidified it for me.
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    Beef got a reaction from FalconFanSince1969 in At the risk of being banned...   
    No, this is flu cases in New York State per their health department.  Link
    Go back one page and read my analysis of what you're looking at.
    Just be open-minded and apply some quite simple logical deduction.
    Understand that 2017-18 was supposedly the worst flu season in 50 years, and this year we blew it away by +34% margin.
    Which is completely unreasonable.  This means that we just had THE WORST flu season since the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.
    From October 1 to Feb. 28th, the state of New York had 157,000 reported flu cases.  2017-18 was 117,000 during that period.  The normal flu season in NYS is around 70,000-85,000.
    So that's a +34% increase over the worst flu season in 50 years, and a +85% increase over the typical flu season.
    It just seems absurdly improbable that we SUPPOSEDLY just had the worst flu season since the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918, and then that flu season came to a screeching halt the instant CV-19 test kits were rolled out at the beginning of March.
    Don't ya think?
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    Beef got a reaction from gazoo in At the risk of being banned...   
    Yeah I was kind of floored when I looked into flu numbers and saw that year over year comparison chart for New York.
    Also, I'm 1000% sure my wife had CV-19 from late November to late January.  She's a nurse at Kennestone Hospital, and her, and about two-dozen other nurses, PA's, and doctors she works with, coughed for nearly 10 straight weeks during that period.
    Like violently coughing, to the point it was making her puke and dry-heave constantly.  All day, every day for ~10 weeks.
    I got it for about a week and my kids got it for about 2 weeks around Christmas.  But my wife has nasty asthma, so it hit her harder.
    We all thought it was the flu.  Minor random fevers for a day or two, but nothing serious.  Just a bad cough for a week or so.  But my wife's cough was insane.  She tried everything to fight it.  Humidifier, Abreo inhaler (this chalky white crap, she still takes this now, trying to ween off it though), steroids, antibiotics, multiple different inhalers, nothing worked.  Finally, after about 9 weeks, it just slowed down and eventually went away.
    But I'm certain she has damaged her lungs and larynx.  Her voice is noticeably scratchy still and she has to constantly run a humidifier at night or she wakes up with her throat dry and burning.
    We had no idea what she had until suddenly CV-19 became a thing.  It all made sense after that, except for the fact they were trying to say it was new in January.
     
    This thing was definitely here before January, and I suspect tens of millions of people had it and recovered from it already.  And that data I found from NYS regarding flu tracking solidified it for me.
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    Beef reacted to athell in At the risk of being banned...   
    This is good **** Beef
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    Beef got a reaction from gazoo in At the risk of being banned...   
    Again, we already had both at the same time.  There's no other explanation for this:
     

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    Beef reacted to gazoo in At the risk of being banned...   
    And we will be ready for it this time with treatments that dramatically lower the surge and mortality rate. We already have great case studies of success after the first wave. 
    So while we may see a surge in reinfextions to some degree, it won’t correlate to a surge in hospitalizations and death. 
     
    the media is invested in everyone being terrified. I dig far deeper to do my own research. Our media is horrible and I’ll leave it at that
     
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    Beef got a reaction from athell in At the risk of being banned...   
    Yeah I was kind of floored when I looked into flu numbers and saw that year over year comparison chart for New York.
    Also, I'm 1000% sure my wife had CV-19 from late November to late January.  She's a nurse at Kennestone Hospital, and her, and about two-dozen other nurses, PA's, and doctors she works with, coughed for nearly 10 straight weeks during that period.
    Like violently coughing, to the point it was making her puke and dry-heave constantly.  All day, every day for ~10 weeks.
    I got it for about a week and my kids got it for about 2 weeks around Christmas.  But my wife has nasty asthma, so it hit her harder.
    We all thought it was the flu.  Minor random fevers for a day or two, but nothing serious.  Just a bad cough for a week or so.  But my wife's cough was insane.  She tried everything to fight it.  Humidifier, Abreo inhaler (this chalky white crap, she still takes this now, trying to ween off it though), steroids, antibiotics, multiple different inhalers, nothing worked.  Finally, after about 9 weeks, it just slowed down and eventually went away.
    But I'm certain she has damaged her lungs and larynx.  Her voice is noticeably scratchy still and she has to constantly run a humidifier at night or she wakes up with her throat dry and burning.
    We had no idea what she had until suddenly CV-19 became a thing.  It all made sense after that, except for the fact they were trying to say it was new in January.
     
    This thing was definitely here before January, and I suspect tens of millions of people had it and recovered from it already.  And that data I found from NYS regarding flu tracking solidified it for me.
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    Beef got a reaction from DogIsYourName in At the risk of being banned...   
    Yeah I was kind of floored when I looked into flu numbers and saw that year over year comparison chart for New York.
    Also, I'm 1000% sure my wife had CV-19 from late November to late January.  She's a nurse at Kennestone Hospital, and her, and about two-dozen other nurses, PA's, and doctors she works with, coughed for nearly 10 straight weeks during that period.
    Like violently coughing, to the point it was making her puke and dry-heave constantly.  All day, every day for ~10 weeks.
    I got it for about a week and my kids got it for about 2 weeks around Christmas.  But my wife has nasty asthma, so it hit her harder.
    We all thought it was the flu.  Minor random fevers for a day or two, but nothing serious.  Just a bad cough for a week or so.  But my wife's cough was insane.  She tried everything to fight it.  Humidifier, Abreo inhaler (this chalky white crap, she still takes this now, trying to ween off it though), steroids, antibiotics, multiple different inhalers, nothing worked.  Finally, after about 9 weeks, it just slowed down and eventually went away.
    But I'm certain she has damaged her lungs and larynx.  Her voice is noticeably scratchy still and she has to constantly run a humidifier at night or she wakes up with her throat dry and burning.
    We had no idea what she had until suddenly CV-19 became a thing.  It all made sense after that, except for the fact they were trying to say it was new in January.
     
    This thing was definitely here before January, and I suspect tens of millions of people had it and recovered from it already.  And that data I found from NYS regarding flu tracking solidified it for me.
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    Beef got a reaction from DogIsYourName in At the risk of being banned...   
    Well, considering most of this country probably already has herd immunity and antibodies, since what we had in March was likely already the second wave of this virus, I think we'll figure out that re-opening things in phases, and just being smart about doing it slower in bigger cities like NYC, is going to workout fine.
     
    Here is the flu tracker for NY State from October through first couple weeks of March.  NYS Heath Dept. official Flu Tracker

     
    The 2017-18 flu season was credited as the worst flu season in 50 years, but supposedly 2019-20 just blew it away by a +34% margin, making this flu season the worst since the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.
    Think about that and look at those numbers.
    Weeks 40-46, there were nearly double the normal flu cases.  Weeks 47-2 there were nearly triple the normal amount of flu cases.  Weeks 3-6 it's back to double with a slow curtailing off.
    And then suddenly, almost the instant that CV-19 test kits get rolled out at the beginning of March, the number of flu cases plummets to around 5% of their normal weekly amount... in supposedly the worst flu season since 1918.
     
    Conclusion?
    CV-19 was here already as far back as October 2019, and people were going to the hospital with both the flu AND CV-19.  But they weren't getting tested for CV-19 because it wasn't a thing back then.
    The CDC estimates that 60+ million people a year get the flu, but the VAST majority of them are asymptomatic and don't get sick.  Most of us could go to the hospital right now and very likely test positive for one or more flu strains currently in our body.  But we have antibodies to them so they don't make us sick.
    But, droves of people, WAY above the norm, were going to the hospital between November and February and testing positive for the flu.  More so than any time in the last 100 years.
    Again, think about that.
    In the year where we end up with a new virus pandemic, we also have the worst flu season in 100 years?  And then almost the instant we begin testing for that new virus, the worst flu season in 100 years nearly vanishes?
    How is that reasonable?
     
    Is this not a huge indicator that people who would normally have been asymptomatic with the flu were going to the hospital with symptomatic CV-19, but being diagnosed with the flu because they weren't aware of or testing for CV-19?
     
     
    So, IF this is actually true, and CV-19 already hit this country hard, and when we thought we were having a bad flu season we were really just having both a mild flu season and the introduction of CV-19 at the same time, then this would mean what happened in March was already the "second wave" of CV-19, and it's quite possible much of the country already has herd immunity and antibodies.
    And if that turns out to be true, then this means re-opening things back up, especially in slow and coordinated phases, might result in a much smaller "spike" than is expected.
    And if that's the case, then it's very likely we would have a football season.
    I'm hoping this is the case.
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    Beef got a reaction from Cheyakita in At the risk of being banned...   
    Well, considering most of this country probably already has herd immunity and antibodies, since what we had in March was likely already the second wave of this virus, I think we'll figure out that re-opening things in phases, and just being smart about doing it slower in bigger cities like NYC, is going to workout fine.
     
    Here is the flu tracker for NY State from October through first couple weeks of March.  NYS Heath Dept. official Flu Tracker

     
    The 2017-18 flu season was credited as the worst flu season in 50 years, but supposedly 2019-20 just blew it away by a +34% margin, making this flu season the worst since the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.
    Think about that and look at those numbers.
    Weeks 40-46, there were nearly double the normal flu cases.  Weeks 47-2 there were nearly triple the normal amount of flu cases.  Weeks 3-6 it's back to double with a slow curtailing off.
    And then suddenly, almost the instant that CV-19 test kits get rolled out at the beginning of March, the number of flu cases plummets to around 5% of their normal weekly amount... in supposedly the worst flu season since 1918.
     
    Conclusion?
    CV-19 was here already as far back as October 2019, and people were going to the hospital with both the flu AND CV-19.  But they weren't getting tested for CV-19 because it wasn't a thing back then.
    The CDC estimates that 60+ million people a year get the flu, but the VAST majority of them are asymptomatic and don't get sick.  Most of us could go to the hospital right now and very likely test positive for one or more flu strains currently in our body.  But we have antibodies to them so they don't make us sick.
    But, droves of people, WAY above the norm, were going to the hospital between November and February and testing positive for the flu.  More so than any time in the last 100 years.
    Again, think about that.
    In the year where we end up with a new virus pandemic, we also have the worst flu season in 100 years?  And then almost the instant we begin testing for that new virus, the worst flu season in 100 years nearly vanishes?
    How is that reasonable?
     
    Is this not a huge indicator that people who would normally have been asymptomatic with the flu were going to the hospital with symptomatic CV-19, but being diagnosed with the flu because they weren't aware of or testing for CV-19?
     
     
    So, IF this is actually true, and CV-19 already hit this country hard, and when we thought we were having a bad flu season we were really just having both a mild flu season and the introduction of CV-19 at the same time, then this would mean what happened in March was already the "second wave" of CV-19, and it's quite possible much of the country already has herd immunity and antibodies.
    And if that turns out to be true, then this means re-opening things back up, especially in slow and coordinated phases, might result in a much smaller "spike" than is expected.
    And if that's the case, then it's very likely we would have a football season.
    I'm hoping this is the case.
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    Beef got a reaction from athell in At the risk of being banned...   
    Well, considering most of this country probably already has herd immunity and antibodies, since what we had in March was likely already the second wave of this virus, I think we'll figure out that re-opening things in phases, and just being smart about doing it slower in bigger cities like NYC, is going to workout fine.
     
    Here is the flu tracker for NY State from October through first couple weeks of March.  NYS Heath Dept. official Flu Tracker

     
    The 2017-18 flu season was credited as the worst flu season in 50 years, but supposedly 2019-20 just blew it away by a +34% margin, making this flu season the worst since the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.
    Think about that and look at those numbers.
    Weeks 40-46, there were nearly double the normal flu cases.  Weeks 47-2 there were nearly triple the normal amount of flu cases.  Weeks 3-6 it's back to double with a slow curtailing off.
    And then suddenly, almost the instant that CV-19 test kits get rolled out at the beginning of March, the number of flu cases plummets to around 5% of their normal weekly amount... in supposedly the worst flu season since 1918.
     
    Conclusion?
    CV-19 was here already as far back as October 2019, and people were going to the hospital with both the flu AND CV-19.  But they weren't getting tested for CV-19 because it wasn't a thing back then.
    The CDC estimates that 60+ million people a year get the flu, but the VAST majority of them are asymptomatic and don't get sick.  Most of us could go to the hospital right now and very likely test positive for one or more flu strains currently in our body.  But we have antibodies to them so they don't make us sick.
    But, droves of people, WAY above the norm, were going to the hospital between November and February and testing positive for the flu.  More so than any time in the last 100 years.
    Again, think about that.
    In the year where we end up with a new virus pandemic, we also have the worst flu season in 100 years?  And then almost the instant we begin testing for that new virus, the worst flu season in 100 years nearly vanishes?
    How is that reasonable?
     
    Is this not a huge indicator that people who would normally have been asymptomatic with the flu were going to the hospital with symptomatic CV-19, but being diagnosed with the flu because they weren't aware of or testing for CV-19?
     
     
    So, IF this is actually true, and CV-19 already hit this country hard, and when we thought we were having a bad flu season we were really just having both a mild flu season and the introduction of CV-19 at the same time, then this would mean what happened in March was already the "second wave" of CV-19, and it's quite possible much of the country already has herd immunity and antibodies.
    And if that turns out to be true, then this means re-opening things back up, especially in slow and coordinated phases, might result in a much smaller "spike" than is expected.
    And if that's the case, then it's very likely we would have a football season.
    I'm hoping this is the case.
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