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  1. Article Below: The question is - If Derek Carr, who is very good but not great - never even had a 4,000 yard season yet gets $25mm/yr - what in tarnation is Matt Ryan gonna get? Matt is scheduled to make $18.1mm this year-2017 (salary + option bonus) and $21.65mm in 2018. Everyone loves to say what a "cap wizard" Dimitroff is - well when they re-sign/extend Matt, re-sign Devonta and with possibly Poe, Jake, Beasley in the not-to-distant future - time to break out the magic wand! Sources: Raiders, QB Derek Carr close to massive deal Adam SchefterESPN Senior Writer The Oakland Raiders and Derek Carr are close to finalizing a deal expected to pay the star quarterback about $25 million per year, league sources told ESPN. The contract is expected to be done soon, well before the training camp deadline Carr had given the Raiders, according to sources. The sides still are finalizing language, but the deal could be announced as early as the end of this week. When it is done, Carr instantly will become one of the game's highest-paid players, if not the highest, in terms of annual average salary. Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck currently tops the list at $24.6 million; Carr is right in that neighborhood, sources say. Carson Palmer's average annual salary in Arizona is $24.35 million, Drew Brees' is $24.25 million for New Orleans and Kirk Cousins' is $23.9 million. Cousins and the Washington Redskins are trying to get a long-term deal done by the July 17 franchise deadline. Carr, 26, passed for 3,937 yards and 28 touchdowns with just six interceptions last season, helping lead the Raiders to their first postseason appearance since 2002. He suffered a broken fibula in Week 16 and missed Oakland's playoff loss to the Houston Texans, but he has been a full participant in the team's offseason activities. Carr, speaking last week at the Raiders' minicamp, said he was happy to be "just playing ball again." "The hardest part was taking the first rep, because the last rep you remember was like, 'Oh snap, I broke this thing,'" Carr said. "But as soon as the ball was snapped, it was a blessing. It kind of all went away."
  2. 2014 NFL Draft do-over: Derek Carr goes to Texans first overall By Elliot Harrison NFL.com Analyst Published: June 22, 2017 at 01:35 p.m. Editor's note: This draft do-over was first published on April 24, a few days before the 2017 NFL Draft. With the news Thursday that Derek Carr is now the NFL's highest-paid player after signing an extension with the Raiders, we thought it would be a good time to take another look at how the 2014 draft might play out in a redo. Keep in mind: This do-over does not take into account the results of the 2017 NFL Draft. Mired in the throes of a 3-12-1 campaign as a rookie head coach with the New York Giants, Bill Parcells occasionally leaned on an unlikely mentor ... Dallas Cowboys head coach Tom Landry. A friend of the Mara family (Parcells' employers), Landry hit the Young Tuna with a few gifts of football wisdom. One that stuck with Parcells was the idea of a three-year plan in terms of how to evaluate young players. If a player hadn't shown much improvement by his third season, it was time to move on. Or, in business school vernacular, Don't throw good money after bad. Parcells would work off this axiom, while surely passing it on to his coaching descendants. You know, guys like Bill Belichick. Three years is still the standard, though first-round picks are sure to get the benefit of the full 36 months. Well, the Class of 2014 has had that time frame to show what it can do, which makes this a perfect time to re-evaluate the pecking order from three years ago. If we were to "redo" the 2014 NFL Draft, how would teams change their picks? Which Day 2 picks would climb into Day 1? What would the Texans do in that top spot? The conjecture could go on for hours. Or 32 "new" picks, which is precisely what we did below, starting with ... 1) Texans: Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State Original pick: Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB, South Carolina. Carr was drafted: Round 2, No. 36 overall by the Raiders. The Texans get their long-awaited quarterback without having to plunge into the waters of Osweiler, raise any barns with the Amish rifle or stomach any Ryan Mallett sideline pouting. Derek Carr posted a passer rating nearly 25 points higher than Osweiler's last season. 2) Rams: Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh Original pick: Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn. Donald was drafted: Round 1, No. 13 overall by the Rams. Carr going first overall is not indicative of him being the best player in the draft. Rather, it represents the value of the quarterback position. Aaron Donald, arguably the top player in the 2014 class, goes second to the team that originally drafted him, but not in this spot. 3) Jaguars: Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo Original pick: Blake Bortles, QB, UCF. Mack was drafted: Round 1, No. 5 overall by the Raiders. The Jaguars finally obtain something almost as rare in Jacksonville as a win ... a pass rusher. Khalil Mack went fifth overall in 2014, but you could make the case he should have gone first. In case you missed "NFL Honors" night in February, Mack won Defensive Player of the Year. 4) Bills: Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU Original pick: Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson. Beckham was drafted: Round 1, No. 12 overall by the Giants. The Bills took Sammy Watkins in the cleanup spot three years ago. He's been fantastic when healthy, but that's not enough to best Odell Beckham Jr., who became a top-flght receiver right out of the gate. 5) Raiders: Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State Original pick: Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo. Freeman was drafted: Round 4, No. 103 overall by the Falcons. Is fifth a smidge high for a running back? Sure. But oh would the Raiders be better with a player like Freeman, who is perhaps just a shade under David Johnson, Le'Veon Bell and Ezekiel Elliott. Oakland still needs an RB. Las Vegas, too. Editor's note: This do-over was written before the Raiders signed Marshawn Lynch. 6) Falcons: Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB, South Carolina Original pick: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M. Clowney was drafted: Round 1, No. 1 overall by the Texans. The real No. 1 overal pick makes his way to Atlanta, where the Falcons desperately needed a pass rusher in 2014 and '15, and could've used pressure off the edge in Super Bowl LI. Vic Beasley was spectacular last year, but why not have him AND Clowney? 7) Buccaneers: Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M Original pick: Evans. Not changing this pick -- no way. Mike Evans has been a blessing for the Bucs since arriving seventh overall out of College Station. The guy has snagged 238 passes in three seasons as one of the top possession targets in pro football. 8) Browns: C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama Original pick: Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State. Mosley was drafted: Round 1, No. 17 overall by the Ravens. Giving the Browns both a position of need as well as a player who's as talented as anyone coming up in this redo of the 2014 draft. He's already made two Pro Bowls in just three seasons, and taking him away from a division opponent (the Ravens) makes this more fun. 9) Vikings: Anthony Barr, OLB, Vikings Original pick: Barr. Like the Bucs, the Vikings are keeping their original pick. And why not? Anthony Barr has been an absolute stud for Mike Zimmer's defense. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better outside 'backer in a 4-3 system than this former UCLA standout. 10) Lions: Zack Martin, G, Notre Dame Original pick: Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina. Martin was drafted: Round 1, No. 16 overall by the Cowboys. Let's put it this way: Neither Donald nor Mack are better players than Zack Martin. So don't misunderstand his going 10th here to the Lions. In fact, guards almost never go top-10. Drafting Martin would've meant the Lions would not have had to spend big money on free agent T.J. Lang. 11) Titans: Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU Original pick: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan. Landry was drafted: Round 2, No. 63 overall by the Dolphins. Landry would have given the Titans' offense, and specifically Marcus Mariota, that perfect mid-range target. Landry could turn Mariota's accurate short-range throws into first downs, while being a better version of Kendall Wright. 12) Giants: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan Original pick: Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU Lewan was drafted: Round 1, No. 11 overall by the Titans. If you've seen Ereck Flowers play, or maybe just the right side of the Giants' offensive line, you know Taylor Lewan would be a heck of an addition. He could play either LT or RT for Big Blue, bringing some much-needed nasty to the offensive side of the ball. Eli Manning doesn't do nasty. 13) Rams: Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State Original pick: Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh. Cooks was drafted: Round 1, No. 20 overall by the Saints. Giving the Rams what's ailed them since Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt were putting up Tecmo Super Bowl numbers ... a wide receiver. 14) Bears: Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State Original pick: Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech. Shazier was drafted: Round 1, No. 15 overall by the Steelers. Why not another fly-around-the-field-and-make-plays linebacker who wears 50 for the Bears? Ryan Shazier might be a different style player than the legendary Mike Singletary, but pairing him with Jerrell Freeman and Danny Trevathan would make that Chicago defense special (more than the offense, that's for **** sure). 15) Steelers: Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson Original pick: Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State. Watkins was drafted: Round 1, No. 4 overall by the Bills. Watkins might have an injury history, but he has been dynamic when right. With Mosley and Shazier off the board, the Steelers add to their arsenal so that they don't have to take Martavis Bryant later in this draft. 16) Cowboys: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama Original pick: Zack Martin, G, Notre Dame. Clinton-Dix was drafted: Round 1, No. 21 overall by the Packers. The Cowboys haven't owned a pair of solid safeties since they had Darren Woodson and Roy Williams back in 2003. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Barry Church together might've made a difference in last year's Divisional Round loss to the Packers. Of course, Church is now gone, so Dallas could really use Clinton-Dix. 17) Ravens: Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State Original pick: C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama. Robinson was drafted: Round 2, No. 61 overall by the Jaguars. Despite signing Mike Wallace, and drafting Breshad Perriman two years ago, the Ravens still need a wide receiver. Robinson would give Joe Flacco a pass catcher who can run the whole route tree. Flacco would provide Robinson with more catchable balls and fewer red-zone interceptions than the QB he currently plays with in Jacksonville. You see? It's a win-win. 18) Jets: Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame Original pick: Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville. Tuitt was drafted: Round 2, No. 46 overall by the Steelers. Really wanted to give the Jets a quarterback, but there was no way in this do-over that Carr would fall this far. Blake Bortles' young career doesn't merit a pick this high. Stephon Tuitt, however, has been solid, and would mitigate the 2016 free agency departure of Damon "Snacks" Harrison. 19) Dolphins: Trai Turner, G, LSU Original pick: Ja'Wuan James, OT, Tennessee. Turner was drafted: Round 3, No. 92 overall by the Panthers. The Dolphins have done much to improve their offensive line since 2014, but drafting Trai Turner would have filled the talent void they currently have at guard. Turner is a two-time Pro Bowler, who can play tackle and also keep guys off Ryan Tannehill's arse. 20) Saints: Jason Verrett, CB, TCU Original pick: Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State. Verrett was drafted: Round 1, No. 25 by the Chargers. Quite simply the most talented corner in the draft. Jason Verrett has been brilliant, with his only drawback being missed time due to injury. Heading into 2017, with Drew Brees still playing at a high level, and the defense getting (slightly) better, how great would it be to have an in-his-prime Verrett manning one of the CB spots? Especially considering the quality of the other quarterbacks in the NFC South. 21) Packers: Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State Original pick: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama. Bucannon was drafted: Round 1, No. 27 overall by the Cardinals. Bucannon's a quasi-linebacker who has done much for Bruce Arians' defense. You gotta think Dom Capers would put him to good use in Green Bay. Capers already has capitalized on the Swiss Army Knife abilities of Charles Woodson, Clay Matthews and Micah Hyde. Add Bucannon to that cheese plate. 22) Browns: Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois Original pick: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M. Garoppolo was drafted: Round 2, No. 62 overall by the Patriots. If you thought for a second that Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't going to the Browns in our 2014 draft redo, then you're probably also one of those people who thought J.J. Abrams wasn't going to kill off Han Solo in that "Star Wars" movie. Some things are too obvious. Well, kind of like Cleveland's demand for a quarterback every year since 1999. 23) Chiefs: Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt Original pick: Dee Ford, DE, Auburn. Matthews was drafted: Round 2, No. 42 overall by the Eagles. Remember every sportscasters' favorite stat two years ago? The one about Chiefs wide receivers not scoring a single touchdown all year? Well, Matthews would've changed that dynamic. And while he is not perfect (SEE: drops, many), every quality player from this point on has some flaw. 24) Bengals: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M Original pick: Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State. Matthews was drafted: Round 1, No. 6 overall by the Falcons. So the Bengals could use offensive line help badly right now. But this selection is as much about Jake Matthews' upside as it is the huge holes Cincy has up front. Matthews has been a viable tackle up to this point and certainly would help Andy Dalton's cause. 25) Chargers: Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State Original pick: Jason Verrett, CB, TCU. Adams was drafted: Round 2, No. 53 overall by the Packers. Philip Rivers has been trying to carry the Chargers to the playoffs the last couple years despite having to throw footballs to CFL rejects, never-beens and 50-year-old tight ends. If only Keenan Allen could stay healthy. That's why Davante Adams, who has really improved, becomes a Charger in this Draft 2.0. Hopefully his hands come with him. 26) Eagles: Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State Original pick: Marcus Smith, LB, Louisville. Jernigan was drafted: Round 2, No. 48 overall by the Ravens. Call this a practical move for the Eagles -- drafting Timmy Jernigan in 2014 to fill out the interior of the defensive line and avoid having to trade for a DT later ... namely, Timmy Jernigan. The Ravens-Eagles deal certainly strengthens Jim Schwartz's defensive line now, but Jernigan could've also bolstered the oft-exhausted D-line during the Chip Kelly era. 27) Cardinals: Dee Ford, DE, Auburn Original pick: Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State. Ford was drafted: Round 1, No. 23 overall by the Chiefs. General Manager Steve Keim has been swiping right on pass rushers for quite some time now, from drafting Markus Golden (Round 2, 2015 draft), to signing Dwight Freeney (October 2015), to trading for Chandler Jones (March 2016). In Ford, the Cardinals receive a slow-to-develop edge rusher who finally blossomed in 2016. 28) Panthers: Trent Murphy, DE/OLB, Stanford Original pick: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State. Murphy was drafted: Round 2, No. 47 overall by the Redskins. Different pick here -- as in, maybe not the name you were expecting. But Murphy was sneaky good in 2016, and would make life a little harder for NFC South foe Matt Ryan. Julio Jones doesn't catch 300 yards' worth of balls if the Carolina secondary doesn't have to hold the fort forever. 29) Patriots: Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina Original pick: Dominique Easley, DT, Florida. Ebron was drafted: Round 1, No. 10 overall by the Lions. You think Bill Belichick would find something to do with another large, talented tight end? Eric Ebron has not always warmed Lions fans' hearts, but he took major steps forward last season by catching 61 passes for 711 yards in just 13 games. 30) 49ers: Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State Original pick: Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois. Roby was drafted: Round 1, No. 31 overall by the Broncos. New GM John Lynch might want a quarterback, but I'm thinking that a former safety who would knock your block off wouldn't mind employing more building blocks on defense. Roby would instantly make one side of that 49ers defense more formidable. 31) Broncos: Gabe Jackson, G, Mississippi State Original pick: Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State. Jackson was drafted: Round 3, No. 81 overall by the Raiders. Jackson has been dynamite enough in his young career to merit going higher in this do-over. However, it's hard to see more than a couple of guards going in the first round. His addition would upgrade the Broncos' offensive line, while simultaneously hurting the division-rival Raiders' unit. It also would allow John Elway to save the truckload of cash he delivered to Ronald Leary this offseason. 32) Seahawks: Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia Original pick (traded to Vikings): Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville. Moses was drafted: Round 3, No. 66 overall by the Redskins. Everyone knows the Seahawks could use some workmen at the bookends, which is why Morgan Moses is the pick over Carlos Hyde and Preston Brown. What you might not remember is that this pick was originally traded to the Vikings so that Minnesota could draft Teddy Bridgewater. In this 2014 draft makeover, we lend Russell Wilson a bit of backside cover instead.
  3. yeah, I am sure the Spurs will find the one stiff on their team - #tiagosplitter - and trade him to the Hawks
  4. was looking forward to coming here to read all of your takes about Hawks new draft picks: PF - John Collins, Wake Forest SG - Tyler Dorsey, Oregon PF/C - Alpha Kaba, France instead of analysis I get...
  5. yeah, if Hageman could really improve and build on what he did at the end of last year and playoffs, that draft would look very, very good.
  6. look at Yards Per Attempt(YPA). Matt had the highest in the NFL and record-setting numbers in that dept. The higher your YPA, the more exposed your QB is to sacks. In other words, Matt was not throwing short dump-offs as much as the league average and previous years. That is going to lead to more sacks. Having said that, the OL does need to do better - Chris Chester was particularly poor in pass protection - hopefully this will get better with whomever wins the RG job. Jake needs to do better as well.
  7. Like Jake, the book is still being written on what Clowney IS or ISN'T. Everyone on TATF crapped on Clowney his first two years as he mostly was M.I.A. with injuries - then last year he exploded and had a very productive year even though he failed to record double-digit sacks - he was very impactful overall and was the stud on the Houston D w/ JJ Watt out. Three years in....assuming both Jake and Clowney get their 3rd year options picked up and likely extensions in the offseason - hope both stay healthy - and I hope most of all Jake reaches the elite level we all hoped when he was drafted.
  8. You are the only person that I have heard that describes Matthews as worthy of Pro-Bowl consideration. Who else have you heard saying this? any offensive linemen talking heads? I believe Jake is above average - probably top 1/3 of the league - pro bowl? I am hopeful he will get there one day and take his game to another level - he ain't there yet.
  9. yeah, I liked Taylor Lewan more and he just made pro-bowl and top 100.
  10. you could make an easy argument they got the two best players out of the entire draft.
  11. No I am not.....reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said it right above on where Jake is.
  12. ....also, after Clowney's first two years in NFL - mostly hurt - everyone was piling on me for liking Clowney - then he played out of his mind this year now that he was healthy and probably a lot more mature as well. He will be a beast if he can stay healthy - still would not have been a good idea to trade up for him though and at the time, I was open to the possibility - i liked Mack as well. happy w/ Jake though - he does need to get better - I am somewhat disappointed in him - thought he would be a pro-bowler and that has not materialized just yet.
  13. What is funny about this list is everyone joked about how there is NO WAY the Texans would draft Derek Carr after David Carr's career in Houston - and, in fairness, I understand the thinking a little - but wow did that blow-up in their face!!!! LMAO - Texans screwed the pooch on the Carr brothers twice! In fairness to David Carr, he never had a chance with that atrocious Offensive Line during his time in Houston.
  14. I would be happy w/ this but the obvious question would be - who is your starting LT if you did not draft Jake. No doubt Jake Matthews has been solid, if unspectacular. In this scenario we would not even have Free and that would have been a crying shame. Anyway, it is June and no football - something to read and talk about. nice to see these when you see multiple Falcons that should have gone in the first 32 - 2014(Free/Jake) and 2016(Debo/Neal).
  15. hope so......Is the NFL popular w/ the millenials? seems like with less and less parents letting their kids play football due to concussion issues, that eventually that might catch-up w/ NFL popularity - to me, that is the biggest threat to the sport.
  16. I dunno about that - TV numbers for football went down last year - was it an aberration due to Presidential election? backlash over Kaepernick? or start of a longer term trend? too soon to say yet but the CBA and salary cap increase is tied to TV numbers and revenue.
  17. Well I don't really care what anyone makes but the salary cap is a zero sum game. The most likely scenario is Matt signs a market deal with the understanding that the deal would be reworked as needed to create space to retain other crucial talent on team in upcoming years.
  18. KD definitely makes stupid money on his shoe deals so I concede that point. Wade, Bosh & Brady? I am sure they make more ad money than Matt but none of those three are Madison Avenue darlings. Yes also I don't know of many Matt Ryan commercials either - by the time Matt leaves the game, he will have made $350mm+ in salary/bonus alone. If he took $4mm/yr less, he might leave $24mm gross on table on next contract over six years which equals $12mm net after taxes.
  19. How did you come to this determination, Birdland? What exactly is a "cap friendly" top of the market QB contract?
  20. I don't really expect Matt to take less and like someone said, Matt's agent thrives on top of the market deals - of course most agents/players want this. However there is precedent - Tom Brady takes less, one of the best players in NBA - Kevin Durant - says he will take less to keep Golden State Warriors together. The old Miami Heat superteam with Lebron, Wade & Bosh all took a little less. It should be noted that all the players I listed above had made $100mm+ in their careers before taking a little less for playing on super teams. Same for Brady. For perspective, what we are talking about here would be Matt maybe taking $25mm/yr when he could make maybe $28-29mm/yr in open mkt. - it ain't nothing but it is not life changing monies for Matt when he has made over $150mm already.
  21. If Carr averages $25mm, then Matty Ice has to get at least $28mm/yr average if he seeks a market deal, right? Maybe he will pull a Brady - lord knows Matt has gotten paid top dollar on every contract since 2008 (before rookie wage scale).
  22. Falcons still have room to maneuver now - but we have so many players on the horizon - I think a big chunk of our middle class starters might get whacked in a year or two.
  23. "Coleman & Adams" - is this a new brand of Carolina BBQ sauce? #yummy
  24. I'll start.... Whatever happened to the TWO talented cartoonists that were TATF posters - "Supes" and "Gritz" ? Have not seen either here in ages.