Jump to content

David Deas

Forum Members
  • Posts

    110
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by David Deas

  1. It would be different if they were monsters in the running game and just couldn't pass protect. At that point you start wondering if the QB is moving to the wrong spot, failing to step up, etc.

    But they can't block in ANY phase of the game. So it's not like the passing game goes off the rails because of the QB, but the running game is solid. I suppose we could claim it's the RBs' fault that the running game is poor, but anyone with eyes can see that the problem is the line doesn't move defensive players off the ball. The line gets no push. They haven't for AT LEAST 3 years now. It's past time to fix that. When we do, if Ryan is still struggling, we can talk about the QB. Until then, we should acknowledge Ryan's play has been sub-par this season. But we should put our focus on the thing that's been a problem for 3 years instead of pretending Matt Ryan suddenly became a sub-par QB in the season where our already poor OL was blown up (2 starters lost to retirement/FA and 1 to injury), and our starting receivers AND starting RB have been either hurt or out for the season.

    Pass blocking and run blocking are definitely not the same skill set. You should not compare the two in the manner that you have. It's possible to be bad at pass protection but good at running, or bad at run blocking but good at pass blocking. Plenty of pass happy teams in the NFL have offensive lines that fit the latter description.

    You know, about half the fans of NFL teams across the league are convinced that their offensive line is inadequate or one of the worst in football. Even Broncos fans are doom and gloom about their offensive line, pointing to Ryan Claddy's injury. They already have their fingers ready and pointed in case they lose in the playoffs.

  2. Maybe we should consider firing GM and Coach in Green Bay because of the downturn in their fortunes. Everyone would say no.

    This is exactly why Dimitroff and Smith are here to stay and are two of the best, the famous saying should be "it's the injuries stupid".

    Green Bay lost Aaron Rodgers. I don't think any impartial outside observer would agree.

    At the same time, it's no excuse for how bad they are playing.

  3. I get what you're saying, but it is painfully obvious that our line is COMPLETE trash. From RT to LT, our OL has terrible technique. They get NO push in the run game, and the interior of our line is pourous to say the least. They get shoved around like rag dolls. So regardless of what you say about armchair GMs, anybody can see that our line is a joke. I'm not making excuses for our QB. Ryan has made several bad decisions this year, but no matter how you look at it, our line is a sorry excuse of supposed blockers. They are the weak link of the team.

    I've looked at it. I agree that our line isn't the best. But every team has or will inevitably have its weak links. The question is whether or not the team has the coaches or the players to disguise or compensate for those weaknesses.

    We don't, it seems. Speaking about Matt Ryan specifically, what I'm hearing is his skill set cannot compensate for a below average offensive line. He does not have the physical mobility, pocket presence, or savvy reading defenses required.

    What I'm constantly hearing from people is that we need a good line to protect Ryan, a good running game to balance our offense, and a good defense to go along with our already good passing attack before Matt Ryan can be expected to show how good he truly is. And for several reasons, I just don't think that's reasonable or makes much sense.

  4. This is all hypothetical with no real evidence to support your claims. I mean give this dude the Eagles OL and we would be looking much better. They can't even protect him for 2 seconds. TWO SECONDS! Foles would be getting gangbanged behind our OL just like Ryan is.

    Pretty funny comment.

    Eagles fans have been cursing their allegedly horrible offensive line since McNabb's days. Even before that. Then they finally realized it was McNabb. Then they started back up blaming their, again, allegedly terrible offensive line when Vick took over for McNabb until they finally realized it was Vick.

    Blaming the offensive line is pretty commonplace amongst fans all across the NFL who want to apologize for the way their favorite QB is playing, but the truth about sacks and things of that nature is that it's the QB's fault about 90% of the time. Improper protection calls, late getting rid of the ball, poor pocket presence, poor pocket awareness, bad footwork, etc etc lead to QB pressure more often than anything else.

    Problem is, analyzing those sorts of factors is much harder to do for armchair QB's. Blaming the line wholesale is simple and seems more obvious.

  5. Explain like I'm five. Pardon the cliche, but how did we go from being ten yards (and a late hit on the QB) from a Superbowl appearance, to the disastrous season we're experiencing?

    Is it just bad luck, injuries? Coaching? TD? I love Julio, but did we give up too much for this shiny bauble?

    Last year, Nolan was anointed as a defensive coaching god. This year, he seems to have disappeared.

    Genuinely looking to be educated and informed.

    The Falcons have over the past few seasons been unusually healthy for an NFL team. But we always lacked depth and sophisitcation. When injuries hit us, that weakness was finally exposed.

  6. Too bad we are going to miss out on some good QBs coming into the draft after signing him to that huge deal.

    I'm confused. You blame the offensive line in one thread, but in this thread you're calling for a new QB? And neither is a pressing need over our abysmal defense.

  7. My view on MR has changed somewhat as well. First, I've always believed that Ryan was culpable in p/o losses...he doesn't have the "it" factor to be mentioned among the elites and not the guts of a Flacco/Roethlisberger/Eli who have been questioned/doubted.

    What changed for me is that I always thought that Ryan was a solid "next week QB." In other words if he was guaranteed another game(regular season) he could shake off a bad performance and come back strong...not so much this year. Ryan looks unsure, shell-shocked, and brittle.

    TD is to blame for a lot of our problems, but the security blanket has been pulled of Ryan and he looks as naked as a baby bird. Building a team around Ryan's arm and not the run game is back-firing on us.

    Ryan is at least better than Flacco. Always has been ever since their rookie seasons.

  8. For real. "No better and no worse". LoL. Man. Tamp as D-Line owned them today. And not by just a little.

    I've been listening to this stuff about how terrible our offensive line is for years. Our previous QB, Michael Vick, used to be the beneficiary of the same sorts of excuses from the fans. Just like now, everybody then liked to blame the offensive line instead of the playcalling and ultimately the QB. After he left, it was Eagles fans complaining about having a bad offensive line.

  9. You can have all the offensive weapons you want but if you don't have an O-Line to protect you it doesn't matter. In addition it would of helped to have a coaching staff that didn't go into conservative mode and let SF back into the game that ended up with us watching the super bowl instead of playing in it.

    The coaching staff is a critisicm I can hear. They are good, but not great. What would a bunch of Jacksonville Jaguar transplants know about winning big games anyhow?

    But being critical of the offensive line is pretty ridiculous. Its the same crap that David Carr's supporters use to do in Texas; blame *everything* on the offensive line. Our line is no better or worse than the average line in the NFL. Good enough to win with, but not great.

  10. Coming into this year I thought he was the surefire #5 QB in the league. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, and Ryan.

    Pretty ridiculous. Made me laugh, though.

    I don't know how anybody could have ever thought Matt Ryan to be in the same class as Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. Anybody without Falcons colored sunglasses on realizes that Matt Ryan has been underperforming at the QB position considering the amount of talent has has had to work with around him over the years. Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Tony Gonzalez is arguably more offensive firepower than the combination of Randy Moss, Daunte Stallworth and Wes Welker.

  11. Mike Smith is just ok.......Deion Sanders was a great corner....but you can have one who runs a 4.5 and has average ball skills and maybe very good cover skills but he's not Dieon Sanders....the same way Matt Ryan isn't John Elway or Andrew Luck talent wise. Mike Smith is what He is. He's not gonna coach his team up a notch like great coaches might....If Mike Smith coached the 1970's Steelers, they might have won one Super Bowl...2 if He was lucky.

    That's disrespectful. Chuck Noll was an important innovator in NFL history. Mike Smith never came up with anything. He never could have built that team or that scheme.

  12. Lol 5 years body of work, 6 good games this year, guys hits a 2 game slide against tough defenses with a turnstile O line and makeshift wr corps and the panic starts

    Have the last five years really been that impressive? Relative to the Mike Vick era, sure. But most non-Falcons fans around the league have remained unconvinced of us over those past five years despite whatever we have done. There is a good reason for that.

    There are QB's in the league that would go straight 16-0 with the talent we have had on offense over the past five seasons. And do it without a running game.

  13. Head coach is responsible for the issues that can't be fixed. He doesn't know how to fix it. What happens when someone doesn't know how to do their job?

    Nothing. If you're the Steelers head coach then under such circumstances you actually get a contract extension.

    The Falcons are just what happens when you give the Jaguars coaching staff a ton if talent to work with.

  14. And Matt Ryan has never been impressive maneuverability wise or elusivity wise in the pocket. That has never at any point in his career been a strength of his. He has always frustratingly felt ghosts that weren't necessarily there. That isn't something that was conditioned into him by a horrid offensive line season after season. He was like that from day one.

  15. Your Oline looked good to me yesterday. Panthers rarely touched Ryan. Until the very end of the game,

    Agreed. But even still.

    For people who don't know anything about football, the offensive line is among the first thing they start blaming for offensive woes. You hear that from fans all across the league, New England fans included. Even though it was pretty much the same group of players up front, New England's line went from great in 2004 to bad in 2005-2006, to great again in the first half of 2007 to poor in the second half all according to their fan base at the time.

    But for people who understand the sport, you know that 90 percent of pressures and sacks are on the QB. If your QB makes the correct pre snap reads, calls the right protections, gets into the right plays, moves efficiently in the pocket and gets rid of the ball on time, pretty much all pressure and all sacks will disappear from the stat line. It will seem like your offensive line is all pro caliber.

    That's why QB's like Tom Brady will always seem to certain fans to play behind great offensive lines. And that's also why fans of QB's like Mike Vick will always complain about their guy having to play behind bad offensive lines. The single biggest thing you can do to help offensive line play isn't changing the linemen. It's switching from David Carr to Peyton Manning.

    Neither Peyton Manning or Tom Brady have ever played behind offensive lines with more than about average to below average caliber players. But they make average talent work not only at receiver, but at the line as well.

  16. None of you understand particulars very well.

    Teams like the Cowboys and the Texans run a Bum Philips 3-4, which is still a 1 gap system. Because it is a 1 gap system, it is very easy to switch from a base 4-3 to a base 3-4 because not much really changes in terms of gap assignments or personnel requirements. This is the most popular base 3-4 scheme in the NFL.

    Teams like the Patriots run a Fairbanks 3-4, which is a two gap system up front, requiring a completely different front 7 personel than a modern Tampa 2 style 4-3 or a Bum Philips 3-4. The Fairbanks 3-4 is the true 3-4, and the Patriots are the only ones to have run it in recent years with success.

    The Steelers run a hybrid 3-4, which features an anchoring nose tackle who is responsible for 2 gaps while having 2 DT's on either side who are responsible for 1 gap. The Steelers are the only team to run this base style of 3-4.

    For the most part, teams customize their schemes independent of base alignment. Pointing at the Steelers' scheme as a goal, while offering up the Texans' completely different scheme as proof that an overnight transformation into a number 1 defense in the NFL is possible for the Falcons merely by changing alignments is absolutely ridiculous.

×
×
  • Create New...