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  1. 1 hour ago, 95Dawg said:

    Coach Warren relayed that one of the new DB's (believed to be Major Burns) sends him inspirational messages everyday-He said, "that's supposed to be my job"

    Yeah in the interview Shockley did with the EE's, Major said that he is the one who sends a motivational text to everyone every morning.  He said one of his coaches taught him to do it a few years back and he's been sending them to his entire team ever since.  And now he's collecting phone numbers and doing it at UGA too.

    Kid will be a team captain by the time he's a Junior.


  2. 1 minute ago, g-dawg said:

    I agree with Stokes as he had a good enough year in 2019 and should build upon it which should push him into at least a 2nd round selection.

    Campbell?  I dunno - his Freshman year was “meh” and he played good in 2019 but missed a lot of time.

    Campbell has elite size and speed, and he is going to have a stellar year if he stays healthy.  Kid was a 5* for a reason.  Even if he goes 2nd or 3rd day, he's likely gone because his family is pretty poor, is what I believe I've heard.


  3. Awesome stuff.

    Did you guys know that Ladd McConkey was taking college courses from a community college near his high school while he was a Junior and Senior and he already has his associates degree?  Kid has a 4.35 GPA, already has his college core curriculum DONE, and he is entering UGA already taking his 3000 level Finance degree classes on day one.  He will graduate with a Finance degree before he even finishes his sophomore year, and will have his Masters in Finance by the time he finished his Senior season.

    Combined with his insane athletic agility and speed, that's probably the most impressive thing I've ever heard about a scholar athlete... ever.


  4. 1 hour ago, RxDawg said:

    Unreal the amount of talent in that DB room, especially if we land Grimes and J. Williams 

    Williams, Grimes, Johnson, Daniel, plus probably Green or Hancock, and maybe even Collier.

    That would be the DB haul of all time.

    We're losing LeCounte, Daniel, Webb, Stokes, and Campbell after this season, so it's quite possible.

    Ringo, Stevenson, and Cine will be 2021 starters for sure.  Wilson, Chris Smith, Burns, Kimber, and Branch will round out the veteran depth.  But then 2022 would be thin AF (Ringo, Kimber, Burns, & Branch is about it) if we don't land at least 5 DB's in next class.

    So I suspect all those guys I mentioned will be licking their chops as they'd get 2-3 years of a ton of playtime.

    We could have 6+ 5*s in the 2021 class.  Maybe even upwards of 9 because of how many Georgia 5*'s there are that just happen to be need positions for us too.  DB, ILB, OLB, and DE especially.  There's potentially 6-7 5* just in those 4 positions.  Now add in BVG + Mims + at least 1 RB, and maybe even a WR.

    Plus probably an additional 3-4 4*'s in the top-50, and another 4-5 in the top-100.  We could quite possibly have 17-20 players from the top-100, of which 7-9 are likely from the top-32.  We may break 320 points and still have 3-4 more recruits to take.  Could be the highest rated recruiting class of all time.

    HOWEVER, we all know the ranking companies won't let that happen.  Bama will get their bumps while our players who commit early will get downgraded in the end.

     


  5. Knicks shooting like 60% and already have 20 rebounds in the first period.

    And it’s not like we’re not playing defense. The ball is just bouncing to them and they are making shots with hands in their face.

    It’s unreal how this consistently happens to us.


  6. Updating this from my earlier thread now that we have a completed/final 2020 recruiting class after NSD. On top of their star rankings I'm adding their year status as well.

    Again, this is all just fun speculation. I've surely made some mistakes and poor guesses, so let's have some discussion on what those might be. OL, for instance, is always a debate. None of us really has a clue who's playing where on the OL, but it's fun to discuss. And yes, I'm putting all the freshmen at/near the back of the depth chart until they prove they can beat out the vets. Enjoy!

     

    OFFENSE:

    QB: Newman(3*GT) | Beck(4*FR) | Mathis(4*RS/FR) | Bennett(3*JR) | Priestley(2*RS/FR) | Kirksey(3*TR/SO) | Muschamp(3*FR)

    RBS: White(5*RS/SO) | Edwards(4*FR)

    RBF: McIntosh(4*SO) | Milton(4*FR)

    RBC: Cook(4*JR)

    WRX: Pickins(5*SO) | Robinson(4*FR) | Bush(4*RS/SO) | Landers(3*JR)

    WRS: Jackson(4*RS/SO) | Burton(4*FR) | McConkey(3*FR)

    TE/HB: McKitty(3*GT) | Goede(4*RS/FR)

    RT: Salyer(5*JR) | Condon(3*RS/SO) | Ratledge(4*FR)

    RG: Shaffer(3*SR) | McClendon(4*RS/FR) | Blaske(3*FR) - if Shaffer is healthy

    C: Ericson(4*RS/SO) | Webb(5*RS/FR) | Van Pran(4*FR) | Kinnie(3*FR)

    LG: Hill(4*JR) | Webb(5*RS/FR) | Lindberg(4*FR) | Willock(3*FR)

    LT: Cleveland(4*SR) | Truss(4*RS/FR) | Jones(5*FR)

    TE/Y: Fitzpatrick(4*RS/SO) | Washington(5*FR) | Seither(3*RS/FR)

    WRY: Robertson(5*TR/SR) | A. Smith(4*FR)

    WRZ: Blaylock(4*SO) | Rosemy(4*FR) | Tongue(4*RS/FR) | Blount(4*JR) - if Blaylock is healthy

     

    DEFENSE:

    RCB: Campbell(5*JR) | Ringo(5*FR) | Speed(3*JR) | Branch(3*FR)

    S: Cine(4*SO) | Poole(4*JR) | Burns(4*FR)

    JACK: Ojulari(4*RS/SO) | N. Smith(5*SO) | Sherman(5*FR)

    WILL: Rice(4*SR) | Tindall(4*JR) | Marshall(4*SO)

    DE/DT: T. Walker(5*SO) | Wyatt(4*SR) | Logue(4*RS/FR) | Norton(4*RS/FR)

    NT: J. Davis(3*JR) | N. Johnson(4*JR) | Mitchell(3*RS/FR) | Stackhouse(4*FR)

    DE/DT: Herring(4*SR) | Rochester(4*SR) | J. Carter(5*FR) | Walthour(3*RS/SO) | Brinson(4*FR)

    MIKE: Dean(5*SO) | Q. Walker(4*JR) | R. Davis(4*RS/FR) | McBride(4*SR)

    SAM: Grant(4*SR) | Anderson(5*JR) | J. Johnson(4*SR) | Beal(4*JR)

    STAR: Stevenson(4*SO) | Webb(4*SR) | Wilson(4*RS/SO)

    S: LeCounte(5*SR) | C. Smith(4*JR) | Burns(4*FR)

    LCB: Stokes(3*JR) | Daniel(4*SR) | Brini(3*JR) | Kimber(4*FR)

     

    SPECIAL TEAMS:

    P: Camarda(3*JR) | Rubright(JR) | Chumley(RS/FR)

    K: Zirkel(3*FR) | Buce(JR) | Podlesny(RS/SO)

    LS: P. Walker(RS/SO) | Mote(RS/FR)

    H: Camarda(3*JR) | Bennett(3*JR)

    PR: K. Jackson(4*RS/SO) | McConkey(3*FR) | A. Smith (4*FR)

    KR: Cook(4*JR) | A. Smith(4*FR) | Burton(4*FR) | McConkey(3*FR)

     

    Note: I really have no idea what we do at LT. Truss or even Jones could start there, but my gut says Ben came back to play LT. Salyer played RT vs Baylor and was great. I really think he sticks at RT this season. Ericson played RG vs Baylor and did great, but Shaffer would have surely started there if he didn't have the neck injury. Trey really needs to move to LG. It's his normal position and he's had issues snapping and then executing his assignment. Clay does not want to play Center, he wants to play Guard, and I think he redshirted for this reason. Ericson was on the 2-deep at both guard and center, so it's likely either he or Trey. But SVP is a beast and could be playing Center before we know it.


  7. 19 minutes ago, 95Dawg said:

    Invited to Combine


    Blankenship

    Cager

    Fromm

    Herrien

    Kindley

    Reed

    Swift

    Thomas

    Wilson

    Woerner

    Wow, so the list of snubs are:

    Michael Barnett (he'll still get invited to a tryout)

    Michail Carter (same, he'll get invited to a tryout somewhere)

    Tyler Clark (WTF?? how is he not going to the combine??  He'll make some team's practice squad)

    Tae Crowder (such a shame, he deserves a shot. Hope he gets a tryout invite)

    D'Marcus Hayes

    David Marshall

    Tyrique McGhee

    Tyler Simmons (no surprise skillet-hands not invited)

    Justin Young


  8. 7 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    Great post...

    So if we have a top three picks, what is it worth in the trade market?

    No real clue.

    If we had the #1 pick, I'm 100% sure we'd take Wiseman and not even blink at outside offers.  Some teams probably don't value him as high as we do because they're already doing well at Center for a while, but I really can't imagine he doesn't go #1 unless something insane happens, like a team is really REALLY desperate for a PG or they actually think Edwards is the next coming of Dwayne Wade.

    What could we get for #2 or #3?

    Probably something between 5-10 this year, plus a top-5 protected 1st next year.  Just my guess.

    I think most teams understand Edwards and Ball are long to develop with super high ceilings that are way off from reaching.

     

    I honestly hope that if we're in the 6-10 range, we find someone to trade back with and we can somehow get 2 of the 4 guys I mentioned.  I'd LOVE to walk away with Carey at ~12 and Bey at ~19, or Jalen Smith at ~13 and Ramsey at ~20.  Something like that would be awesome, IMO.

    I'm tired of seeing Bembry on this team, and it's time for Vince to retire.  Bembry is a chaotic mess with the ball in his hands, and Vince is a shell of himself and liability in all facets except leadership and respect.  Unfortunately, leadership and respect doesn't equate to making shots and stopping opponents from making shots.  Love the guy, but it's cringeworthy watching him play anymore.  That 3 he made the other night was the first clutch thing he's done all season.


  9. 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    I’m not sure we need more youth on the roster. Like I said yesterday, who are we going to draft that will play ahead of Trae, Reddish, Hunter, Collins or Capella

    I agree, actually.  Huerter, too.

    I really only see one possible real immediate upgrade, and that would be Wiseman.

    Aside from that, Anthony Edwards would be a 3+ year project before he reaches any consistency.  Super high ceiling, but he's a long way off from getting near it, IMO.  LaMelo is the same issue, although I do really like his ability to facilitate.  He could be an 8-10 assist guy and around 18 points within a year at the very least.

    Is Jeff Teague a longterm depth solution?  When is his decline going to turn steep?  What's our backup to Teague if Trae gets a high ankle sprain and misses 10-15 games?  Reddish and Huerter?  Goodwin?  Really?  Who gets backup minutes at the 2 if/when Huerter goes down, which seems to be happening consistently?  Who's our 7th man shooter or 3-and-D guy off the bench?

    Aside from maybe Wiseman (which is very unlikely), the only rookies I wouldn't mind adding are 3-and-D guys, our potential future longterm Center, or that kid who is a John Collins clone.

    Tyler Bey or Vernon Carey Jr. would be perfect.  Bey is a much, MUCH better version of Bembry, and Carey could take over for Capella in 2-3 years and be a staple at Center for us for years afterwards.

    Jahmi'us Ramsey is the best 3-and-D guy in the draft and would be tremendous coming off the bench to spell the 2 or 3.  He's VERY similar to Reddish, but a better 3pt shooter at this particular moment.

    And Jalen Smith is John Collins as a rookie, and will be just as good in a few years as JC is now.  That too, would be really nice to have as depth and future value.

     

    I mean, we're going to pick someone this draft.  We're going to clearly add at least one rookie.  And we do have some questions marks with regards to depth at PG, SG, and defense in general.  And we'll have Center issues before too long.  Dedmon, Jones, and Skal are simply not longterm solutions to anything, just temporary solid depth.  So when taking that into consideration, we're actually pretty thin at the 4 and 5 after JC, Capella, and Fernando after another year or so.

    It would be nice to find a gem or two that we have Bird rights on and can solidify our defense and bench.

    I also suspect we'll be signing a max contract player after next season.  Hopefully Giannis.


  10. 1 minute ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    It’s not just one guy.  This is his current coach:

    “While the 69 points were the lowest scored by Illawarra on the season, it was the defense that drew the ire of head coach Matt Flinn. In a message he has repeated multiple times this season, Flinn criticized not only the team’s defensive effort but LaMelo Ball’s specifically.

    “It was really disappointing again, the slow start and giving up 27 in the first quarter. I really believed we turned a corner against Perth. But again you see the drive we were missing, we just didn’t execute at the defensive end.

    “[Ball] is a talented kid, he can get to the hole and he creates for other people. But again, we play at both ends of the floor, and at times, not just Melo, but we had multiple breakdowns defensively.”

    *Shrug* Again, I don't know how you have a near .1 DWS and over 23 PER and average 8 rebounds and 2 steals a game and be considered a defensive trainwreck.

    And, half the draft ranking sites out there have you as the #1 or #2 pick while you're only averaging 19 ppg in the international league.

    Maybe he's not an elite defender, but he's certainly not a "trainwreck" or even a liability.  He's just 18 years old and not close to reaching his potential yet.

    But again, it's all moot where we're concerned.  I doubt he'd be the target for us if we had any choice.


  11. 36 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    Trae lacks the size to be anything other than a C- defender...and Lamelo’s size make him unique on offense but it’s also his limitation on defense.  
     

    Those two in the backcourt is a bad pairing IMO.  Is Lamelo taking Cam’s spot in the lineup?  Do you like him more as a prospect?
     

    And why take the ball out of Trae’s hands.  Dude probably leads the NBA in assists the past 6 weeks.

    There's 96 minutes between the 1 and 2, and if Trae and Huerter each average ~30 minutes, that leaves ~36 minutes for others to fill those roles (96-60=36).  It would be nice to have a 1/2 combo guard who can facilitate, shoot, and defend either position with proficiency taking a large chunk of those other 36 or so minutes.  Especially if Huerter is having a bad night, or of course if anyone is injured.  Which seems to happen a lot, and then we have a big dropoff with whomever fills the void.

    Cam and Hunter are splitting 48 mins at the 3, and then a handful of minutes at the 2, while sometimes forcing Cam to run the point as well.

    I really hate that, and I think that's been contributing to Cam's inconsistent shooting.

     

    This is all moot anyways.  We're not going to pick LaMelo Ball unless we had the #3 pick and he was still there, which we very likely won't as we're clearly playing ourselves deeper in the lottery as we win more games.


  12. 47 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    “Right now, LaMelo Ball is a trainwreck defensivelyThere are reasons to be optimistic for his future defensive projection, but it will likely be a long time before LaMelo Ball will be even a neutral defender if he ever gets there.

    There is a real chance his engine issues never correct themselves and his defense fails him. Given the extent of his offensive goodness and the few positives he has on the defensive end, Ball’s traffic cone defense doesn’t sink his status as a prospect.

    Conclusion

    LaMelo Ball is not a new commodity. While he has faded out of the spotlight compared to the past years, Ball’s basketball ability has always been present. When we look at his 13-year-old freshman tape, the burgeoning star in LaMelo was evident. The off-dribble shooting was in its infancy:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/therookiewire.usatoday.com/2019/08/02/nba-draft-2020-class-lamelo-ball-prospect-nbl-illawarra-hawks-australia/amp/

    I don’t know. Sounds like you’re taking one guys analysis and assuming it’s correct.

    I don’t know how a PG can average 8 rebounds a game and be considered a defensive trainwreck.

    In the international league he’s playing in, he’s a .090 DWS and has a PER of 23.26.  Those are allstar levels.


  13. 14 minutes ago, Spts1 said:

    Georgia had another monster recruiting season.  This one should be their best.  We still looking for a running back...:(  Signed some good athletes but not a pure running back...

    Huh??

    Kendall Milton and Daijun Edwards arent pure RB’s??  What?

    The only reason Milton isn’t a 5* is because he committed way early, shut down his recruiting, and didn’t go to a single allstar game (turned them all down after being asked to attend every one of them).

    Recruiting sites don’t like you when you don’t help them generate clicks with storylines.  But mark it, Milton will be a first round draft pick in 3 years and another Todd Gurley in the NFL.

    And Edwards will be a better version of Elijah Holyfield for us.  Actually, a much better receiver, so will end up with more ap yards.


  14. 5 minutes ago, Ransack said:

    I'm not sure why you're quoting me on this. I've watched Ladd's tape and I know Monken's history with the position. My only comment has been in regards to tempering people's expectations about when to expect him to contribute based on his size. There's been no comments on anything else regarding him.

    Because you’re wrong on his size?

    Don’t say he’s 150 when he’s 175 and say there’s a size issue and not expect someone to correct you when you’re off by 25 lbs and size not being an issue.


  15. 26 minutes ago, 007dawg said:

    Zykievous Walker.   What happened with him?   Did we slowplay him in the hope that we would get Burch?   Hate to see him at the Barn.   They think he can be another Marlon Davidson for them.  

    Walker saw our depth at DE/JACK, knew he wouldn’t see the field for a while, and didn’t want to have to compete.

    We have a good haul coming in for 2021, so no worries.


  16. 12 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    Lamelo is a complete trainwreck defensively.  A backcourt of Trae & Ball would be an absolute nightmare on defense.  Cam is a better version of Ball and won’t take the ball out of Young’s hands

    Not sure how you came to this take on Ball.

    He’s a consistent 8 rebounds and 2 steals a game right now, while also dishing 8 assists.

    His perimeter shooting is where he struggles. He’s a way stronger defender than Trae, and most other PG’s too.  If he can improve his shooting, he’s going to be a perfect combo 1/2.  He’s only 18 and will grow tremendously with a couple years in the league.

    I’d take him spelling Trae and Huerter in a heartbeat. I hate the concept of Cam and Huerter having to be the point for 10 mins every game.  Get them on the wings concentrating on those duties and leave them there.


  17. 34 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

    I thought this was a 42 win team heading into the season.  Now we are finally together and significantly improved at Center.  I see no reason we re not .500 or better moving forward.  I would be highly critical if we aren’t.

    A top 6 rotation that includes Capella, Cam, Hunter & Collins is no longer a defensive nightmare 

    If Capella can step right in and consistently pull down 15 boards a night, and Cam and Hunter consistently shoot 40%, and Huerter, JC, and Trae stay healthy, then yes I think it’s possible we average .500 for the rest of the season.

    But that still isn’t going to get us even sniffing the 8th seed. 30-52 isn’t going to be close.  Orlando is already at 22 wins and winning .423 of their games.  The 8th seed will be around 41-45 wins.

    It’s a catch-22 for us. It’s going to be nice to get some wins, but we’re going to end up around pick 7-12, which is virtually a dead man’s territory with this crap lot of draft prospects this year.

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