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    Leon Troutsky reacted to AF89 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    They breaking down that Trae shimmy play hard and yelling at each other in the TNT studio
     
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to lostone in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Yes
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to AF89 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Professor verbos if the girl who fetches your Yoohoos is a commie it's my right to know!
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Carter in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    I mean, your main mistake was being up there in the first place.  
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to falconsd56 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    That makes alot of sense.
    I actually agree with keeping the filibuster but it can't continue to be weaponized like it has been for the last nearly 2 decades
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from falconsd56 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    This isn’t a bad proposal either…
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/03/02/manchin-filibuster-never-sinema/
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to WOR in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Excuse me sirs. This is a basketball thread.
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Big_Dog in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Every single Democratic lawmaker in the Arizona House refused to show up for legislative business on Tuesday, preventing their GOP colleagues from moving forward on a budget that includes a $1.7 billion tax cut that would mainly benefit the wealthy.
    ^^^I know this has a very long history, going back as far as Abraham Lincoln, but it’s a harmful practice that undermines democracy.  The GOP won the majority in the legislature and they should be able to pass their agenda.  If you don’t like how they’re governing, then vote against them in the next election and try to win more votes for your own party.  This kind of nonsense doesn’t belong in a functioning democracy.
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to Sturgil Simpson in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    I will be following @Sponge lead here on downvotes with WFW. Trifle if you dare boomer.
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to Sponge in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    FTR guys, wfw hasn't downvoted me yet since I gave him 250+ downvotes in retaliation. 
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from The Monarch in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    I mean, your main mistake was being up there in the first place.  
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from NightPain in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    I mean, your main mistake was being up there in the first place.  
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to lostone in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Also more projection from the GQP
     
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from falconsd56 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Mike Lindell’s latest stupidity should end well…
    “Then we’re bringing all the media. Maybe even Fox will show up! What a concept. And then we’re going to bring in all senators, governors—even the corrupt ones, Brian Kemp—and legislatures, secretary of states, and every single government official that wants to be there, because when we show them these packet captures, we’re gonna just give them out to all them cyber guys so they can have their own guy go, ‘How many votes were flipped here in Tampa?’ Here you go. Boom. It’s going to be a worldwide event. Millions are going to see it, and those Supreme Court justices are going to look at it then, and they’re going to go 9-0 that this country was attacked. The election is gonna come down. Donald Trump will be in office by this fall, for sure.”
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to Mr. Hoopah! in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    So there's two answers to this.  There's what it actually is, a theory of post-graduate study that began in the legal field and has spread to other areas beginning in the 1970's, and the boogie man wedge issue that the current republican party has made it into a catch-all phrase to encompass.
    As to the former, here's a definition from an article on the American Bar Association's website:
    "While recognizing the evolving and malleable nature of CRT, scholar Khiara Bridges outlines a few key tenets of CRT, including:
    Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality. Acknowledgement that racism is a normal feature of society and is embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality. This dismisses the idea that racist incidents are aberrations but instead are manifestations of structural and systemic racism. Rejection of popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy. CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality. Recognition of the relevance of people’s everyday lives to scholarship. This includes embracing the lived experiences of people of color, including those preserved through storytelling, and rejecting deficit-informed research that excludes the epistemologies of people of color." https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/civil-rights-reimagining-policing/a-lesson-on-critical-race-theory/
     
    As to the latter, Republicans have decried any attempt to talk about racism, especially the history of slavery, Jim Crow laws, the Civil Rights movement, being taught in K-12 as being part of Critical Race Theory.  It's a completely dishonest effort, actually CRT is really only taught in law schools or other post-undergrad settings.  It's not being taught to little Billy's 4th grade class in Stillwater, Oklahoma.
    Whether you agree with the theory or not (I admittedly had not heard of it until this year, if it was taught in my law school I didn't take that class, I tried to take as many classes on subjects that I knew would be on the bar exams as possible, I shied from the purely academic classes), it's being used in near total bad faith by the modern day conservative movement. 
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to GEORGIAfan in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Parker going in. 
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Downvote Don in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Alexander Hamilton on super majority requirements in Congress…
    But this is not all: what at first sight may seem a remedy, is, in reality, a poison. To give a minority a negative upon the majority (which is always the case where more than a majority is requisite to a decision), is, in its tendency, to subject the sense of the greater number to that of the lesser. Congress, from the nonattendance of a few States, have been frequently in the situation of a Polish diet, where a single VOTE has been sufficient to put a stop to all their movements. A sixtieth part of the Union, which is about the proportion of Delaware and Rhode Island, has several times been able to oppose an entire bar to its operations. This is one of those refinements which, in practice, has an effect the reverse of what is expected from it in theory. The necessity of unanimity in public bodies, or of something approaching towards it, has been founded upon a supposition that it would contribute to security. But its real operation is to embarrass the administration, to destroy the energy of the government, and to substitute the pleasure, caprice, or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junto, to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority. In those emergencies of a nation, in which the goodness or badness, the weakness or strength of its government, is of the greatest importance, there is commonly a necessity for action. The public business must, in some way or other, go forward. If a pertinacious minority can control the opinion of a majority, respecting the best mode of conducting it, the majority, in order that something may be done, must conform to the views of the minority; and thus the sense of the smaller number will overrule that of the greater, and give a tone to the national proceedings. Hence, tedious delays; continual negotiation and intrigue; contemptible compromises of the public good. And yet, in such a system, it is even happy when such compromises can take place: for upon some occasions things will not admit of accommodation; and then the measures of government must be injuriously suspended, or fatally defeated. It is often, by the impracticability of obtaining the concurrence of the necessary number of votes, kept in a state of inaction. Its situation must always savor of weakness, sometimes border upon anarchy.
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from falconsd56 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    People should also ask the filibuster defenders if they support ending the reconciliation process.  If the filibuster is this great tool of bipartisanship and we need minority party input to pass legislation then why have a mechanism that effectively bypasses the filibuster entirely?  
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Southern California Liar in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Also, if people would put aside their short-term party interests and think about how the government is supposed to function, there’s a very strong conservative case in favor of eliminating the filibuster.  
    One of the consequences of the filibuster is that it creates an incentive for growing executive power.  When the minority party can block the majority’s agenda, that creates enormous pressure on the president to address the problem in ways that bypass the dysfunctional Senate and an entrenched, polarized minority party that blocks everything.  So that increases pressure to use things like executive orders and other powers of the presidency.  The president can’t go up for reelection saying “well gosh, we tried to do these popular things but the other side just blocked us, but vote for us again.”  ( @Southern California Liar has made this point on the boards several times).  So like Obama did with DACA and some other things, you get patchwork governance via executive orders and recess appointments instead of a strong and functional legislature to guide policy-making.  
    The filibuster is actually creating the very thing that a ton of conservatives wring their hands about — increasing executive power.  It’s just that everybody is so focused on their short-term partisan benefits to think big picture and long-term.
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to Mr. Hoopah! in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    "AFP-AZ also announced a major campaign consisting of a six-figure ad and radio spend by AFP urging select senators, including Senator Kyrsten Sinema, to oppose efforts to eliminate the filibuster, as well as extensive grassroots engagement that include a nationwide event tour hosted by AFP. The ads lead to a webpage that allows Arizonans to directly contact lawmakers and learn more.
    Click here to view the event.
    Click here to view an example ad.
    AFP-AZ State Director Stephen Shadegg issued the following statement:
    https://americansforprosperity.org/icymi-afp-az-hosts-forum-on-filibuster/
    "Instead, to understand what happened in Wisconsin – and what is happening in states across the country – we need to look to the underappreciated organization that is at the center of the political network created and directed by the billionaire conservative industrialists, Charles and David Koch.
    David Koch speaks at a summit hosted by Americans for Prosperity in Columbus, Ohio. Photograph: Paul Vernon/AP We are a group of Columbia and Harvard-based researchers who for the past five years have been investigating precisely how the Koch brothers work to influence US politics and the role played by AFP. In recent years, AFP has quietly pushed behind the scenes for many of the most important conservative victories across the nation, including the anti-union bills that passed in former union strongholds such as Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio.
    AFP’s laser-like focus on anti-union legislation is in part driven by the Kochs’ libertarian embrace of free markets and limited government."
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/26/koch-brothers-americans-for-prosperity-rightwing-political-group
     
     
    When did this happen?  Sometime after 2014, when she spurned Koch donations: https://www.azcentral.com/story/dougmaceachern/2014/10/08/democrats-candidates-koch-barber-kirkpatrick/16923455/
    With the notable exception of the Kyrsten Sinema re-election campaign, the campaigns supporting nearly every major Democratic candidate for office in Arizona solicits contributions by evoking the wicked "billionaire Koch brothers."
     
    And it's not just the Koch brother who hasn't gone to HeIl yet, it's also the US Chamber of Commerce:
    "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said it is backing Democratic Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema with campaign contributions as a reward for their opposition to some of President Joe Biden's legislative initiatives and for trying to work with Republicans.
    In disclosures made public on Thursday, the Chamber said its political action committee during the first quarter made about $17,000 worth of contributions to the two senators and nine members of the House of Representatives." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-chamber-backs-manchin-sinema-with-campaign-contributions-2021-04-15/
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Downvote Don in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    It’s amazing the level of delusion people can have.  I understand where Manchin is coming from — he represents a Trump state and has to win lots of Republican voters.  I don’t like it and on the filibuster I think he’s making a dangerous calculation, but at least I understand it.
    I don’t get Sinema’s position whatsoever and I’m starting to give more credence to @Downvote Don’s idea that it’s not in good faith, though I have no idea what benefits she gets taking a position that’s so unpopular in her own state.  And if the GOP takes control of the Senate in 2022 (which looks unlikely at this point), can you imagine the outright rage and fury she’s going to face heading into her 2024 reelection?  
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    Leon Troutsky reacted to falconsd56 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Why is it only democrats that are naive enough to think that there can be bi partisanship on big ticket items that will be a w win for them?.... especially with McConnell openly endorsing the idea that essentially anything that the Democrats want..... he won't vote for.
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from falconsd56 in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Republicans are certainly trying to manipulate the elections to their favor at the state level, but I am a little dubious about what kind of impact it’ll actually have.  It’ll have some effect, but I think a lot of people are overstating how much of an effect it’ll have in practice.  I think gerrymandering will probably have a bigger impact in the next cycle in the House, at least.  
    The much bigger concern for me is what’s happening at the state level regarding election administration officials, people like Raffensburger having his authority taken away and given to the legislature and also facing primaries from Trump supporters.  Those officials were the only thing keeping the GOP from overthrowing the election and installing Trump as an authoritarian regime.  And Republicans are systematically moving to either restructure the power so Trump supporters can overturn the election next time and/or replacing officials who blocked the effort last year with hardcore Trump supporters.  
    One of the reasons that the GOP probably didn’t eliminate the filibuster last time they were in the majority is because they didn’t need to.  Most of their highest priorities like tax cuts (or repealing Obamacare) go through the reconciliation process anyway, so they can pass that stuff with their majority in the Senate.  Other things that can’t go through reconciliation probably aren’t high on their list of priorities and/or aren’t very popular.  So they focus on fiscal policies and judicial appointments, neither of which are subject to filibusters.  Then there are a few items like justice reform where they can easily get enough Dems on board to break a filibuster.  
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Downvote Don in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    Republicans are certainly trying to manipulate the elections to their favor at the state level, but I am a little dubious about what kind of impact it’ll actually have.  It’ll have some effect, but I think a lot of people are overstating how much of an effect it’ll have in practice.  I think gerrymandering will probably have a bigger impact in the next cycle in the House, at least.  
    The much bigger concern for me is what’s happening at the state level regarding election administration officials, people like Raffensburger having his authority taken away and given to the legislature and also facing primaries from Trump supporters.  Those officials were the only thing keeping the GOP from overthrowing the election and installing Trump as an authoritarian regime.  And Republicans are systematically moving to either restructure the power so Trump supporters can overturn the election next time and/or replacing officials who blocked the effort last year with hardcore Trump supporters.  
    One of the reasons that the GOP probably didn’t eliminate the filibuster last time they were in the majority is because they didn’t need to.  Most of their highest priorities like tax cuts (or repealing Obamacare) go through the reconciliation process anyway, so they can pass that stuff with their majority in the Senate.  Other things that can’t go through reconciliation probably aren’t high on their list of priorities and/or aren’t very popular.  So they focus on fiscal policies and judicial appointments, neither of which are subject to filibusters.  Then there are a few items like justice reform where they can easily get enough Dems on board to break a filibuster.  
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    Leon Troutsky got a reaction from Downvote Don in The Eastern Conference Finals Thread   
    ^^^Perhaps the best summary of her argument in that op-ed.  And the idea that the majority party doesn’t get to govern or enact its agenda when it wins an election is the opposite of democracy.  So Sinema’s argument that she’s saving democracy by supporting the filibuster is completely backwards.  
    As to her “what if the Republicans do this, this, or that when they win back the majority” stuff, yes that’s exactly what I want to happen.  The GOP should be able to enact its agenda if the voters choose them to govern and the voters can hold them accountable in the next election if they don’t like what the GOP is doing.  Again, that’s how democracy works.  
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