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    pzummo reacted to PokerSteve in Kyle Pitts said   
    Agree. Pitts will no doubt find NFL LB'ers and DB's just a little tougher to run by than he's used to. But as you said, you have to love his belief he can step in Day One and be The Man.
    Your list of all the WR's and RB's we have points out how blessed this offense is with talent even with Julio gone. All these guys are good and they're all hungry to get their share of those 130+ Julio targets. Losing Julio just means other people get those catches, not that we somehow lose those catches because he's gone.
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    pzummo reacted to thanat0s in Kyle Pitts said   
    Honestly, more than Julio/Sanu, etc., what made Kyle’s offense so incredible here was his ability to bring unpredictability to it. Matt had TDs to 13 different guys, and as he said back then, he throws it to the open guy, whoever that is.
    If they field a solid OL and run game, I expect big things from our receiving group, with or without money bags. 
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    pzummo reacted to Run 'n' Shoot in Kyle Pitts said   
    You are correct. There isn't one player that can replace Julio but I think we have the pieces that can add up to the same threat. Ridley or Pitts can command a double team, depending on the situation and still provide an advantage. Hopefully, Smith does as expected and is able to take advantage of those opportunities. 
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    pzummo reacted to ATLSlobberKnockers in Kyle Pitts said   
    don't forget Darby. I think he's going to surprise. I see him developing into more than just a deep threat
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    pzummo got a reaction from PokerSteve in Kyle Pitts said   
    Love the confidence.  I don't buy it though, and hope we don't try it.  Julio will have to be replaced by the aggregate, which in my opinion can make us less predictable and possibly more dangerous as an offense.  Take Julio's 130+ targets per year and redistribute them between Ridley, Gage, Pitts, Hurst, Davis, Patterson, Sharpe, and Zaccheaus.  Test other team's depth by distributing the ball across more of our weapons.  
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    pzummo got a reaction from thanat0s in Kyle Pitts said   
    Love the confidence.  I don't buy it though, and hope we don't try it.  Julio will have to be replaced by the aggregate, which in my opinion can make us less predictable and possibly more dangerous as an offense.  Take Julio's 130+ targets per year and redistribute them between Ridley, Gage, Pitts, Hurst, Davis, Patterson, Sharpe, and Zaccheaus.  Test other team's depth by distributing the ball across more of our weapons.  
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    pzummo got a reaction from FA91 in Kyle Pitts said   
    Love the confidence.  I don't buy it though, and hope we don't try it.  Julio will have to be replaced by the aggregate, which in my opinion can make us less predictable and possibly more dangerous as an offense.  Take Julio's 130+ targets per year and redistribute them between Ridley, Gage, Pitts, Hurst, Davis, Patterson, Sharpe, and Zaccheaus.  Test other team's depth by distributing the ball across more of our weapons.  
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    pzummo got a reaction from Stevo in Kyle Pitts said   
    Love the confidence.  I don't buy it though, and hope we don't try it.  Julio will have to be replaced by the aggregate, which in my opinion can make us less predictable and possibly more dangerous as an offense.  Take Julio's 130+ targets per year and redistribute them between Ridley, Gage, Pitts, Hurst, Davis, Patterson, Sharpe, and Zaccheaus.  Test other team's depth by distributing the ball across more of our weapons.  
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    pzummo got a reaction from Run 'n' Shoot in Kyle Pitts said   
    Love the confidence.  I don't buy it though, and hope we don't try it.  Julio will have to be replaced by the aggregate, which in my opinion can make us less predictable and possibly more dangerous as an offense.  Take Julio's 130+ targets per year and redistribute them between Ridley, Gage, Pitts, Hurst, Davis, Patterson, Sharpe, and Zaccheaus.  Test other team's depth by distributing the ball across more of our weapons.  
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    pzummo got a reaction from PokerSteve in The Featured Julio Thread   
    When a player signs a 5 year deal, they got money up front in the form of a signing bonus to mitigate the risk of an injury or being cut 1/2/3/4 years into that contract.  The player is taking up front money to mitigate their future risks.  Players can and some have taken less up front money with less years on their contract in order to be a Free Agent during their prime years.  If a player wants a bigger signing bonus and more guaranteed money, the team's investment risk is mitigated by the player agreeing to play under contract for more years.
    The team takes on the financial risk because they have to pay the guaranteed money regardless of the player's future production.  The reward for the team is that the player is worth more than the team's investment.  The team and the player need to both have risk and reward for a contract to make sense.  The player's risk of being cut is why they get guarantees and money up front.  What mitigates the team's risk of the player not wanting to fulfill their contract after they already took the signing bonus?  
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    pzummo got a reaction from AlabamaFalconFan in The Featured Julio Thread   
    If we are talking about a 5th round RB and the team is running his wheels off 3 years into his rookie deal, I might side with the RB holding out for a new contract or being disgruntled.  It's not his fault he hasn't gotten paid.  It's because nobody believed in him enough to draft him sooner.  I can respect that perspective and wanting to get paid fair market after he proved himself when everybody else underestimated him. 
    After rookie deals, no player is being held hostage, especially not one that took a $25m signing bonus and $66m in guarantees.  He willingly volunteered to be in the position he's in.  Players might be worth more in later years of a deal, but they took guaranteed money that protected them from a career ending injury that would've made them worth a helluva lot less. 
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    pzummo got a reaction from PokerSteve in The Featured Julio Thread   
    I don't want to lose Julio.  My favorite player on the Falcons.  This is all sad news.
    That being said, the Sanu situation was a LOT different.  He was only owed $3.8m that next season, which is great for a #2 WR.  The Pats gave a second because they were getting a #2 WR with a below market contract value.  Julio's cap hit this season is $23m in the year following Covid impacting revenues and tight cap numbers for the majority of teams.  Julio's contract is actually pretty favorable over the next couple of seasons for what he brings, but it just sucks this year due to how it's structured. 
    I don't want less than a 1st for him either, but we really don't have any leverage when we want somebody to pick up his $23m cap hit after he had a down year and the cap didn't increase as much as projected a few years back.  There are not enough teams with tons of cap room creating a market where we can dictate a 1st.  Him coming out and saying what he did is not going to help us move him either.
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    pzummo got a reaction from Herr Doktor in The Featured Julio Thread   
    If we are talking about a 5th round RB and the team is running his wheels off 3 years into his rookie deal, I might side with the RB holding out for a new contract or being disgruntled.  It's not his fault he hasn't gotten paid.  It's because nobody believed in him enough to draft him sooner.  I can respect that perspective and wanting to get paid fair market after he proved himself when everybody else underestimated him. 
    After rookie deals, no player is being held hostage, especially not one that took a $25m signing bonus and $66m in guarantees.  He willingly volunteered to be in the position he's in.  Players might be worth more in later years of a deal, but they took guaranteed money that protected them from a career ending injury that would've made them worth a helluva lot less. 
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    pzummo reacted to Herr Doktor in The Featured Julio Thread   
    Very well said.
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    pzummo got a reaction from dfsutton in The Featured Julio Thread   
    When a player signs a 5 year deal, they got money up front in the form of a signing bonus to mitigate the risk of an injury or being cut 1/2/3/4 years into that contract.  The player is taking up front money to mitigate their future risks.  Players can and some have taken less up front money with less years on their contract in order to be a Free Agent during their prime years.  If a player wants a bigger signing bonus and more guaranteed money, the team's investment risk is mitigated by the player agreeing to play under contract for more years.
    The team takes on the financial risk because they have to pay the guaranteed money regardless of the player's future production.  The reward for the team is that the player is worth more than the team's investment.  The team and the player need to both have risk and reward for a contract to make sense.  The player's risk of being cut is why they get guarantees and money up front.  What mitigates the team's risk of the player not wanting to fulfill their contract after they already took the signing bonus?  
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    pzummo got a reaction from dfsutton in The Featured Julio Thread   
    I don't want to lose Julio.  My favorite player on the Falcons.  This is all sad news.
    That being said, the Sanu situation was a LOT different.  He was only owed $3.8m that next season, which is great for a #2 WR.  The Pats gave a second because they were getting a #2 WR with a below market contract value.  Julio's cap hit this season is $23m in the year following Covid impacting revenues and tight cap numbers for the majority of teams.  Julio's contract is actually pretty favorable over the next couple of seasons for what he brings, but it just sucks this year due to how it's structured. 
    I don't want less than a 1st for him either, but we really don't have any leverage when we want somebody to pick up his $23m cap hit after he had a down year and the cap didn't increase as much as projected a few years back.  There are not enough teams with tons of cap room creating a market where we can dictate a 1st.  Him coming out and saying what he did is not going to help us move him either.
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    pzummo got a reaction from Dr Long Shot in The Featured Julio Thread   
    I don't want to lose Julio.  My favorite player on the Falcons.  This is all sad news.
    That being said, the Sanu situation was a LOT different.  He was only owed $3.8m that next season, which is great for a #2 WR.  The Pats gave a second because they were getting a #2 WR with a below market contract value.  Julio's cap hit this season is $23m in the year following Covid impacting revenues and tight cap numbers for the majority of teams.  Julio's contract is actually pretty favorable over the next couple of seasons for what he brings, but it just sucks this year due to how it's structured. 
    I don't want less than a 1st for him either, but we really don't have any leverage when we want somebody to pick up his $23m cap hit after he had a down year and the cap didn't increase as much as projected a few years back.  There are not enough teams with tons of cap room creating a market where we can dictate a 1st.  Him coming out and saying what he did is not going to help us move him either.
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    pzummo got a reaction from peoriabird in The Featured Julio Thread   
    When a player signs a 5 year deal, they got money up front in the form of a signing bonus to mitigate the risk of an injury or being cut 1/2/3/4 years into that contract.  The player is taking up front money to mitigate their future risks.  Players can and some have taken less up front money with less years on their contract in order to be a Free Agent during their prime years.  If a player wants a bigger signing bonus and more guaranteed money, the team's investment risk is mitigated by the player agreeing to play under contract for more years.
    The team takes on the financial risk because they have to pay the guaranteed money regardless of the player's future production.  The reward for the team is that the player is worth more than the team's investment.  The team and the player need to both have risk and reward for a contract to make sense.  The player's risk of being cut is why they get guarantees and money up front.  What mitigates the team's risk of the player not wanting to fulfill their contract after they already took the signing bonus?  
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    pzummo got a reaction from peoriabird in The Featured Julio Thread   
    Reason #1 = We get hit with a $40m+ dead cap number if we cut him.  
    Reason #2 = We have to keep him until we find a trade partner.
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    pzummo got a reaction from Herr Doktor in The Featured Julio Thread   
    When a player signs a 5 year deal, they got money up front in the form of a signing bonus to mitigate the risk of an injury or being cut 1/2/3/4 years into that contract.  The player is taking up front money to mitigate their future risks.  Players can and some have taken less up front money with less years on their contract in order to be a Free Agent during their prime years.  If a player wants a bigger signing bonus and more guaranteed money, the team's investment risk is mitigated by the player agreeing to play under contract for more years.
    The team takes on the financial risk because they have to pay the guaranteed money regardless of the player's future production.  The reward for the team is that the player is worth more than the team's investment.  The team and the player need to both have risk and reward for a contract to make sense.  The player's risk of being cut is why they get guarantees and money up front.  What mitigates the team's risk of the player not wanting to fulfill their contract after they already took the signing bonus?  
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    pzummo got a reaction from Skin doc in The Featured Julio Thread   
    I don't want to lose Julio.  My favorite player on the Falcons.  This is all sad news.
    That being said, the Sanu situation was a LOT different.  He was only owed $3.8m that next season, which is great for a #2 WR.  The Pats gave a second because they were getting a #2 WR with a below market contract value.  Julio's cap hit this season is $23m in the year following Covid impacting revenues and tight cap numbers for the majority of teams.  Julio's contract is actually pretty favorable over the next couple of seasons for what he brings, but it just sucks this year due to how it's structured. 
    I don't want less than a 1st for him either, but we really don't have any leverage when we want somebody to pick up his $23m cap hit after he had a down year and the cap didn't increase as much as projected a few years back.  There are not enough teams with tons of cap room creating a market where we can dictate a 1st.  Him coming out and saying what he did is not going to help us move him either.
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    pzummo got a reaction from JDaveG in The Featured Julio Thread   
    Reason #1 = We get hit with a $40m+ dead cap number if we cut him.  
    Reason #2 = We have to keep him until we find a trade partner.
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    pzummo got a reaction from JDaveG in The Featured Julio Thread   
    I don't want to lose Julio.  My favorite player on the Falcons.  This is all sad news.
    That being said, the Sanu situation was a LOT different.  He was only owed $3.8m that next season, which is great for a #2 WR.  The Pats gave a second because they were getting a #2 WR with a below market contract value.  Julio's cap hit this season is $23m in the year following Covid impacting revenues and tight cap numbers for the majority of teams.  Julio's contract is actually pretty favorable over the next couple of seasons for what he brings, but it just sucks this year due to how it's structured. 
    I don't want less than a 1st for him either, but we really don't have any leverage when we want somebody to pick up his $23m cap hit after he had a down year and the cap didn't increase as much as projected a few years back.  There are not enough teams with tons of cap room creating a market where we can dictate a 1st.  Him coming out and saying what he did is not going to help us move him either.
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    pzummo got a reaction from Mid-Nite-Toker in The Featured Julio Thread   
    Reason #1 = We get hit with a $40m+ dead cap number if we cut him.  
    Reason #2 = We have to keep him until we find a trade partner.
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    pzummo got a reaction from celtiksage in Terry Fontenot - 2nd day trade - let's revisit   
    You new around her?  lol
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