JDaveG

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  1. 2 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

    I don't wanna crap on Mora, but he always treated Vick like a fan and deferred to him way too much, whereas you could tell Vick respected Reeves.

    Some guys you can do that.  We have had 2 disastrous QBs in Atlanta where you couldn't -- Brett Favre and Mike Vick.

    I think all QBs respond to hard coaching.  But those 2 guys needed it in the worst way.

    Jeff George did too, but he was too stupid to respond to it, so.......


  2. 2 minutes ago, SirCzah said:

    The DVD offense kept defenses stacked in the box.  Mora (or Vick?) would never capitalize.  I still believe Reeves would have eventually gotten more out of Vick by making him a QB 1st and a RB 2nd.  Mora fully embraced running Vick into the ground.

    He tried to get him to work from the pocket though -- that's the only thing here I disagree with.  By 2006 Vick was starting to throw to space and doing the things the WCO requires.  His big problem was his drops.  He always dropped to a different spot, so the o-line had no idea where he'd be to protect him, and then he made it worse by taking off randomly, often right into the rush.

    But yeah, the first year or so, they were working in all that read option stuff to encourage him to run.  I think they were doing that in part to reign him in.  "We'll get you the carries, but from the pocket, please do what we say."  He was starting to get it.  Then we fired Mora and he got indicted and the rest is history.

    If you look at his tape in Philly, that's what Mora was trying to get him to do.  And it worked.


  3. 1 hour ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

    He invoked the word “innovative” when talking about Dan Reeves’s offense and I agree. Every week it seemed like Dan was adding more wrinkles to take advantage of his skill set. 

    Designed QB sweeps, veer type stuff then passing game was really vertical stretch the field stuff. Made it simple for him. It was old school and new school at the same time.

    Good times his first year as a starter.

    I never got the criticism of Reeves as this old school, smashmouth coach. His offense was certainly innovative. And he wasn’t stuck with a system. He tried to hire Gruden as OC but the Raiders snapped him up as HC. 


  4. On 11/3/2019 at 9:14 AM, Cole World said:

    I’ll already said I would like him as the OC with Stefanski as the HC. If that happens, and he’s successful and leaves we would still have Stefanski who can continue to call the plays. 

    If Stefanski is the HC, we won't need McDaniel as the OC.  Stefanski is plenty competent to pick someone to help him gameplan.

    To me, McDaniel is the HC or we don't bother.  I'm tired of the OC carousel, and the minute someone poaches him to be OC (assuming Shanahan would even let him interview), he'll be in the HC discussion within a few years.  No thanks.  If Stefanski is the guy, he'll bring in the right guy to help with the offense, and if they leave, he'll bring in the next right guy.  He knows the system well enough he doesn't need someone to help him run it.

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  5. 3 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

    Different type WRs (one slot, one outside), but similar production:

    • Sanu - 8 seasons, 39.3 yards/game, 11.3 yards/catch, 26 TDs
    • Jenkins - 9 seasons, 34.1 yards/game, 12.5 yards/catch, 25 TDs

     

    Jenkins was bagged on because he was a first rounder, but he's exactly the kind of guy you want in that WR2 role or slot role in a WCO.

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  6. Just now, Sun Tzu 7 said:

    Sure when it comes to drafting on the OL he's been mostly miss than hit and it's too soon to tell if the double dip was worth it but no one bats 1000%  In drafting you're going to have more misses than hits.

    But he's had hits on the oline.  Matthews.  Schrader.  Levitre.  Mack.  Clabo, Dahl, & McClure were already on the roster when he got here so no credit for them.

    The dline on the other hand....  there's Grady and ?

     

    See, to me that's a huge indictment on TD, though.  Yes, the draft is hit and miss.  Yes nobody bats 1000%.

    That's why you don't trade up all the time reaching for needs.  That's why you treat draft picks as precious rather than treating them like Monopoly money you can just trade away to get Boardwalk and Park Place, all the while keeping your fingers crossed you can pay the rent until some unfortunate soul lands on one of them and has to pay up.


  7. 28 minutes ago, JOEinPHX said:

    Here's some background, and yes, it was a Blank thing, but at the urging of TD.

    The need to be 'explosive' arose following the 2010 season, and the Falcons strategy was to sign Darren Sproles in free agency.  He was their one and only big FA target.  But then fate stepped in.  That was the year of the lockout, the normal FA period was postponed and the draft occurred first.  With no assurance that they could get Sproles ahead of the draft, TD and Blank re-directed their efforts toward assuring explosiveness through the draft.  Either Julio or AJ Green became an imperative acquisition.

    So you could call the drafting of Julio a panic move, though that's probably overstating things a bit.  But it's worth noting that the entire offensive staff and the HC opposed the move.

    That makes me wonder whether bringing Koetter and Mularkey back wasn't at Blank's urging too.

    Why?  Because why bring them back if they opposed the one move that defines why this team began to lose depth and balance, UNLESS it was to give some feedback on the front office.

    It's possible Quinn brought them back because he heard the same thing through the grapevine and wanted some people who had lived through it to bear witness, but that seems more far-fetched.  It's also possible Quinn brought the back because he believes they're the right people for the job and it's all a great coincidence.  But Lord, I can't imagine why Mularkey would take the job.  So it leads me to speculate that Blank may have told him "I need some fresh eyes on this operation -- can you help?"

    I'm probably way off though.