ATLFalcons11

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  1. Do what is necessary and not an hindrance to get a good set of impactful players. I hate the idea that trading back means better players....no it means more chances, which isn’t necessarily all that people make it seem. Almost all of TD trade up have been great decisions. The only one that comes to mind that wasn’t was Sam Baker. Just get the best player available to you or in reach based on your scouting, scheme, etc.
  2. I didn’t give him an edge tho...
  3. The thing is....can their rookies and 2nd year players get better the next year like ours did? the only player that declined was Beasley and that was probably more circumstantial than anything. Can Lattimore, Crawley, Kamara, etc. get better or will they fall back with more tape or less “want to?”
  4. I’ll just repost what I said earlier about DQ and Payton...... “But there’s nothing about the past 3 seasons that puts Payton above Quinn. You’re taking into account his 11 years as a HC. That’s fine and dandy but be consistent. If 2016 (SB season) was Quinn’s first year as our HC and we were having this discussion in 2017, then I still wouldn’t put him above Payton but with 3 seasons under his belt I can start to move that line across a bit. For me I think they are a push right now. One or two more great seasons from Quinn tho and the needle has moved.”
  5. I actually never said he wasn’t. I said in an earlier post that Payton was better than Quinn but only slightly. I said if Quinn has one or two more seasons like the last two then he overtakes him. I just want the guy to be consistent. Can’t on one hand count one season as gold then on the other not count it when it works against you.
  6. I hate the Saints with a passion but I can be objective. No way is giving one year worth of success compared to consistency objective. You can get by with Lattimore because he had one of the greatest rookie seasons for a cornerback. Top notch. But Crawley bruh..... Then on the flip side count the 8 years before Quinn was a HC as a gain for Payton. Then say "coaches are coaches" as your reasoning. That's far from objective man.
  7. 100% what I was thinking. Lol
  8. Interesting....who is better Mark Ingram or Devonta Freeman?
  9. Wait so coaches don't get better (pick up) or worst (drop off)? Wow... That's your reasoning for not being consistent. So if Bill Walsh was alive and well you would take him out of retirement over Sean Payton? Coaches are coaches right? I've talked scheme. I've talked playing style. I've talked coverage rotation. Those are contextual facts to lean on. Not meaningless stats with no storyline behind. You know who else Ken Crawley had better stats then? Chris Harris and Patrick Peterson....yea anybody would take Ken Crawley over those two.
  10. I was asking about the past 3 seasons because that’s how long Quinn has been a HC. But it’s cool because you’re making my point. On one hand you’re putting Lattimore above Trufant and Alford because of one season. I can see Alford because he has been climbing and climbing but not Trufant. Not off of one season. But there’s nothing about the past 3 seasons that puts Payton above Quinn. You’re taking into account his 11 years as a HC. That’s fine and dandy but be consistent. If 2016 (SB season) was Quinn’s first year as our HC and we were having this discussion in 2017, then I still wouldn’t put him above Payton but with 3 seasons under his belt I can start to move that line across a bit. For me I think they are a push right now. One more great season from Quinn tho and the needle has moved. As far as Crawley, re-watch the games man. Lattimore was an Island. All respect goes to Lattimore. The games are the facts. Not an excuse. Tru nor Alf had that consistent luxury. And again, when Crawley shows some consistency then you can start to have a point. Also the center field and right field thing was a joke about Williams because he scratches Crawley’s back so often.
  11. What about the previous 3 seasons puts Payton ahead of Quinn? And actually aggressiveness lost us the SB, not being conservative
  12. @JD dirtybird21 @saints4life25 How do y’all feel about the coaching, specifically Quinn vs Payton?
  13. Based off of one year sure but I don’t think it’s as far off as it seems. Tru and Alf as a combo will be considered by most a better combo. You can put Alf or Tru against the #1 receiver and they will thrive consistently. You out Crawley there and it’s not the same person. It’s why Lattimore follows the 1. And we agree with the safeties
  14. Nah I watch every team. You probably just watch the Saints. Your stats need context. What’s the Saints Defensive scheme vs the Falcons? If you know that, then it’ll add more context to your stats.