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  1. You don't give up on a young pass-rusher for a wide receiver. You just don't. And yeah, the receivers suck, but they've sucked for a while. The offense could be really, really bad next year. We'll see.
  2. Roddy has carried that passing offense, though. To me, consistency and dependability is judged from every play, not just every play where the ball is thrown to you. Roddy impacts games more consistently, is more dependably open.
  3. No. It discounts things like consistency and dependability. It's like claiming that the pitcher who threw the single greatest pitch is the best pitcher. There's much more to it than that.
  4. 2008-20012, not 2009-2013. Pulled from pro-football-reference, calculated in Excel.
  5. I didn't include the playoffs because I'm doing this while I try to pack (I'm moving to New Jersey.) But you've got to see why this argument is so baffling for me: we've got a full half decade, basically the prime of both players' careers, where White just squashed Colston in the two most basic receiving stats (I will concede that Colston is much better in the red zone, but with the caveat that Michael Turner likely vultured a few touchdowns from Roddy). If you're looking at this from the outside, you go with Ockham's Razor and pick the simplest solution. And there's a really simple answer her
  6. I get that they're in different situations. I get that they've got different offenses. But way back when I hopped in on this debate, I was asked what White did to separate himself, so I showed that in their primes, White was simply on another level. And when it's such a big difference, can you at least see why I have trouble putting Colston on the same level as White? Also, White was the clear-cut guy in that sample, bar none. In 2007 White and Colston actually ended up with the same number of yards, so you can open up the sample to another year and still not find a year where Colston beat out
  7. I honestly don't see how you wrapped the entire argument into one play. Over the volume of the season, White's going to produce more.
  8. I didn't include the postseason for simplicity's sake. Here are the season averages for each player over the five year range where I contend that White emerged as the best receiver in the South. Colston: 72.8 catches, 1030.8 yards. White: 96 catches, 1314.2 yards. That's not close. No matter how you split it, it's not close. Colston is 75% of what Roddy is through that stretch, and it's not a small sample size. That's why I think it's pretty clear that Roddy is the best receiver in the division.
  9. Remind me of when I criticized Colston for the system that he's in?
  10. Let's ignore everything else that it might be and concede that point. Colston just came along and picked up the game faster than Roddy. So what? Roddy passed him. And stayed there.
  11. And do you think that the quality of quarterbacks that they started with may have had something to do with it? Look, we can go round and round on this, but one guy sustained a level that the other guy never got to. Roddy's production just overshadows Colston's, and I'd prefer a football player that produced over one who had some better splits. You are apparently on the other side.
  12. Obviously they won't be exact, but I still think they're useful as a guideline. Everyone else should be subject to the same errors.
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