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  1. 1 hour ago, Knight of God said:

    Guys, don’t sleep on Carter. I was actually very high on signing or drafting in the 7th a couple years back. His coverage is inconsistently average, but he hits a ton and has that fire we’re missing. Let’s see what we can get out of him before we get too low. He’s not going to be worse than Ishmael who is a huge MB favorite.

    Thanks man. I don't know anything about him. It's he at least better than ish in coverage? I am scared of another career game for the titans tight end (delanie Walker? ). He is actually good.  Im tired of guys becoming household names and signing shoe deals after playing Atlanta. 

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  2. 2 hours ago, TheFatboi said:

    Your gonna get confused against teams you don’t play much or no much about. It’s not like the colts could stop us. We ran up and down the field on them. The hard count got the line 3 times. That’s not coaching that’s players. You’re on the road. That has an effect. You’re gonna get looks that don’t show on tape from a team you rarely play. All that and they still only lost 24-27 on the road to a good team. Are we supposed to go 16-0? I would love to but it’s just not possible. You have a defense that’s been tweaked so there’s gonna be issues there. You have a new coordinator so there’s gonna be issues there. You have a new OL so there’s gonna be issues there. We don’t have the privilege of being cohesive like the patriots where Brady has played in one system his entire career and BB has been the only HC he’s had. There’s gonna be some brain farts and hiccups. I hate it and I get frustrated like any of you but I also understand football is a chess match and not just line up and play. There had to be some cohesion for a team to be more consistent. Only thing I can say is give them time. This is Quinn’s 5th season and there’s been some kind of turnover each year except for 2015 and 16 and that resulted in a SB appearance. Since then Smith was fired and Manuel became DC. KS left and became the 49ers HC and Sark became OC. Lafleur left when Kyle left. Sark and Manuel was fired and DK and DQ became the new coordinators. All that is change after change after change and it definitely had an effect on the team. I still think they get it together as the season progresses. Today was not going to be an easy game but it was a winnable game. 

    They don't play against us much either but they had our defense on their heels all game. 

    I think you're being hyperbolic asserting that some of us are expecting the team to go 16-0. Im more concerned at how badly we are beating ourselves more than the other team is. The philly game shouldn't have been that close but we allowed them to make it a game and our defense, because of miscommunication, almost blew it last week. Minnesota blew us away because of lack of edge discipline all game. While other teams with lesser talent overachieve against us. If Falcons aren't beating themselves with the same mistakes through out the game and the opponent wins, I can live with that. When you know all they have us a quick short passing game (as vel scored correctly) with their tight end being their main receiver and a very good run game, but still come out getting gashed over losing your assignment repeatedly or Quinn putting the wrong matchups like Ishmael in coverage, something is wrong. That's why I questioned the quality of practices. There is no way colts should have only had to punt once or twice and brissett looking like black manning out there. 

    I haven't lost faith in the team yet. While ive lost some faith in Quinn today, I still believe he gets this unit humming eventually. I will always be worried about the offense. No matter what coordinator we acquire (Shanahan not included) that side is usually underperforming. That's why I don't expect much from Matt and the offense. We have so many weapons but get so little out of them. I couldn't believe Luke stocker had more targets and receptions than Ridley. Yet we couldn't stop a hobbled Ty Hilton and a tight end the whole game getting passes from a back up qb. The good take from this is hoping that this be the game that had finally helped Matt get the cobb webs out. He looked possessed in the 2nd half. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, TheFatboi said:

    Your gonna get confused against teams you don’t play much or no much about. It’s not like the colts could stop us. We ran up and down the field on them. The hard count got the line 3 times. That’s not coaching that’s players. You’re on the road. That has an effect. You’re gonna get looks that don’t show on tape from a team you rarely play. All that and they still only lost 24-27 on the road to a good team. Are we supposed to go 16-0? I would love to but it’s just not possible. You have a defense that’s been tweaked so there’s gonna be issues there. You have a new coordinator so there’s gonna be issues there. You have a new OL so there’s gonna be issues there. We don’t have the privilege of being cohesive like the patriots where Brady has played in one system his entire career and BB has been the only HC he’s had. There’s gonna be some brain farts and hiccups. I hate it and I get frustrated like any of you but I also understand football is a chess match and not just line up and play. There had to be some cohesion for a team to be more consistent. Only thing I can say is give them time. This is Quinn’s 5th season and there’s been some kind of turnover each year except for 2015 and 16 and that resulted in a SB appearance. Since then Smith was fired and Manuel became DC. KS left and became the 49ers HC and Sark became OC. Lafleur left when Kyle left. Sark and Manuel was fired and DK and DQ became the new coordinators. All that is change after change after change and it definitely had an effect on the team. I still think they get it together as the season progresses. Today was not going to be an easy game but it was a winnable game. 

    They don't play against us much either but they had our defense on their heels all game. 

    I think you're being hyperbolic asserting that some of us are expecting the team to go 16-0. Im more concerned at how badly we are beating ourselves more than the other team is. The philly game shouldn't have been that close but we allowed them to make it a game and our defense, because of miscommunication, almost blew it last week. Minnesota blew us away because of lack of edge discipline all game. While other teams with lesser talent overachieve against us. If Falcons aren't beating themselves with the same mistakes through out the game and the opponent wins, I can live with that. When you know all they have us a quick short passing game (as vel scored correctly) with their tight end being their main receiver and a very good run game, but still come out getting gashed over losing your assignment repeatedly or Quinn putting the wrong matchups like Ishmael in coverage, something is wrong. That's why I questioned the quality of practices. There is no way colts should have only had to punt once or twice and brissett looking like black manning out there. 

    I haven't lost faith in the team yet. While ive lost some faith in Quinn today, I still believe he gets this unit humming eventually. I will always be worried about the offense. No matter what coordinator we acquire (Shanahan not included) that side is usually underperforming. That's why I don't expect much from Matt and the offense. We have so many weapons but get so little out of them. I couldn't believe Luke stocker had more targets and receptions than Ridley. Yet we couldn't stop a hobbled Ty Hilton and a tight end the whole game getting passes from a back up qb. The good take from this is hoping that this be the game that had finally helped Matt get the cobb webs out. He looked possessed in the 2nd half. 

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  4. 18 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

    How was he out coached? This is on the players more than any coach. A coach can’t stop Matt from throwing a pick in the red zone. Even with all the other issues that’s probably the game winner for us because the colts converted that to a score. All the penalties. That’s players. And it’s not like the colts are a bad team. They were in the playoffs last year. We lost 24-27. Matt, the leader of our team, has thrown an int in scoring position in all 3 games this year. That one turnover is the difference. I do think quinn should’ve gone man to man sooner but I don’t believe he was out coached. The players made an abundant amount of mistakes. 16 penalties to the colts 4. 

    Something isn't translating from these practices fatboi. The tackling issues and losing assignments. The quality of practices are probably the problem. That falls on the coaching staff. I can understand if they were killing us with trick plays or exotic stuff but they weren't. They were looking confused on many possessions. That's excluding the penalties. 

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  5. Hey @vel, if it isn't too much to ask for (pwetty pwease pwease), can you include the main plays you will use for offense and defense against said teams especially if you feel they can be had in certain looks, alignments, etc..? 

    Like would it be better to play 5-2, 3-4,4-4 bear front or over/ under (I'm making stuff up at this point) since they will be leaning on the run heavily and the short passing game? 

    On offense do we focus mainly on running from spread formations when they are in thre cover 2 (if that's their main look) or do we line up in the I formation and pound the rock down their throats? 


  6. On 9/18/2019 at 9:52 AM, PokerSteve said:

    Vel's Scouting The Next Opponent articles have instantly become the best read on the board each week. I find myself looking to see if he's posted it yet before even checking my email every morning.

    Superb writing, totally dead on with what's happening with the Falcons and then a thorough breakdown of what to expect from the other team ~ explained so the average-to-dumb fan like me can understand it. The people who own this place should pay him for it. Probably starting to generate traffic to the site.

    I wholeheartedly agree. I think if vel, gazoo, peytonmanningforehead, and tdwii ever get into writing articles, they can easily make money. I know I will certainly buy. 

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  7. 6 hours ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said:

    At one point, I was really down about the Agholor drop that would've been a touchdown because "We only won due to luck." But then I remembered -- we left plenty of points on the table too. Calvin Ridley in double coverage was _this_ close to being a TD. And that's only one example.

    Heck of a win, especially when we threw 3 interceptions. We just need to get some things cleaned up, and we can be dominant.

    That was an amazing throw by Matt. I was initially against him making that throw into double coverage going deep but was frozen in awe how well placed the ball was for Calvin to be able to get his hands on it. That catch would have been a 9 out of 10 on difficulty scale if Calvin would have reeled it in. 

    While I like Matt going deep, even I thought that was too risky. I liked that he tried to stay aggressive. Hope he comes to terms with when he should go deep during film review this week. Please make those throws if our receivers are in single coverage Matt!


  8. 31 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

    He pointed out the New England rule for Matty Ice. In the endzone, he said throw it high in the back and low in the front. I like that rule.

    Simms said Free is over, he's done. And he's right. 

    Where was this filmed? In a local rec center?

    I totally agree. He also emphasized driving the ball not throwing it up there like a lob which annoys me about that part of his game. Dirk needs to help grow Ryan's confidence in taking those shots with his receivers in the end zones for those jump balls and back shoulder throws. 

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  9. 35 minutes ago, FalconAge said:

    If we can't beat a Colts squad starting a QB who got zero first-team reps this offseason, we might as well call the season and take a nice weekly Sunday afternoon drive until New Year's.

    I think the defense will definitely do their part. It's the offense in worried about. I will not be surprised if we lose this. It won't be because of the defense.  If the offense can even play average, we will win. 


  10. I don't see this as a permanent good bye. If we're experiencing injuries weeks later, I'm pretty sure the team has him on speed dial. Heck no one expected him to ever make it inside the falcon facility after getting released few years ago.  Injuries happen.

    I wanted to see how his play would have elevated with Quinn finally putting his prints on the defensive linemen. Beasley and takk look much improved after an offseason with Quinn. 


  11. 2 hours ago, JDaveG said:

    No doubt.  If Dirk ran his offense the way he likes to run it, it's a lot like Mike Martz's offense.  Both ways work for sure.

    It's also a lot like what Peyton Manning always ran before he went to Denver and Kubiak came along.

    I loved watching Martz offense with kurt, isaac Bruce, Tory holt az-hakim and Marshall Faulk. It was a beauty but I also remembered kurt getting clobbered often because the routes took a minute to execute. 

    Now that I think about it, I would say Matt has a slightly stronger arm than kurt but kurt loved airing it out so his guys can make thre play for him and demoralize defenses. 

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  12. 4 hours ago, JDaveG said:

    Think of the ones that we didn't hit.  We had 3 receivers in open space yesterday, IIRC, Hardy, Julio and Ridley.  All three were near misses.  Any one of those would have scored if we'd hit them.

    The reality is the offense isn't clicking.  Give it some time.  

    While you do, watch this and remember this was not a good football team:

     

    Thanks for the video to use as reference. I hope Dirk gets Matt confident enough to try those back shoulder throws in the end zone like I saw in the highlights from Fitzpatrick and Winston.  Also I don't mind good interceptions jdaveg. Interceptions are never good overall but if it's to a Julio sanu or Ridley going deep like yesterday, please take the shot. Even though Matt didn't connect with hardy and Julio in some of those attempts, I like that he took them. Just don't under throw it to the extent your receivers can't bail you out. I hope to see more of them from Matt as the season continues. 

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  13. 3 hours ago, vel said:

    I was told all week this was a soft and mentally weak team...

    You can check my posts in your weekly pre game scout thread. I called it too that the defense would show up. Just didn't trust the offense. I have the same confidence in Quinn defense as I did with Shanahan even when they have a bad game. These two are excellent at their respective sides of the ball and they have a long enough track record to back it up. I even saw glimpses of it in week 1 despite the loss.

     


  14. 9 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

    That’s right but they coached together early on and are good friends. Different base system but similar offensive philosophy. 

    The influence goes the other way too — a lot of Reid’s vertical concepts are influence by Koetter by my observation. 

    Really? Then why are his vertical concepts more creative than Dirk's? I tend to see tyreke hill and their other weapons get open with space often despite defenses knowing to key in on them. I haven't seen those kind of free running space for our guys since Shanahan left. 

    7 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

    I should say — there is commonality there. I don’t know that either of them pulls from the other’s playbook. They definitely share the same views on how to attack a defense though. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. 

    I wish Dirk would pull from his playbook. At least Sean mcvay wasn't afraid to admit it last year. :D

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  15. 8 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

    That screen (and all the others) is proof this is Koetter’s offense, not Shanahan’s. The core of the offense is in place, but Kyle doesn’t call that play there. 

    Not saying he wouldn’t have called something else that would work, but that play was 100% Andy Reid’s influence on Koetter’s offensive philosophy — when they blitz you, kill them with the screen game. Koetter has always done it and it worked to perfection yesterday. 

    Did Dirk coordinate under Andy Reid at some point? Doesn't Andy Reid run a west coast offense and Dirk's is Coryell? 


  16. Just now, Mid-Nite-Toker said:

    The play Philly picked up the first down after VBjr sack, was head scratching. I'm not sure if Neal made a mistake, bad call (DQ), or good play by Wentz.

    Were we in a cover 4? I don't know how thr receiver got that open on a 4th and 14. I had that here we go again face, only the Falcons can this happen to. Lol

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  17. 5 hours ago, falconidae said:

    Very excited about the defense. The offense will sort itself out, then this team will be scary good.

    I hope and pray for that to happen but I'm not holding my breath. I think we need to start activating one of the bigger backs especially Ollison. He would have made a difference falling forward for those extra tough yards that ito and Freeman just don't have the power to pick up. 


  18. 6 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

    Couple of odd calls DQ made tonight, but the D passes the eye test. They look fast... And I do mean fast. And now they’re playing sound to go with it, Tackling was crisp, the defensive line got after it. The vision is starting to come alive.

    I actually expected us to make that stop on that last drive... :lol: at least until that 43 yard pass on 4th down.

    Can you list them? I wanna learn too. Don't keep all the good stuff to yourself man. Share that ish.


  19. Can the x's and o's guys tell us if it's an oline problem? There were several times, when Freeman was running up the middle, that I thought that Ollison could have picked up an additional 3-4 yards if he had been the game. 

    Thre goal line run that ito got stood up on also had me thinking Ollisin would have probably either gotten a touchdown or made it to the 1. I also think the play action would have been more effective in the goal line if Ollison was present as well. The linebackers would have crashed the line so hard because he packs power.

    I don't think Freeman has lost it. I just question whether he fits mularkey blocking scheme as effectively as the one cut scheme we had before.