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Leon Troutsky

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  1. As I said, I’m not advocating anything. Just posting observations. I think understanding whether these protests fizzle out quickly when police/military crack down on them versus accomplishing something is going to depend on them uniting behind a few leaders and a specific set of goals or changes they want. That’s all I’m saying.
  2. I want to be VERY clear that I’m NOT advocating for anything specific in this post. I’m just posting some observations about what’s going on with the protests. I said last night that this feels like the Arab Spring to me in terms of its organization and scope. What is missing, however, is a very clear goal or list of demands. The April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt built the protests to a critical mass and then had a clear demand that Mubarak resign and other reforms involving the police. It was independent of any political party, although they did align with the Muslim Brotherhood during the protests. If the protestors or whomever is organizing them want to effect some kind of change and prevent this from fizzling out and overtaken by the next story, they need to have a clear set of leaders to speak on their behalf and they need to have a clear set of policy changes (or resignations of political leaders) to articulate and publicize. They have the attention of the public and the politicians. Now would be the time to translate that into specific goals or changes they want by uniting behind a specific set of goals or changes they want.
  3. According to CNN, Amy Klobuchar was not at all involved with the Derek Chauvin prosecution decision. i still would hate to see her as Biden’s veep pick, especially now, but I’m not convinced that she is the one who refused to prosecute Derek Chauvin in the shooting of the stabbing suspect.
  4. So what I’m hearing is that you love the filter now.
  5. I’m not saying that organization is a bad thing. Nor am I saying it’s some super centralized hierarchy. I’m simply saying that this type of widespread, large-scale protest doesn’t happen without massive organizing. Look at the April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt during the Arab Spring. This looks very similar to that, I think. Honestly, I only mention it because I find it extremely impressive, if that’s what is going on.
  6. I want to point out, shamelessly stealing an idea from @JDaveG, that I don’t see anyone on the right on these boards defending the police this time. And a lot of people who otherwise might be inclined to denounce the protests are saying, “yeah, I can’t condemn that because I can’t understand what it’s like to be black in America”. Lostone, I think, said this feels different. That’s part of it...there is no “other side” this time.
  7. Guys, the level of organization on social media and grassroots that it takes to pull off these types of large-scale simultaneous protests around a country the size of America is enormous. I don’t say this negatively against the protests, either. I’m just saying that there has been a massive level of organization behind the scenes to create protests this widespread and this large.
  8. Y’all hate on CNN all you like, but they are voicing the concerns and views of the protestors. They are debunking the right-wing narrative that it’s a bunch of black “thugs” and they are going out of their way to show the racial diversity of the protestors.
  9. This could be a huge overstatement, but there’s something about all of these protests — the organized nature of them, the tactics they are using, etc. — that actually reminds me of the Arab Spring.
  10. Hate to even think like this, but CNN’s ratings about to go through the roof.
  11. Is this the revolution that Achilles and Julian have been telling us about for years?
  12. Also, this was billed as a “press conference” but Trump didn’t take any questions, probably because he knew he was going to get asked about his “the shooting starts” tweets.
  13. So Trump’s announcement was all about China and Hong Kong. Not a word about George Floyd, at least not that I heard.
  14. Don’t think this is the full statement, but it’s the beginning of Biden’s statement about George Floyd:
  15. I can’t begin to speak for the African American community or victims of this kind of abuse, but a good first step is what you’re doing — understanding that the problem exists and acknowledging it openly. For too long certain groups would outright deny that there’s a problem or would engage in victim blaming. We can’t even begin to talk about solutions to the problem until we all recognize that there is a problem, that it’s long-standing, and that it’s systemic.
  16. Looks like it’s 3rd degree murder — does not include the intent to kill, but does include ignoring or overlooking a dangerous situation that would likely cause death (my paraphrasing, not legal jargon). Prosecutor also said more charges could be forthcoming.
  17. Joe Biden gave a very good address about the George Floyd situation and racism/police brutality in general.
  18. When I was living in Indonesia, there was some very bad flooding (like in Miami) in the city, especially near the coastline. This guy on a motorscooter was driving with water almost to his knees. He reached down, picked up a giant fish, and kept driving. It was **** impressive.
  19. That’s where I’m at with a lot of this. It’s too easy to sit in my quiet suburban neighborhood and pooh pooh these actions. I have to think about how I would react if I lived in that neighborhood and saw this kind of violence against people of color for decades with no justice, even when it’s caught on tape and involves the most nauseatingly cruel examples of police brutality that I’ve ever seen. I’d like to think that I wouldn’t chuck a rock at police, but not having lived with that terror and abuse for decades I’m not sure what I would do. It’s not my place to judge their actions in response to a situation I’ve never lived through.
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