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  1. I think the best thing for a team with a high draft pick, a solid QB, tight cap and lots of holes is to trade that pick for as many picks as they can. Love to see 3 QBs go in the first 3 picks and have a couple of teams panicking over the 4th QB, getting into a bidding war and giving the falcons a haul similar to what the dolphins got for 3. Would love for the Falcons to trade with the panthers so they can draft a QB, have the QB be a bust for the panthers and the falcons end up with an extra high draft pick next couple of years.
  2. Odds go down with each round, although Foles and Wilson are 3rd rounders with rings. Drafting high in the first round is not the only way to get a good QB. Draft a physical talented but raw player in the 4th, let him learn behind Ryan for a couple of years, he could end being a really good QB. Used to be SOP for teams, no reason it can't work again. It allows you to put more resources into winning immediately, and , ideally, make for a better team when the new QB comes in. Teams give up boatloads of picks to pick a QB early first because they're stupid or desperate. You really want to gi
  3. Not automatic, but way too close to 50/50 odds for even a top 5 QB. For every P. Manning, there's a Ryan Leaf. Will say that top 5 or top 10 are your best odds for a franchise QB, still, it's about 60% success. People remember Mahomes, and forget about Winston and Marriota, Will also say that using one pick to get a top 5 QB is much better than using multiple first rounders. Much rather, though, have them take a developmental guy in the mid rounds, trade out of the 4th pick for multiple picks, including, ideally, a future first rounder they can use to trade for a franchise guy if n
  4. It would also be great way to show that this team is no longer run by TD.
  5. I doubt it. He couldn't throw a deep ball in the playoffs. Think the shoulder surgery took a year or two off his career. Plus ,the man has made 274 million on the field, and another 75-100 in endorsements on top of that [13 mil in 2018 alone] He'll make money with whatever he does in NOLA-he's beloved down there. The endorsement money will go way down, but will still be more money than most people see in a lifetime. He'll make millions talking about football if he wants to.
  6. Maybe that improves the odds a bit, but top 10 QBs are a 50-50 proposition.
  7. Thing is everybody wanting Wilson, or Fields, or Lawrence for that matter, how do you know you're getting Peyton Manning and not Ryan Leaf? Hindsight makes the choice really obvious, but it wasn't when they were drafted. List of top 10 drafted QBs in the 2000's isn't really pretty. Odds are better for getting a great QB in the top 5 -top 10, but the odds are still 50-50 at best., the odds go down after that.
  8. Would love to have extra picks in 2022 to draft a QB with.
  9. Game in hand? They never had the lead in the second half, how is that game in hand? A QB that was 7 of 20 with a pick, no passing TDs and a QB rating of 25. Man barely generated 100 yards of offense in 3 quarters, see no evidence that Hurts would have lead them to a victory had he stayed in. If they confront Pederson with an accusation of tanking, all he has to say is Hurts was sucking up the joint [and he was] and he wanted to see if the other QB could do any better. As much as many assume that it's tanking, may just be a bad decision.
  10. I expect that Ryan will be here next year, although, I don't think it's impossible to trade him this offesason. If a team was willing to take on some of his dead money, trade becomes possible. NE has 61 mil of cap space and no QB to speak of.
  11. Ya know, the only thing I want is for the Falcons to get it right. I have no idea what HG and GM would be best for the Falcons, just get the hires right. Don't care if they trade Ryan & Julio, burn the team to the ground, start from scratch with a new QB at 3/4. Don't care if they take a QB at 4 or trade back for multiple picks. Don't care if they try one more time with Ryan- hopefully using the top 5 pick on a defensive game changer, then pick a stud RB with pick 2 or 3. Don't care, want them to get it right.
  12. My main objection is to the trade up to get him. Odds of getting a franchise QB in the first round are about 50-50, a little better in the top 10, that's still much better than every other round. If you've got the first pick, sure go for it, but trading up is just a horrible idea.
  13. If you wanted to blow the team up, NE needs a QB and has 61 mil in cap space, according to OTC. That means that they could take some of the dead money for Ryan, along with his salary. I'm sure you can pass on dead money to a new team, it's just that no one ever wants to do that. If NE absorbs 25-30 mil of the dead money along with Ryan's salary, then the trade becomes possible. I know people were scoffing at the idea of a player paying his bonus back and his new team giving that money back to him in new contract, but, why not? Ryan has about 75 of unguaranteed money left on his deal, an
  14. Can't miss prospects miss all the time. The odds of getting a franchise QB in the top 10 are better than the rest of the draft, but not by a whole lot. David Carr got sacked 70 times as a rookie, Mayfield got sacked 48 times as a rookie. Bad teams can kill a QBs career in many different ways.
  15. Pretty sure that was worst case scenario, if no games were played at all. Good bet that the owners and the players union will work out a deal where they take money from future caps and add them to the 2021 cap, keep it close to what it was for this year.
  16. Here's a list of QBs taken number 1 overall in the 2000s: Vick, Carr, Palmer, Eli Manning, J Russell, Stafford, Bradford, Newton, Luck, Winston, Goff, [Mayfield, Murray, Burrow]. Only one to win a Super Bowl was Eli, and he was a thoroughly mediocre QB who had a couple of good postseason runs. Leaving out the 3 who got drafted last 3 years, leaves 11 4 of them you wouldn't want- J Russell, Bradford, Goff, Winston. 5 got beat up so bad their careers were cut short- Vick, Carr, Palmer, Newton, Luck Stafford has never won a postseason game. Teams made some seri
  17. Not hindsight so much as looking at the reality. There have been 14 QBs drafted number 1 overall in the 2000s, only Eli has won a Super Bowl. Three have been drafted in the last 3 years, little early to judge them, but of those three, one is injured, one had a rough sophomore year, the other got sacked 48 times his rookie year. From 2000 to the present: Vick, David Carr, Palmer, Eli Manning, J Russell, Stafford, Bradford, Newton, Luck, Winston, Goff, Mayfield, Murray, Burrow. Take away the last three, 6 out the remaining 11 got so beat up they lost time/ability. That's what happens to
  18. He was. And he was so beat up from lack of an Oline that he was done in 6 years. Kinda want more out a QB drafted number 1. At least they didn't spend a ton of draft picks to move up.
  19. Even if they put Schaub in, he's not going to last long, Benkert would get his playing time.
  20. Man this sucks, this reminds of when the Falcons were in the NFC west. Honestly not sure they can win another game this year, maybe if Tampa Bay has clenched and is playing a preseason roster. Looks like, though, TB and KC will be needing wins for postseason positioning. Looks like the cap will be 175 mil next year. The owners and the players will probably come up with some money to keep everything in place- maybe borrowing from future years. I'm really hoping though, they do something like a one time exemption from cap hits to compensate for that. That would allow the falcons to cut Ry
  21. Couple more first downs in the second half of the lions game and this last game, Falcons are 4-5, TDQ is still gone, folks are feeling good about a late season push. If they can beat the Saints twice in their next 3 games [ I know, I know, but I AM a fan], they could be at 6-6 with a solid shot at the playoffs. Not giving up on that until it's mathematically impossible.
  22. Anybody offered a second round pick, Falcons would have jumped on it in a heartbeat. Think it may be a low grade version of what happened to the panthers with Cam. Cam couldn't be traded because he couldn't pass a physical, ended up being cut. Think the same thing happened here, he wasn't healthy enough to trade. Man, I wish the Falcons could draft a pass rusher.
  23. If the Falcons win 4-6 games, they can trade Ryan to move up. Love Ryan, but it's time to move on, like to see Ryan go to a team with a defense. I'm all for blowing the team up over the offseason. If they trade Ryan offseason, they avoid 23 mil of salary that becomes guaranteed after the season starts. Split the 42 mil dead money over two seasons, be a hit, but manageable. Some team will give up a lot for Ryan. Doubt the Falcons do that, the reality is Blank is running out of time for this team to win a super bowl while he's alive. Best chance of winning a Super Bowl next
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