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  1. 17 hours ago, FalconAge said:

    I guess I favor on the job training.

    All of the things Kazee needs work on can be coached up/gained through experience.

    The things Allen does poorly are physical limitations that can't have improved after an Achilles tear.

    I went back and saw an article thst ranked Allen the 23rd best free safety in 2017, with his lack of recovery speed being the main knock. Love the guy, but he's not irreplaceable like Deion or Julio.

    Teach your budding playmaker the rules of his new position and let his ability do the rest.

    Great post. I agree Ricardo is the safe option for now but Kazee or somebody else faster will leap us to top 3 status eventually.  People forget that Rico struggled his first year in Quinn's defense also. He didn't become the Rico we know overnight. Last year was kazee first year playing the position full time. Yet despite his mistakes, he brought play making potential to the defense. 

    Kazee has already stated he prefers corner but I don't see what will stop him from making the jump if he gets a second year crack at the position. I also feel even though Ricardo is solid, it definitely is upgradeable. 

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  2. 12 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said:

    I think in those situations he will either get stronger, have help from Mack, or he will pull where he shines and dominates.

    I remembered Harvey Dahl wasn't as big also but he opened plenty of holes for Micheal Turner during Ryan's rookie year. Were we running inside zone that year as well or was it man blocking scheme that mularkey installed? 


  3. Epic thread Yo_Lover. I have a question about Lindstrom and the inside zone scheme in general.  Doesn't inside zone scheme require some amount of power to push the pocket to open holes inside for the run game?  If so, doesn't his lack of power become a problem when we try to pick up those short yards? 

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  4. 6 minutes ago, vitaman said:

     

    Thanks man. I saw he weighed much less than Jamon and Carpenter. Because of our lack of size in the middle in years past, all teams had to do was bull rush or lightweight athletic guards in to Matt Ryan's lap.

    That was why I started to wonder if,  at that size, he will be Alex mack's eventual replacement plan.  But if there is overwhelming confidence by you guys that his size won't be a problem, it gets me even more excited than I already am. I know he will be very solid in the run game. Was just worried about him holding up against bull rushes in pass protection. 


  5. 1 minute ago, Stryka said:

    Do you know how big Lindstrom is? Kazee and Wilcox are both guys who started and were good players in the NFL. 

    Let me guess....you think Lindstrom is 295 lbs.....He's 330

    Kazee lead league in INTs. 

    Trufant is still a good CB. Oliver can be one and guys we drafted are potential sleepers. 

    I had no idea. Can you provide a link? Most scouting reports have him listed at 309.


  6. 4 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

    @Falconsin2012 is right. This was a SB roster over the last 3 years. Sark isn’t part of the roster. But even then WITH sark we were in the second round of the playoffs in 2017 and probably back in the playoffs last year had we not sustained all those major defensive injuries. 

    Do you like the corners we drafted? Are you content with our backup safeties? Do you think Lindstrom's size will cause him to have similar problems to Wes against huge defensive tackles with good bulk rush in pass protection? 

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  7. 45 minutes ago, Knight of God said:

    I had no doubts about the offense. My worry was the defense. I love what we did. For the first time in years, I actually love what I see in the secondary 

    Does that mean you like both corners? What's your take on both of them? I saw that you are a big fan of Sheffield. I know nothing about him and won't pretend as if I know what I'm looking at when I see his highlights. What do you think his main strength will be in this scheme since the scouting reports state he has low ball instincts? Is that true or is it lack of experience at the position? :D

     

    Sorry for all the questions

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  8. 6 minutes ago, Statick said:

    Very impressed with Ollison. He's bigger than what I realized. 

    He's a one-cut and go runner, just like Coleman is.

    With above average speed. What a find. Maybe they are planning to actually run the ball. Im interested to see what run game plans Dirk and mularkey can put together. 

    I wonder if they will use a set up similar to Seattle in which one calls the pass plays and the other calls the run plays. 

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  9. 8 minutes ago, k-train said:

    He lost the starting job heading into last year & only got it back because both Levitre & Fusco were placed on IR. On top of that, he's in the final year of his contract & based on what he's shown thus far, it's unlikely they'd feel the need to keep him around after this season anyhow. Cutting him saves $2M w/ only $33k in dead money, so he's almost certainly the most expendable OL on the team.

    Totally forgot about that. I wonder how many offensive linemen we will carry this season. I can't imagine them cutting both fusco and wes to immediately toss Lindstrom in to the mix. I know he is tagged as a day 1 starter prospect but we don't want to find ourselves in a position similar to the defense last season hoping for rookies to step up in case of injuries as the first line of depth.  Now if he clearly outperforms fusco in camp I hope they still keep both. 

    I just want both rookie linemen to have a chance to develop first before we have to rely on them. 


  10. 11 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said:

    I don't retract my disagreement with how we've spent our Draft and FA cumulatively. However, the picks themselves are something I think we may well look back on as really solidifying this line, potentially for the next decade.

    First off, some background. RAS stands for Relative Athletic Score. It's a metric created by Kent Platte, and it compares things like size, speed, explosion, and agility to previous prospects. It's remarkably effective at projecting future success for draft picks, especially on the OL. Of the 25 pro bowl tackles selected in the first round that have been measured by this metric, 21 have over a 8.00 RAS. Looking over all the metrics, low scores are consistently excellent at predicting bad players, and high scores are consistently excellent at predicting good players.

    The same logic seems to apply to Falcons drafts. Since 2008, we have made a total of 13 OL picks under Dimitroff. These are their RAS scores, already adjusted to account for the increase in athleticism of prospects coming out.

    Adjusted RAS Scores

    Sam Baker: 4.32
    Garrett Reynolds: 1.35
    Mike Johnson: 1.91
    Joe Hawley: 6.71
    Andrew Jackson: 6.34
    Peter Konz: N/A (scores not calculated, didn't do anything but bench, which went poorly - a bad sign in and of itself)
    Lamar Holmes: 5.01
    Jake Matthews: 9.50
    Jake Rodgers: 6.93
    Wes Schweitzer: 7.38
    Sean Harlow: 5.96
    Chris Lindstrom: 9.84
    Kaleb McGary: 9.83

    As you can see, I've already bolded the ones who were over that 8.0 score criteria. Pretty impressive, right? I'd be hard pressed to spend an early pick on a guy who didn't fit this criteria after looking up the details.

    https://relativeathleticscores.com/2017/01/17/ot-relative-athletic-scores-ras-table/
    https://relativeathleticscores.com/2017/01/17/og-relative-athletic-scores-ras-table/

    Look at the ones there that are first round picks. It's almost like there isn't a shot at them being busts. It's incredible, really. If all holds true, our line should look immensely improved this year.

    Still iffy on the defense...but, eh. Here's hoping.

    Excellent post man. Would you happen to have the scores for James Carpenter and Jamon? Thanks!


  11. 8 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

    I agree. I think all four of em, Oliver and a couple Olinemen will be the cream of this draft and have good careers though. My guy is Devin White but I must admit I like as beatin backers. Regardless of need. I believe he could make the biggest year one impact on our defense and go on to be a beast.

    Do you see Devin as Campbell eventual replacement? I think Foye is making that leap this year. 

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  12. 8 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

    I will shout from rooftops that the additions of Tyeler Davison and Rashede Hageman don't mean anything and won't stop us from drafting a Defensive Tackle in Round#1 - if there is one available at #14 that we like - OR - one that we value within reach of what we are willing to pay in a trade-up.

    I would absolutely say though that the addition of Tyeler Davison does mean we WON"T take TWO defensive tackles in this draft.   I don't see that happening at all.

    Lol its funny you say that. I view the signings of Davison and Rashede as contingency plans if the plan at tackle doesn't go their way. If the office thinks both are better than the backup plans by a considerable margin, I don't see why they should be hesitant to draft them. 

    I also see both guys being athletic enough to play multiple positions including defensive end against run heavy teams that also incorporate wild cat like the ravens last year. Do you think we get our ish pushed in that easily if we had Lawrence and Wilkins with Grady and Senat on the field at the same time?  Im tired of settling for average when better is possible. 


  13. 3 hours ago, Since1990 said:

    A few of us follow a dude on Twitter that does extensive algorithms and rates each prospect!! It's impressive and I'm really interested to see how we draft and where each player graded out. His name is Kent Lee Platte and his Twitter tag is @MathBomb

    Here's his work on Davis

    And yes! I am a firm believer that the combine does not trump game tape, but it's still interesting.

     

    Now that he has changed positions, I wonder how that would affect his ras score. 


  14. 6 hours ago, Bunchy Carter said:

    I received a few notifications in a row from the mobile app regarding the schedule. I tried to access the content and it kept force closing.

    I uninstalled to reinstall and it's gone from the Google play store?

    Went to the Falcons homepage, searched for the mobile app and the direct Google play link says "item not found."

     

    http://atlfal.co.nz/2h7Hs1Q 

    Was the app discontinued?

    There has been nothing wrong with mine. It's currently working just fine. 


  15. 10 minutes ago, Knight of God said:

    @ShadyRef

    watch very closely and compare the two. First without the level of competition in mind, then with

    By the way, I do like his play. I don’t like his character.

     

    Isee what you're saying. He does get washed out on combo blocks. By character, do you mean you don't see enough 'dog' in him?  Do you think he playing out of position contributed to negative marks when evaluating him? I can't imagine DQ playing him at nose in the NFL. 

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  16. 4 minutes ago, MSalmon said:

    Kinda. I almost see a bit of Michael Bennett in him—I know that’s high praises that hasn’t been earned, but he has that dog in him, he’s long, deceptive explosiveness and like Bennett did early in his career he’s developed his body. He’s starting to look like Bennett with that build and length. That’s pro-level nutrition and training at work. The AAF, while short lived had great staffs. 

    I take it that you see DQ trying him out for some inside rushes like he did with shelby and adrian Clayborn? 


  17. 6 minutes ago, Knight of God said:

    Watch this but pay the most attention to the level of talent

     

    I don't have eyes for x's and o's but that guys hand usage and body control is amazing. He also seems to have very good feel for where he is at on the field. He doesn't look lost in trenches. Was he a one gapper in bama? 

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  18. Just now, MSalmon said:

    I didn’t catch that! That’s interesting. And encouraging as I do like him a lot

    Is it me or does he remind me if adrian Clayborn? I wonder if he is being groomed to be his eventual replacement. 


  19. 1 minute ago, Knight of God said:

    He needs to get stronger. His main good, dude is vicious. 

    Since we haven't brought him in for a workout, why do I have a feeling Falcons wil pick differently if he is available? :lol:

     

    Then again who knows? They surprised us last year with Ridley. 

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  20. 9 minutes ago, Knight of God said:

    Q Will

    I didn't watch too much bama football but does he compare favorably to Grady in that he can play but tackle positions or is he strictly a 3 tech? What are the major holes in his game you've observed that he needs to work on and is he more of a scheme fit than Ed Oliver? 

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