ket222

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  1. I'm fine with our first pick although I wish we'd traded up before dolphins to get wilkins.  he would have helped us have a dominant def line with grady which would have helped our very thin CBs and our (to my mind) highly questionable DEs (esp beasley).  

    I just don't understand our second pick, given his very mediocre assessments, and why we had to move to the 1st round to get him.  so many better players to move up for, esp. on defense.  why not get one good OL with our first pick, then move up for a high quality defensive player in the late 1st / early second round?  

    couldn't we have given up our 3rd or even 2nd round pick and instead moved up in the first for a more elite player than either of our picks?


  2. thank you for not being too tough on me as I know some people are very tough on those who said we should tank--of course, I meant to do it in the more subtle way of not having key players like julio in the lineup (for fear of injury during meaningless games) rather than blank telling the team to stop trying!

    No, I can't provide examples of tanking teams succeeding, so you got me there.  

    However, I really think you are underplaying how many holes the team has.  This is esp. true with what was to me the biggest surprise last season of not being able to depend upon trufant or alford as in years past.  basically, we have to assume 'youngsters' can step in and play at a level that we played in our superbowl year.  do you really have faith in alford's replacement?  

    Also, we don't have a good pass rush from our DEs (esp Beastley), need another defensive lineman, need two VERY GOOD new offensive linemen, assume no more key injuries.,,,, do you see how many holes this is to fill with limited FA money?  

    another key factor if we had picked at 5 in the draft would obviously be we'd pick at the beginning of each round rather than midway through.  LIke I said, our first pick will be very good, but we may want a very good OFF lineman (lindstrom? sp?) who is at the top of the second round and can't get him.  

    trading back from the 5th pick would give us another second and third rounder in the early rounds for each.  we needed this for all the holes I've pointed out.  

     


  3. the ONLY way this team is super bowl ready is if we'd tanked the last three games of the season and picked at around the 5th pick.  I know many of you guys hate this way of thinking, but it's true.  we could have either picked up an ELITE player on the defense OR traded back and picked up another 2'nd, maybe 3rd pick for teams desperate for a QB. 

    because we lost alford and appear to have only enough money for ONE very good but probably not elite Free Agent (most likely, given the fact that our very good QB insisted on a very large contract while pretending he wants to win a championship--yes, the argument that he's taking up the same percentage of our FA money is a good one, but we still need extra money for FAs) ... there are just too many holes to fill. 

    We need STARTING high quality players for the following positions: cornerback, two offensive and two defensive linemen, ... not to mention getting more quality back ups.

    1) I don't doubt our first pick will be a good one given who is projected to be available at 14'th pick, but again we could have had an elite player

    2) trading back, we could have 2 second and maybe 3rd rounders ... we need those extra players to fill in the holes noted above.  as it is we need ALL of our 1-3 round players to be quality starters which is asking a lot to say the least. 

    At the beginning of last season, I remember arguing with friends that we were definitely going to the super bowl with all our talent.  I can live with the fact we had devastating injuries and that's a good excuse, but something "broke" in me about this team.  if anything, I think they will have less talent than a year ago (Beasley has been an incredible disappointment and I'm afraid we're going to lose Coleman who I really like and freeman will get injured inevitably)... again, just too many holes to fill without enough money. 

    sometimes the battle is lost before it's been fought.  Please don't hate me or get snarky because I have an opinion.  much of my cynicism comes from having been so excited and hurt year after year with this team.  If I didn't care, I wouldn't be here.  AND I'm more than happy to be proven wrong next season!


  4. Let's assume that we can only keep Julio and Grady with worst case scenario contracts - basically, not getting Grady for 10 million but more like 16 million; and getting Julio for a high end contract.  

    Will we be able to afford one of the big time free agents for the Offensive line?  or are we stuck with a couple mid level talent FAs?  

    I assume we can't keep coleman and alford since we have to pay so much for Julio and Grady?


  5. still a fan but one thing that's finally made me almost completely apathetic is choosing to win the last three meaningless games.  I'd be MUCH more excited for next year if we had a top 5 pick (for each round).  don't think we'll have much money for free agency and there are just too many holes  we really needed an incredible draft to replenish the team    just think it will be another better than average year


  6. the point of the super bowl--weren't the falcons given lots of inexplicable penalties near the end of the game?  or at least penalties that are generally overlooked by refs?

    if you go on youtube you can see plays that clearly looked rigged--one running back motions to a defensive player with his hand to let him in the end zone and the guy complies.  another where a female ref sees a fumble in a large scrum and immediately calls it for one team even though a guy on the other team holds up the ball ten yards away.  

    things may not be staged but at the least the refs may be choosing to call penalties more against one team than another

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  7. seems to me we concentrate on defense in this draft--may need cornerback to replace alford in addition to a Dt in first round and a DE.

    if we went this route would we have enough money in free agency to bring in 2-3 VERY good offensive linemen as our key free agents, or only enough money for one bigtime free agent?  will there be enough offensive linemen available to bring in?  basically are we screwed bc of the big contracts of ryan ("I want a super bowl more than anyone but make me the second best paid QB in the league") and future contract for julio, or will we have enough money to build an off line in free agency


  8. what has long bothered me far more than losing was how we've responded as a team since then.   with the SAME players that completely dominated the pats we've sucked ever since!!!  I've always blamed shanahan for being a complete dishonorable coward for not delaying looking for another coaching gig another year (he could have gotten a diff head coaching position later) and not deciding to return, actually win the next super bowl in the manner of Rocky 2, then ride off into the sunset.

    recently however someone told me that shanahan actually accepted the position in san fran before the super bowl (I'd forgotten that), so I guess I can't blame him ... so virtually the same players and the only difference being a new off coordinator, and here we sit ready for a top 5 draft pick!


  9. We seemed to have lacked our dominance in the running game most of the season until the most recent game (against a very good defense).  Why do you think we've suddenly looked so good, esp. with our injuries on the Oline?  Are we throwing more to our running backs (such as that great screen pass to Coleman)? 

    What was our problem before (it seemed only our pass game has been great all season), and will we likely remain as awesome running throughout the season?  This seemed to be the reason our offense was impossible to stop in 2016.  can we consistently do this against the elite teams? for instance, if we had to play the eagles again in the playoffs.

    I've always loved coleman--I suppose there's no way we can keep him next year? 


  10. so why did we take him as a top ten pick???  was Quinn (defensive guru) our coach at that point, I think that was the year Quinn became a falcon???  I know many top ten picks don't pan out, but it's incredibly depressing to think that neither he nor Matthews (our most recent top ten picks) have turned into dominant players.  they should be playing at a Julio level of domination. 

    it looks like we'll be picking top ten again or close to it.  just got to get it right this time.  what's so odd is our later picks have been so consistently great over the past few years, I remember being in awe that we picked ridley for our first round and thinking our GM has balls to make that pick which wasn't a need pick given Julio and our other receivers...

    it will be even more depressing if we have to go for a DE as our first pick since Beasley is less than stellar


  11. We're in the Bible belt.  we think it's our Christian duty to make other teams and cities feel good.

    I will say, I'd much prefer the heartbreak of almost getting there than just being mediocre forever like Cleveland, Detroit etc  even though new Orleans won a superbowl, I think our history since we drafted vick is at least more...exciting ... and frankly I hate brees and overdramatic cam newton (I guess I'd rather lose with the falcons than win with our rivals), I find our players much more likeable which is why all this is so disappointing


  12. I've been really critical of the falcons since the super bowl including ryan's ridiculous contract which could have been used for bringing on or keeping good players   also I'm still in disbelief about bringing on sark and losing our completely awesome and nearly record breaking offensive attack   the new Orleans game gave me hope however that maybe that offensive attack is almost back... and then of course the injuries came like an avalanche. 

    even if we trade Julio for two first round picks or more, there's no way i'd do it   we're just another decent team without him   he's dominant like no other offensive falcon has ever been or will be and make ryan much better than he really is (ridley won't replace him although he'll be good)

    also there's the psychological / branding aspect of Julio  he puts us on the map  honestly if we lost him, my already waning interest in our falcons would go down drastically--not bc i'm not a true fan but because I'd give up hoping we'll ever be dominant again...you'll say 'that's not being a true fan' but in fact it's almost like falling in love with a beautiful girl who keeps disappointing you and you just can't take it anymore. 

    got to keep Julio  he makes you believe at any moment he can break a game wide open

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  13. so how would it work if we signed teco to a big contract and let freeman go?  would we still have to pay freeman outrageous sums of money bc of the big contract?  Or if we traded him would another team pay all that money?  someone said above we'd get a third rounder for him? 

    basically how would we also give a large contract to teco?


  14. maybe a helpful question is: what was shanahan doing in the red zone to make us successful that sark isn't?  by the way, how successful was shanahan in the red zone?

    did you guys sense that at least sark has more dynamic plays than last year or is all the same?  if he was at least trying some different plays, I'd feel better and blame this mostly on ryan and the off. line (Ryan gets the jitters--I have faith he will be back to form and play well.  Much more concerned about the play calling at this point)  BTW, another question might be: what did shanahan do that allowed ryan to have more time to pass and not be panicked and make bad decisions? 

    I'm just trying to look at this objectively.  If people on this board have answers, the next question is why our off coordinator and even Quinn not see what people here see?